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Wanted: DSLR-like with good lowlight conditions
Hi,.

My brother-in-law is a painter. He likes to photograph scenes that inspire him. He has a compact with a small zoom and this is getting on his nerves. So he would like to have a digital camera with a long zoom. Moreover he likes to take pictures in low-light conditions so he would like to have a camera that doesn't give too much noise....

Any suggestions, new or second hand?.

Max price is 500 Euro, that should be around 700 $ or 750 ..

Regards,.

Paul..

Comments (9)

Muug wrote:.

So he would like to have a digital camera with a longzoom. Moreover he likes to take pictures in low-light conditions sohe would like to have a camera that doesn't give too much noise....

I think your brother-in-law is looking for a camera that doesn't yet exist..

Long zoom in a compact camera makes for a high ISO requirement. This is to ensure that the pictures are free from camera shake, which shows up most in long lens pictures. Sadly, high ISO generates high noise in the camera(sensor) sizes you are talking about, and of course, noise is much worse if you want to shoot low light levels!!.

So, it is either.....

1) get a dSLR and a longish zoom, learn how to use the equipment and put up with the size of the kit..

Or...

2) carry on with the current camera, and "edit out the noise" at the post processing (painting!) stage..

That is the situation at present. Things are improving all the time, but, if I were your brother-in-law, I wouldn't hold my breath for a dramatically improved SLR-like camera appearing soon that particular camera style is no longer being actively developed........ which I think is great shame, but there you go... [shrugs]Regards,Baz..

Comment #1

Forget compacts and DSLR-likes if you want to take low light pictures..

You need DSLR with fast lens. And you need image stabilisation either in lens or in-camera..

Edvinas..

Comment #2

Well, I know that a DSLR should be the way to go, but money limits the choice..

About the noise and smear.... which brand produces the best sensors / is best in capturing the light? I read lots of good about Fuji and lots of bad about Panasonic.... any suggestions which brand is preferable?..

Comment #3

Muug wrote:.

Well, I know that a DSLR should be the way to go, but money limitsthe choice..

About the noise and smear.... which brand produces the best sensors /is best in capturing the light? I read lots of good about Fuji andlots of bad about Panasonic.... any suggestions which brand ispreferable?.

Panasonic are not good indoors, Fuji F31fd is good at lowlight, but not a long zoom, and becoming scarce as discontinued. As others have said, the ideal camera doesn't exist..

If your budget is 500 euro, that's about 350 (not 750) - so you are getting close to a Pentax K100D or Nikon D40 with that money. Just save a little while longer..

Alex..

Comment #4

Muug wrote:.

Well, I know that a DSLR should be the way to go, but money limitsthe choice..

Entry level DSLR's (such as Nikon D40, Pentax K100D) are cheap nowadays (less than 500). Get body only, then get some used manual lens for 20 and here you go. With Pentax you'll even get shake reduction..

Also you can get used DSLR (should cost ~250-300).

Edvinas..

Comment #5

You have to bear in mind that this is very much a DSLR enthusiast website, so the advice you'll be getting will be pointing in that direction..

However, all is not as it seems and as the person wanting to upgrade his camera is a painter then he will automatically be prepared to put time and effort into getting his camera to work as he wants it to.Here's a low light ISO 800 shot from the Fuji 9100.

Image control:Zoom outZoom 100%Zoom inExpand AllOpen in new window.

Take a look at my "Back to the Bridge" link below... are any of those the kinds of shots he's after? You can make the Fuji 9100 do more or less anything you want it to do, and the flip out LCD is an real benefit to composition at interesting heights and angles. A fraction of the cost of a DSLR too....

John.Please visit me at:http://www.pbase.com/johnfr/backtothebridgehttp://www.pbase.com/johnfr..

Comment #6

Fuji S6500fd comes closest to meeting your criteria..

Read the reviews on this website...

Comment #7

I see problems, experience of anti-shake/image stabilisation is that it doesn't do more than give you a couple of slower speeds than you can hold. As I could hold the things still for 1 or second exposures when a lot younger I'd recommend learning the technique before spending money..

Personally, I'd always go for a fast lens (f/2 or so) and low ISO like 80 or 100 and forget about noise removal, or else buy tripod. If your brother likes landscape photography then a tripod, cable release and a slow shutter speed might be the answer..

I've said that, btw, because fast zooms with f/2 to f/24 across the range and even f/2 all the way exist but they cost a lot of money; far beyond the budget..

OTOH, a secondhand Olympus E-20 would give a decent fast lens and the chance to add an equivalent 200 mm f/24 one for very little money. By today's standards they are slow and heavy but they still deliver the goods..

Regards, David..

Comment #8

Well, thanks everybody for the links and the info. As I knew allready, it's entirely up to him to choose : invest a little more in a large volume body + lense, or be happy with the limitations of a somewhat less cheaper bridge camera. I'l be happy to guide him but in the end it's up to him.....

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