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Which is more stable- a G9 or DSLR w/ 18-200?
Hi,.

Most of my pix are done while on a road bike at 10-25 mph, or while hiking w/ lots of wind while on exposed summits. No, a tri-pod is not an option for either of these. Stopping to change between 18-55 & 55-200 lenses on a DSLR really isn't too practical, either..

So, given these conditions, which would result in less blurred shots- a Canon G9, w a 35-210 lens, or a DSLR w/ an 18-200 lens on it?..

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Hike Bike Pix wrote:.

Hi,.

Most of my pix are done while on a road bike at 10-25 mph, or whilehiking w/ lots of wind while on exposed summits. No, a tri-pod isnot an option for either of these. Stopping to change between 18-55& 55-200 lenses on a DSLR really isn't too practical, either..

So, given these conditions, which would result in less blurred shots-a Canon G9, w a 35-210 lens, or a DSLR w/ an 18-200 lens on it?.

Sounds like you need image stabilisation / vibration reduction (whatever it's called). The G9 has it. Some DSLR lenses have it and some don't - the Nikkor 18-200 does..

Which one you can hold steadier depends on your hands and how well you can grip the camera. I would guess that the slightly larger / heavier camera would be easier to hold steady..

How about a small monopod?.

Best wishesMike..

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That would work for most people, & maybe even some hiking situations. But definitely not on a bike ride where the pace is generally 25mph...

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Hike Bike Pix wrote:.

That would work for most people, & maybe even some hiking situations.But definitely not on a bike ride where the pace is generally 25mph..

Do you mean you will be taking pics while biking?Surely you have to stop to take a picture...Mike..

Comment #3

That would work for most people, & maybe even some hiking situations.But definitely not on a bike ride where the pace is generally 25mph..

Do you mean you will be taking pics while biking?Surely you have to stop to take a picture....

Whoah! Racing down a bike trail at 25mph!? You could probably glue a round piece of styrofoam to a wooden box, write "STABELIZORED" on the side with a Sharpie, and the pics would turn out just as good...

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Edited for brevity- meant to reply to another post...

Comment #5

Not all motorists take time to read traffic laws, but bikes have full access to the roads..

Don't like it? Given the price of gas, you'd better get used to us...

Comment #6

I really want to see pics taken at that speed. I can barely get shots from a walking horse when I've got IS and a fast lens. Am I just a super-shaky hand?David..

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Mike703 wrote:.

Hike Bike Pix wrote:.

That would work for most people, & maybe even some hiking situations.But definitely not on a bike ride where the pace is generally 25mph..

Do you mean you will be taking pics while biking?Surely you have to stop to take a picture...Mike.

Some riders actually ARE able to snap pix of partners while on the road. I'm definitely not at that point yet!.

And when we do stop, it's not the kinds of stops where you can take your time setting things up. If you stop for too long, you cramp up. When you're 20-50 miles away from getting back to your car, in technical terms, that is not a good thing..

As far as hiking goes, you also don't really want to take a lot of time if you're on top of an exposed summit at -10 degrees w/ wind, especially if you have to take off your gloves...

Comment #8

I think you need a short exposure time to stop the "action". To facilitate this, you need:.

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Get a small/cheap dSLR w/ low pixel count (6-8 MP) and mount something like a Sigma 24-60 f2.8 ($380) or Nikkor/Canon 17-55 f2.8 ($1200). Select S-mode and set the exposure time to 0.002 or 0.001 second. Let the camera select the ISO and aperture..

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Comment #9

Some members of my bike club, one of whom is a newspaper photographer, take photos on bike rides and always use a digicam. I've tended not to carry a DSLR with me due to the weight..

In bright sunlight using a moderate ISO setting and a high shutter speed, you can shoot while moving if you're comfortable enough with both bike and camera. Otherwise you stop and take the pix, then move on. I'd prefer a lighter, smaller camera and one that would be more resistant to problems with vibration than a DSLR.Bob..

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Which would you rather carry on a bike at those speeds the big heavy DSLR with the long lens or the light compact, and which would you rather lose if you fell down?..

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Chuxter wrote:.

Get a small/cheap dSLR w/ low pixel count (6-8 MP) and mountsomething like a Sigma 24-60 f2.8 ($380).

I just bought this lens in Nikon mount, it is now going for $179 at Cameta though Amazon....

Http://www.amazon.com/...p;n=502394&s=photo&qid=1203046135&sr=8-2.

Anyone looking for an f2.8 mid range zoom, this is a steal....

Great build quality, compact size for an f2.8, real nice color and contrast and sharp lens....

Just thought I would mention the deal.....er steal....

Bob.

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Gnarayan wrote:.

Which would you rather carry on a bike at those speeds the big heavyDSLR with the long lens or the light compact, and which would yourather lose if you fell down?.

Extremely relevant, cuz there are 2 types of cyclists- those who have fallen, and those who will. Prof. Pain teaches his lessons very well, but he's always coming up w/ new lessons to replace the ones that have already been heeded...

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Robert Cohen wrote:.

Some members of my bike club, one of whom is a newspaperphotographer, take photos on bike rides and always use a digicam.I've tended not to carry a DSLR with me due to the weight..

In bright sunlight using a moderate ISO setting and a high shutterspeed, you can shoot while moving if you're comfortable enough withboth bike and camera. Otherwise you stop and take the pix, then moveon. I'd prefer a lighter, smaller camera and one that would be moreresistant to problems with vibration than a DSLR.Bob.

Bob,.

Thanx, I think you understand the environment that I'd like to shoot in, and thank you for the advice..

But wouldn't the greater weight of the DSLR aid in stability? And also the grip, since the G9 practically has none? I couldn't believe how small the G9 was when I looked at it today..

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Comment #14

No way I would want to shoot a dslr while I was riding, nor would I want to haul it around with a heavy lens. The G9 is small and I think would fit easily into your jersey pocket (just put it into a zip lock to keep dry). With a small P&S you also have live view using the LCD (some of the newer dslrs also have this) so you won't have to look through the view finder to compose your photo. Good luck. P.S. The falling factor is also important as someone already pointed out, been there, done that, got the scars.Paulhttp://www.pbase.com/pajarrett/galleries..

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Pajarrett wrote:.

With a small P&S you also have live viewusing the LCD (some of the newer dslrs also have this) so you won'thave to look through the view finder to compose your photo..

That's an excellent point. For the sort of shooting described I think live view would be essential - then you can at least keep half on eye an where you are going.Best wishesMike..

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Wouldn't the greater weight of the DSLR aid in stability? And also the grip, since the G9 practically has none? I couldn't believe how small the G9 was when I looked at it today..

Sure, the additional mass of an SLR will help with some stability, but there are trade-offs. (There are always trade-offs!).

First, if you're talking about shooting while the bike is moving, on most roads you're going to have a significant amount of camera motion from vibration. A VR or IS system will probably help with that, though such systems have their limits. I'm not sure how much additional stability you'd get just from the mass of a larger camera..

Second, digicams are pretty solid and have few moving parts. SLRs have large open spaces inside and have many moving parts which have to be in careful alignment. I worry about the jarring that an SLR would be subjected to if it's being carried on a bike..

Third, cyclists are often concerned about minimizing weight. An SLR might seem pretty heavy during a long ride..

So, IMHO you need to consider the various trade-offs. The potentially better image quality of an SLR might make it's weight and the possible damage to the camera due to vibration worthwhile to you. Personally, I'd rather settle for the lesser image quality of a digicam (which can still be pretty darned good these days)..

I think it's a question of using the appropriate tool. I have several DSLRs and love their quality and their flexibility, but there are times I'd want to use a digicam instead.Bob..

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Http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/canong9_samples2/ (6th photo).

Here is a 210 mm photo taken at 1/40 of a second and the G9 could probably take the same photo at a lower shutter speed than that if you're steady. You can certainly not use a shutter speed that low with a Dslr at that field of view. This is because the focal length of the G9 photo is not 210 mm. It's 44 mm. 410 mm is the 35 mm equivalent field of view..

I can go as low as 1/40 at 400 mm handheld with my 1:2.5 sensor megazoom so probably could do 1/30 at 200 mm with the G9. With my 35 mm film SLR the lowest shutter speeds I could use would be about 1/350 and 1/150 respectively, probably the same with my dslr but I haven't actually tested this yet. That's using the viewfinder properly and really concentrating. I do worse if not thinking about it but definitely have an advantage for handheld shutter speed with the megazoom...

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