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Hello..

I'd need some help from you users about this picture. Donno what am I doing wrong lately, but many images came out like this, flat/dull colours, like the picture is washed out..

Here is exif info:.

-Canon 40D-17-55 IS-f2.8-17mm-1/800s-ISO100-AV mode-EV +0.3.

Ok, I know that EV is probbably too high, it should be atleast 0. My mistake. But donno. image looks so strange. There is no color on the sky, on the right side, bottom part of sky is almost white, edge of forrest and sky is strange.. etc etc..



Thanks people.

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Comments (17)

Are you using a lens hood? Because it looks like you are not and have flare. Flare is the biggest killer of color. Will give a flat dull look to photo. Here are examples of without a hood and with..

Without hood.

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With hood.

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Steve.

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Comment #1

Uh, didn't have that in mind..

Yes, I shoot without hood. And from what you said, unfortunatly. So by your opinion, lens hood is main problem?.

Couldn't be there any other reason? (just want to exclude all negative things)..

Comment #2

Maybe a polarizing or UV/Haze filter on the lens could help...

Comment #3

IMHO, you're correct - EV shouldn't be + as it will let more light in and wash out your photo. Also, did you shoot this late morning/mid-day? Light is normally harsh then - I try to avoid shooting in harsh lights. Polarizer might help a bit...

Comment #4

Add Circular Polarizing filter to your setup. You will get more vivid sky and better defined detail during sunny day..

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Remove UF filter if you are using it, it doesn't do much on DSLRs.http://www.stan-pustylnik.smugmug.com..

Comment #5

- a lens hood and a circular polarising filter will make a big difference. (A UV filter won't do anything as DSLR sensors are not affected by UV). Bleached out looking pics like this are common in bright sunlight. A circular polarising filter will give much richer, more saturated colours to the sky and foliage in sunny conditions:.

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Best wishesMike..

Comment #6

I see I did quite a few mistakes .

First EV should be atleast 0, not +, than lens hood which I constantly forgot to use, should be on and after all, polarization filter. I don't use it although I have it. Especially at this time of day should be good help to avoid washed colours. Will take an experiment in couple of days in midday sun, to see advantages of each part of equipment..

Btw, I don't use UV filter, just a protector from Hoya. And polarizer in my pocket .

Thanks for help guys. Let's hope I will imporve my latest photos...

Comment #7

Najti wrote:.

I see I did quite a few mistakes .

First EV should be atleast 0, not +,.

Yup.

Than lens hood which Iconstantly forgot to use, should be on and after all,.

All the time, unless you are shooting closeup.

Polarizationfilter. I don't use it although I have it..

Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends.

Especially at this time ofday should be good help to avoid washed colours. Will take anexperiment in couple of days in midday sun, to see advantages of eachpart of equipment..

If you have bad light (mid-day) and bad, hazy atmosphere, nothing will save the image. Even if hood and polarizer will help, they are not miracle makers..

Btw, I don't use UV filter, just a protector from Hoya..

Auch! You know, it's quite frustrating. Don't put the thing in front of the lens UNLES you need it. That is frost, spray, maybe abrasive sand..

There is a school of thought which says "I want to protect my investment". It's not an investment, is an imaging device. With elaborately designed optics inside. If one wants to lessen the image quality they paid for, well, it's their choice..

It's quite likely that just by removing the protector the image would have improved quite a lot..

/d/n.

And polarizer.

In my pocket .

Thanks for help guys. Let's hope I will imporve my latest photos...

Comment #8

A different comment..

This is a scene where you probably want to maximise the depth of field so you definitely shouldn't be shooting at f2.8. f8 or even f11 would be better since there is plenty of light..

Also, your lens will probably be at it's sharpest at about 2-3 stops below maximum aperture, i.e. f5.6-f8.0. Don't shoot wide open unless you need to because there isn't enough light or you want to minimise the depth of field.Chris R..

Comment #9

Chris R-UK wrote:.

A different comment..

This is a scene where you probably want to maximise the depth offield so you definitely shouldn't be shooting at f2.8. f8 or evenf11 would be better since there is plenty of light..

Also, your lens will probably be at it's sharpest at about 2-3 stopsbelow maximum aperture, i.e. f5.6-f8.0. Don't shoot wide open unlessyou need to because there isn't enough light or you want to minimisethe depth of field..

Yes. What Chris has said is right.There is nothing wrong with your picture that wouldn't have been fixed by.....

Using a lenshood (something you should do for every shot).

Shooting with a smaller aperture (2 stops down from maximum recommended).

Using a little MINUS exposure compensation for shots like this, about 1/3 or 1/2.

Removing all unnecessary glass, filters etc. from front of lens.

Keeping lens nice and clean with lens brush..

Please note that on nice sunny days the sky is naturally lighter close to the horizon .... even if you had not noticed this before, your camera DID notice it!.

For your information.......

About one month later in the year, [August] it is possible for the whole sky to turn almost pure white. This is the effect of larger dust particles being forced into the upper atmosphere by thermal currents, which are themselves driven by large continental land masses (Central Europe, the Plains of USA) heating up to their summer maximums..

When is the sky at it's MOST blue? When it is "swept clean"..... which is when wind follows rain. =============================================.

Also note that the picture you have can be quickly tidied up with a little retouching in Photoshop or similar picture editing program.Regards,Baz..

Comment #10

Just checked your pic with pe6. it ks definately overexposed. the right side is climbinmg the right wall of the histogram. your +0.3 EC was definately not needed..

Why did you think it was? didn't you check the dslrs histogram? it would have shown you the histo and would've told you that no EC is required. frokm examining the histo , I do not know ether or not any positive EC was needed. it is possible, probable, that a negative 0.3EC would be a better move. the people who are telling that the right white area is flare are wrong, IMO. I believe that what the white is is the beginning of the sky going to allwhite and blowing, and it is starting in the right area..

I suggest the following-if the scene is still available to be reshot. go there and put the camera into matrix(evalutive) metering and full auto mode, frame and shoot. then YOU do reshoot in whatever metering and mode you wish with whatever settings you want, frame and shoot. if that scene unavailable then use a similar scene..

Bring images to computer and compare and analyze. do not be concerned if either pic is too dim on first seing it on the pc. simply use auto levels in whatever pp program you use and then compare. also note all differences in the settings between the auto shot and your shot shot. and try to determine why those differnces are there..

Note-if the auto pic is too dim that is very probably the evalutive metering trying to keep the highlights from blowing. it is backing down the exposure to preserve the highlights. if you then put the camea into program and use EC you will defeat the metering and blow the highlights...

Comment #11

I defenitly did mistake by not checking my settings. EV and also f2,8. Was a bit tired after 7 hours of walk in mountains. And my mind was not focused on the matter..

But what about lens protector? also unnecessary? I mean... I use it not to scratch my lens. A few people advice me that. You guys don't use it at all ? .

Wll notice you after this weekend, how things went. Will be on a short trip and will try to take photos as you sugested..

Comment #12

Some people use filters to protect lenses. Some not..

I have 7 lenses in my backpack, all with caps..

I use filters only when needed (CPL, ND, ND Grads)..

Lens hood protects lens better then filter..

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Comment #13

Lens filter for protection. when I started with slrs in 1970 I had a filter on every lens I had. over time I took them all off. now, and I have been for many yrs, I am nlt jsing a filter protyectyor on any of my lenses. I have NEVER in 38yrs of slr/dslr use ever damaged scratched or hurt a lens in any way. if you take the proper care of your lenses, they will last a long time, and you do not need protective fi,ters.



Note if you use a filter on a lens then the optical quality of the filter has to be as good as the lens you are using it on, or IQ will drop. there is no point in buying a cheap filter, it just decreases the image quality. in other words, if you using a L grade lens from canon or the equivelent from another maker then the filter has to be that good as well. obviously for filter that good you are talking about a lot of money...

Comment #14

I see. I thought about this last day and it's really simpel. Lens cap is enough to take care of lens. No filter. But never thought in that way until now, so I had in my head just one thing until these days : each lens with filter on. But will change now.

Hopfully it will be ok and pictures will improve..

Will show you results here..

Thanks for all advices guys...

Comment #15

That's another good use for a hood - keeps things like grubby fingers away from the front of the lens...

Comment #16

Equipment packed, hood mounted, protector unmounted, lens cap so far on .

Let's see what will come out tomorrow..

Will show products here..

Comment #17

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