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Validation of buying choice
Hi All,.

Having decided to buy a DSLR for the first time I have been looking around and reading for the past few weeks and think I have come to a choice. I was hoping though that you could validate my decision making and see whether you generally agree..

From what I have read the following is largely true for beginners:.

1) Almost all of the current crop of cameras will provide a fantastic start point and provide excellent pictures (if I can learn and have the skill to most out of them ).

2) If I really get into it then extension through better lenses to a good body will come once I have learnt more about the camera and photography and understood how standard kit lens are holding me back..

I wanted to spend around 600 euros and have found the following current offers on for slightly older models that might suit me as a starting point..

Canon 400D with standard 18-55 - 470 eurosSony Alpha 200 with standard kit - 500 eurosNikon D60 with VR lens kit - 550 euros.

I was personally leaning towards the Canon 400D as I thought it was a good starting point and I could upgrade lenses later and the price/performance seemed very good. I have read some negative points about the lenses but am not sure that the negatives would hold me back for first 6 months and have seen fantastic pictures using them. Any thoughts?.

However, in two local camera shops they have tried steering me towards the Sony's although all reviews say that they are noisy at higher ISO's - my fear is always in shops that they are maybe trying to sell what they get best margins on hence I was looking for independent advice..

So all in all at this price point what would you all suggest or would you say go the extra 50 euros or so and go for the Canon 450 with the IS lens or the Sony 350?.

Thanks for any advice you can give,.

Dave...

Comments (9)

Yatesd2404 wrote:.

However, in two local camera shops they have tried steering metowards the Sony's although all reviews say that they are noisy athigher ISO's - my fear is always in shops that they are maybe tryingto sell what they get best margins on hence I was looking forindependent advice..

This time they are right..

So all in all at this price point what would you all suggest or wouldyou say go the extra 50 euros or so and go for the Canon 450 with theIS lens or the Sony 350?.

D60 with VR kit lens is better one (ISO3200, AF assist, good lens, my choice). K200D with kit lens is good too..

For $50 extra (as you told) 450D with IS kit lens (it is bit better than non-IS version of kit lens) is worthy choice.Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612Thanks for your time...

Comment #1

So given that Sony 300 and the Nikon D60 VR are about the same price which would you go for...

Comment #2

The one I'd go for as a walk-around camera (because I like the live view and flip out LCD and have some old Minolta mount lenses and accessories) would be the Sony Alpha 300. However if I wanted to do a lot of portaiture I go the Nikon or Canon route as I think their flash systems and their lens choices are better..

It looks like you're going to be prone to Buyers' Remorse no matter what you decide, so it might be better to visit a camera store and handle the cameras side by side so that you can at least choose the one that feels most comfortable to live with. If you actually like a camera then you'll be that much more committed to go that extra mile in getting it to perform well. It's that simple really - they all work well but with some you have to work just a little harder at..

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Comment #3

The camera with better lens. So D60. The lens affects the IQ significantly.A300 with 12-60mm lens would be minimum I would look for..

However if you can afford then Pentax K200D with 18-250mm lens will be all inclusive package. This lens is better than many smaller zooms..

Yatesd2404 wrote:.

So given that Sony 300 and the Nikon D60 VR are about the same pricewhich would you go for..

Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612Thanks for your time...

Comment #4

A) As far as kit lenses go. The quality goes down from Olympus, Nikon (new VR), Pentax, Canon (new IS), Sony in that order. So on a budget, nothing beats Olympus E520 with twin lens kit..

B) New 18-250mm lens (available for for all cameras) is good all purpose lens. Better than 18-200mm ones..

Ajay0612 wrote:.

The camera with better lens. So D60. The lens affects the IQsignificantly.A300 with 12-60mm lens would be minimum I would look for.However if you can afford then Pentax K200D with 18-250mm lens willbe all inclusive package. This lens is better than many smaller zooms..

Yatesd2404 wrote:.

So given that Sony 300 and the Nikon D60 VR are about the same pricewhich would you go for..

Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612Thanks for your time..

Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612Thanks for your time...

Comment #5

You left out other good choices from Olympus and Pentax. Many people believe that all of the choices are good and you should decide based on feel/ergonomics. I decided that I wanted to be able to upgrade with time. Nikon and Canon make the highest level of professional camera bodies and lenses. You can upgrade as much as you want based on your finances and future interests. Based on the choices you listed that would mean the Nikon since the Canon has the older non-stabilized lens.

The low priced Canon 1000 is not yet available and the 450/XSi has more features but is more expensive. I opted to spend more for the XSi. I wanted the liveview manual focus feature for macro photography. I am really happy with my choice and have spent many, many hours in gardens and arboretums using the kit lens with a closeup filter and now my new macro lens...

Comment #6

Once you buy, don't ever come on the net and read any posts about that type of camera. There will always be 100 posts about how bad it is at everything, no matter which camera you choose..

Better yet, post lots of great shows showing them how wrong they are!.

If you think that makes sense, then you must have read someone else's post!..

Comment #7

The corollary is don't immediately begin posting to other newbies looking to buy camera gear and try to convince them to buy the same with the purpose of validating your decision...

Comment #8

Ajay0612 wrote:.

A) As far as kit lenses go. The quality goes down from Olympus, Nikon(new VR), Pentax, Canon (new IS), Sony in that order..

I think you may be considering the original 18-55 Pentax kit lens, not the new mark II version..

So on a budget,nothing beats Olympus E520 with twin lens kit..

Your statement is overly broad. No doubt the Olympus 5xx with a twin lens kit is a good value. Others are also good values, maybe better depending on personal taste, feature set for a particular purpose, or ergonomics...

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