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Too much noise in low light photos
So I did my first photo shot for a local band at their show. I'm using a XTi with a 50mm f/1.8. I shot all the photos at 1/40 and f/1.8 (I did not use a flash); and EVERY SINGLE photo has a retarded amount of noise in it. It's not so bad that it ruins every shot, but there is an amazing amount of noise..

What do I have to do to reduce the noise? Do use a flash (I don't really want to, but will if I have to) or is one of my settings wrong?.

Every artist was first an amateur.- Ralph Waldo Emerson..

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Nakor1 wrote:.

So I did my first photo shot for a local band at their show. I'musing a XTi with a 50mm f/1.8. I shot all the photos at 1/40 andf/1.8 (I did not use a flash); and EVERY SINGLE photo has a retardedamount of noise in it. It's not so bad that it ruins every shot, butthere is an amazing amount of noise.What do I have to do to reduce the noise? Do use a flash (I don'treally want to, but will if I have to) or is one of my settings wrong?.

Every artist was first an amateur.- Ralph Waldo Emerson.

What iso did you use?Sorry about my english, it's not my first language...

Comment #1

One that has not been worked on at all.

Michael Salzlechnerhttp://www.Salzlechner.comhttp://www.PalmsWestPhoto.com..

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Apoc wrote:.

Nakor1 wrote:.

So I did my first photo shot for a local band at their show. I'musing a XTi with a 50mm f/1.8. I shot all the photos at 1/40 andf/1.8 (I did not use a flash); and EVERY SINGLE photo has a retardedamount of noise in it. It's not so bad that it ruins every shot, butthere is an amazing amount of noise.What do I have to do to reduce the noise? Do use a flash (I don'treally want to, but will if I have to) or is one of my settings wrong?.

Every artist was first an amateur.- Ralph Waldo Emerson.

What iso did you use?Sorry about my english, it's not my first language..

I used ISO 800 for every picture..

Every artist was first an amateur.- Ralph Waldo Emerson..

Comment #3

PalmsWestPhoto wrote:.

One that has not been worked on at all.

Michael Salzlechnerhttp://www.Salzlechner.comhttp://www.PalmsWestPhoto.com.

I have no idea how to post an example. I'll post one if someone can tell me how..

Every artist was first an amateur.- Ralph Waldo Emerson..

Comment #4

Open a flikr account, upload your pictures, copy and paste thehttp://www. link to your post here in the forum...

Comment #5

Http://www.flickr.com/photos//photos/52796572@N00/2095916054/.

Every artist was first an amateur.- Ralph Waldo Emerson..

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Nakor1 wrote:.

Http://www.flickr.com/photos//photos/52796572@N00/2095916054/.

Every artist was first an amateur.- Ralph Waldo Emerson.

I don't know your camera,but some cameras simply don't perform well at higher ISO speeds. So unless you can afford to upgrade a newer body, then you'll have to correct the noise in post. You might try bumping your exposure up a bit more regardless what the meter read. Low light is almost a "feel" as far as exposure. Underexposure seems to make noise worse..

Also try shooting in RAW to give you more cushion for post production..

Here is what a quick punch-up with Shadow/Highlights + Lucis + Noise Ninja can do:.

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So even your jpg can be brought back from the dead with about a minutes worth of Photoshop...

Comment #7

Took a look at your photos and I have a few observations..

1- The noise level looks normal considering the photo is 1.5-2 stops underexposed..

2- Shooting moving subjects in extremely low light is nearly/is impossible without using a super high ISO and a super fast lens - f1.8 or faster. Even then you will have motion blur because your shutter speed will still be under 1/60..

3- The only way to get a shot like this is to either add more light to the scene, or make your subjects hold very still while your camera gathers enough light to make the exposure. In this scene it looks like your shutter is under 1/30 and probably should have been 1/4 to get a proper exposure..

4- Underexposed shots will exhibit much more image noise than a properly exposed image of the same scene..

5- If flashes are allowed, try bouncing off a ceiling or a wall...

Comment #8

I hope these replies help, but please post issues like this in the lighting forum next time...

Comment #9

These replies helped greatly. Thank you. I'll put it in the lighting forum next time; the only reason I put it into this one, is I didn't know where to post this.Every artist was first an amateur.- Ralph Waldo Emerson..

Comment #10

The trick to shooting low light photos is not to underexpose. Best results come from proper exposure..

Stevehttp://vette74.smugmug.com..

Comment #11

First you may be asking too much from you XTi..

Second, as already mentioned you images are way under exposed. You may have seen better results shooting with the proper exposure at ISO1600..

That said, I've shot low light theater work using an XTi as a backup at ISO 1600 and the results are certainly better then what you posted. I'd suggests trying again and experiment with ISO and exposure some more. If you have any control over the lighting, see if you can get them to add a spot light or something to add a bit more light on the band..

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Rob KircherMy Stuff:http://www.pbase.com/rkircher..

Comment #12

XT or XTi... 50mm f1.8 slow shutter, high ISO properly exposed shots (for me) don't have too much noise. Just avoid under exposing..

Get the 50mm f1.4, boost your ISO, adjust your shutterspeed...or all there and watch the histogram...

Comment #13

John Mercer wrote:.

I hope these replies help, but please post issues like this in thelighting forum next time..

Why should this be posted in the lighting forum? He is a beginner with questions about how to reduce noise in his photos, not how to set up lighting for a shoot. It just so happens that the solution is to get more light, but how was he supposed to know the answer was additional light - because if he did, I don't think that there would have been a question in the first place..

To the original poster, this is a very valid place to post your question...

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Dave_s93 wrote:.

John Mercer wrote:.

I hope these replies help, but please post issues like this in thelighting forum next time..

Why should this be posted in the lighting forum? He is a beginnerwith questions about how to reduce noise in his photos, not how toset up lighting for a shoot. It just so happens that the solution isto get more light, but how was he supposed to know the answer wasadditional light - because if he did, I don't think that there wouldhave been a question in the first place..

To the original poster, this is a very valid place to post yourquestion..

Hi.

I think this whole thread was moved from the Pro forum...unless I am losing my mind!.

Neil..

Comment #15

As others have emphasised the problem is not the inherent performance of your camera at ISO1600, but the underexposure. If you underexpose by two stops and compensate in post-processing, you are taking a very weak signal and amplifying it which increases the noise further. Effectively, you are using your camera at ISO6400 which is asking a lot!.

Best wishesMike..

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