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Hi.

I own 3 domain names that a company wants as the contacted me, They offered me 50 for all 3, which I turned down,.

The person who wanted the domain names then proceeded to call the number of the whois every 15 mins and wont stop until he speaks to me the /img/avatar6.jpg,.

Eventually I got around to calling him and he told me to **** off.

I decided that this was enough and emailed that I would transfer the domain names to him,.

This is what I said.

> Further to our brief telephone call last night are you still wanting the.

> following domain names, I was calling to talk about the transfer of these.

> domain names to yourself before you decided to put the phone done.

>.

3 domains here listed in email.

>.

> If you want these domain names email me back.

>.

> Kerr This is what he said back.

You have a choice m8, you either freely give them to me for the cost they were to you, or you wait for my soliciters letter to be sent to your parents house, they are not so important to us now as they were on tuesday, we have missed the crucial 24 hour period where they would have been relevent, in a week they will be useless to you, the choice is yours.

Martin cowley.

Also, your company name, your name , your parents address etc will be going in every single tv/radio and magazine article we do, and the reason why you took the domain names and the porn sites they were used for ok ? happy with that ?

From my side the domain names are 2 days old and were parked and now resolving to nowhere, Is he trying to blackmail in someway and what can I do about this? Do I have a criminal case with regards to this at all with his threats?.

I have offered to transfer these domains and he just gives me abuse, The person has been on TV recenlty in the uk.

Anyhelp and advice please would be great.

:-)..

Comments (46)

The whole message seems ridiculous. I'd ignore this person. Why would you even want to give them those domains?..

Comment #1

If they're two days old then I'm asuming they dropped and you regged them? Sit back and wait. If he sends you a C&D then look into it again. Basically call his bluff. Thats what I'd do atleast.

Regards,.

Fliq..

Comment #2

Would would they put all of that information in every tv and radio article they do?.

Would never happen. I promise you. I don't think you have anything to worry about. Just sounds like one guy who's on the fringe...

Comment #3

UPDATED EMAIL FROM HIM Really ? I would be more than happy for you to go to the police lol, seriously, we have all the emails we have sent between us, please feel free to carry on, Im way more careful than you think, I havent breached any laws, I havent rung your mum since I got your email, though I was within my rights to contact you via any medium I see fit and that you give out as your contact details, you offered to sell the domains to me, you wanted me to pay quite alot for them ( I assume, though Im not sure but I doubt you were going to offer them to me for the price you paid).

Martin.

P.s it was my solicitor that suggested the course we're taking, though I may not use his services on you as he explained that.

A. he will have to charge me for each thing he does and his fee's aint that cheap.

B. the domains arent worth the money I would have to pay him to get them, if you want to make a polite and once only offer to sell them to me for what they cost you I will listen, but if you arent please dont bother to contact me again.

C. hes very interested that you have been checking up on our business at companys house etc and buying up ALLEDGED DOMAINS.NAME you showed way more interest in buying stuff up soley because of our conection and the TV profile we received to be a mere accident.

What does this all mean now!!..

Comment #4

I am sorry, but without more information about the background it's impossible to say more.

Simply ignore this type. Or did you enter any kind of contract? Did you violate any trademarks or other rights? What are the domains this is about?.

As it seems so far this this person is issuing wild threats without any basis. Police?! What for? Seems ridiculous...

Comment #5

I did offer to hand the domain names over in a email then recived all the following email you have a choice m8, you either freely give them to me for the cost they were to you, or you wait for my soliciters letter to be sent to your parents house, they are not so important to us now as they were on tuesday, we have missed the crucial 24 hour period where they would have been relevent, in a week they will be useless to you, the choice is yours.

Also, your company name, your name , your parents address etc will be going in every single tv/radio and magazine article we do, and the reason why you took the domain names and the porn sites they were used for ok ? happy with that.

I have then asked what he meant by the following quote also, your company name, your name , your parents address etc will be going in every single tv/radio and magazine article we do, and the reason why you took the domain names and the porn sites they were used for ok ? happy with that.

I recieved this response Of course I contacted you to buy them, I was willing to pay you 50 for them on the night, they are not so important now, yes I would like them but only at cost price, as for the "threat" of naming you in the dailys ? it's not illegal, I was simply going to say in each interview that you cant contactus through thos particular domains as they were bought by you and where you live incase anyone tried to contact us via them, nothing illegal there, though to be honest I would not have mentioned your mothers address as she already had to listen to me trying to contact you, you had plenty of opportunity to contact me and you waited, so you can rest easy on that account her address is nothing to do with it, I may be miffed but not that miffed or unfair , as for my solicitor he doesnt want you to contact him as to talk to him YOU would have to pay for the privilage not me ( it's good to have a family member whos in the legal profesion), now finaly , if you want to sell me them for the price you paid I'm fine with that, otherwise dont email me again , otherwise I will assume your harrasing me.

Name removed..

Comment #6

Why dont you simply ignore him? Or is there anything he might have a point in? He contacted you to buy your domains, you refused, where is the problem?..

Comment #7

Just tell him to contact his lawyers as he will probably be spending far more on that lawyers fees than the cost of acquiring domains directly from u. if he still chooses that path he is an irrational customer who cant make informed choices at all..

Comment #8

Are the domains Generic -OR- not ?

I can't believe anyone would act this way over Generic terms ... But can see it over infringement on a TM/Brand.

As others have said - We would need more info to make a judgement call - But if the domains are generic , I'd ignore them and add Whois Privacy...

Comment #9

Well it is has reached the level of psychological warfare... it's up to you what to do but I can tell you that if he realy would talk legal action against you, he wouldn't warn you in front.

If I received a polite letter from his lawyer (which I rang first) I would hand over the domains, but to this impolite amateur? No Way...

Comment #10

He's an 4ssh0le. I don't think he really wants the domains. If he really wanted the domains, he'd negotiate with you. Just ignore him if you can. If he puts pressure on you or your family members, then I'd seek advice to see if there's a case against him for harassing you or your family members...

Comment #11

PM sent... help there if you need it.

Scooby ....

Comment #12

Fandie, you're not telling the whole story. You've been advised what to do on another forum and the domains in question have been identified as blatant squats. If you're going to troll this all over the domain boards, at least be up-front...

Comment #13

From what you have posted here, I'd say ignore him 100%, and get whois privacy protection on these names and future names.

The reason I say this is that this is the type of bull crap I'd try to pull when I first started domaining and had the maturity level of a baby snail. His emails are incorrectly punctuated, have poor grammar, and have a general n00biness to them. If he did work for a company or whatnot he would not portray his ignorance so openly.

He has nothing on you, he wont put your address in any magazines etc, if you just ignore him he will stop contacting you. As a matter of fact I am so sure that providing the above information is the information in all it's glory and is true that this guy doesn't even have a company and is actually a 9 year old working on his moms computer in the basement. TRUST ME..

Comment #14

U should ignore him until he gets official,.

If he abuses your name use the law that protects you from these actions..

Comment #15

Ditto what aZooZa said...

If you gamble on name squatting, surely you know the risk by now.....

Comment #16

I did say that it wasn't as easy as that. This is a Nominet DRS thing. It's up to Fandie to explain - I'm done with it. Don't be a silly arse Fandie. Or explain it all here. But you are apparently under UK legal age - so get your parents to explain...

Comment #17

If he still insists he has done nothing illegal firstly for the phone calls he could be charged with harassment. If he does this then he will be in serious danger of disclosing information he has no right to disclose in an unnecessary medium. He is backtracking trying to cover his ass. Why would anyone mention in an article or advert not to contact someone else it is absurd. Actually the solicitor is paid by him. the solicitor is acting on his behalf.

I personally would keep a log of everything he says every phone call he makes and every email he sends. I would also contact the police and have him warned at least over his harassment. If the domain are typo's etc then do what is right there and have the domains transferred. If they are generic then keep them don;t give them to him unless he has proper rights to them...

Comment #18

That's what I also thought after I couldn't make sense reading his posts after.

At least 3 times.

Let's put it this way, Fandie: did you really: Or: If you specifically did the latter and the other party is prepared to take action.

Against you for that, then you might want to keep your end of the bargain.

Good luck making the right decision...

Comment #19

I offered to transfer the domain names to him then he changed his mind then he was going to threaten me, etc etc.

I can put all emails between us if you want? might be better..

Comment #20

Well you still havent provided the entire background information. If this what aZooZa mentioned is fully correct you actually might have to give the domains. Otherwise my advice still is and was to simply ignore this person. There isnt anymore to say...

Comment #21

Tell them to go and learn how to write and spell..

Get whois privacy.

If they can't be civilised, let them pay a lot of money for lawyers for domains not worth much at all.

Scare tactics.....

Comment #22

Always fun to view with interest the people on the internet who are a; clearly BS'ing and b; easy to pick apart..

From one-man-band bedroom business guys who give "our team are looking into it", "our design companies, our bankers, our lawyers" yadda yadda when in fact they are living at home with their parents and have none of what they boast.

Anyhow, lets look at the holes in this case; a guy is in regular contact with a lawyer about a bunch of domain names that would cost 50 each.. Come on, do me a favour. heaven knows I know lawyers and he just has to cough in my direction and I'm landed a $$$ bill... By my reckoning, the guy looking to buy these names has spent $$$$ already discussing these $50 names.....

Comment #23

Kerr... are you sitting on some TM's?.

It's all to clear this is just another kid, just as Badger says...

Comment #24

Two questions and a simple yes or no will suffice...

Is it a blatant TM?.

Was it directed to porn?..

Comment #25

LOL, I recognise some people (or shall I say 'dedicated teams') I dealt with before, very funny indeed.

I fully agree with you Ian that there is nothing to worry about here, it really makes no sense to make so much fuss with $$$ an hour lawyers about 50 Pound domain names..

No need to worry about it Fandie. Maybe you can post all emails on the 'disputed' domain names..

Comment #26

No Trademark.

Not pointed to any porn site,.

I will post all the emails on here soon..

Comment #27

Given this I can only readvise what I already wrote in the first reply...

Comment #28

Next time he calls you pick up the phone and blow a loud whistle into his ear!!!.

Sounds like he needs a women real bad...

Comment #29

Ok, you say it is not a trademark, but a member says you posted in another forum and it appears they thought it was a blatant TM. So how do you know there is no TM? Also, why would the emailer mention porn? was it ever point to a porn site at any point?.

Sorry to be pessimistic, but just trying to cur through the fluff, and it seems there is more going on then is being presented, especially when it has been called out already in this thread and there was no reply.

Just because someone is obnoxious and has no class in communication does not mean they can't be right. Unfortunately, without knowing the name or the type of name (perhaps giving an accurate example) could help you in handling this situation...

Comment #30

Hi.

Ok there does not appear to be a trademark in the uk, the company is based in the uk, the company is not registered as a company and trades under a different name which is also not a plc or ltd company.

With regards to the porn issue, the domain was never pointing to any porn site and the domains dont resolve to anywhere.

Latest email from him Of course I contacted you to buy them, I was willing to pay you 50 for them on the night, they are not so important now, yes I would like them but only at cost price, as for the "threat" of naming you in the dailys ? it's not illegal, I was simply going to say in each interview that you cant contactus through thos particular domains as they were bought by you and where you live incase anyone tried to contact us via them, nothing illegal there, though to be honest I would not have mentioned your mothers address as she already had to listen to me trying to contact you, you had plenty of opportunity to contact me and you waited, so you can rest easy on that account her address is nothing to do with it, I may be miffed but not that miffed or unfair , as for my solicitor he doesnt want you to contact him as to talk to him YOU would have to pay for the privilage not me ( it's good to have a family member whos in the legal profesion), now finaly , if you want to sell me them for the price you paid I'm fine with that, otherwise dont email me again , otherwise I will assume your harrasing me.

He has emailed me again, but I dont think I should repsond due to the end of the last quote if you want to sell me them for the price you paid I'm fine with that, otherwise dont email me again , otherwise I will assume your harrasing me.

Shall I just wait for a letter from his solicitors and then take from there?..

Comment #31

Lol thats a bit rich from someone that was phoning you every 15 minutes...

Comment #32

Thats how we are meant to be Dog !..

Comment #33

If this is the case: Then why is he paying for these services. I would not worry he has no stong story and from what you have posted it seems he has changed a bit..

Comment #34

This is a joke. I don't know about the whole story..but based on the amateurish email and backpedaling, just move on...if he keeps bugging you, call his bluff...if you've done nothing wrong...

Comment #35

What are the domain names?.

That will resolve the issue of TM which is lurking in the shadows of this thread..

Then you can get some straight forward advice here...

Comment #36

Never ask to post domain names if the OP does not want to reveal. If htere could be issues, this could be used against them. That is why more of the established members have not asked...

Comment #37

Post the names (sorry Phil)...seems you are gonna give them up anyways. So no harm imho in posting them.

And I LIVE for drama like this. Man...I wish I owned those domains. I would drive that guy up the wall. He is so full of BS it's incredible.

Please post the names ...also do you have his phone number? I would love you to publish it. He certainly deserves a couple of calls from domainers. What an ass this person is...no matter if you have a couple TM domains are not. If he knows you are under 18 he should immediately contact your parents on the matter. He is playing games with you and that's not cool. I don't know UK law but I have a feeling he is breaking some and I wonder what civil actions you could take for the harrassment.

Guaranteed I would be getting a lawyer and turning this around on them...

Comment #38

I was going to post something similar.. publish SOMETHING would you please?..

Comment #39

Hey Jesse, I still think there is more to this situation than what was presented. I just don't want the kid to get into more trouble than it is worth if that is teh case...

Comment #40

Hey,I would advise to forget about him ,he is a funny man..

Comment #41

Write him pack and tell him you are putting an amateur porn site up and you need some pics of his GF.

Then about an hour later, send him a follow up asking if he has finished blowing his GF up yet?.

OK, just kidding. But I would just ignore the guy unless you are sitting on a blatant TM issue. Even if he has a TM on the name, it doesn't necessarily mean he is the only one that can use it. It might depend on the context of your use of the domain as to whether or not you are infringing. (AFAIK)..

Comment #42

Yes they banned me for bringing up this issue on these domains, dont know why maybe someone can find out, the mods were interested in fandie.com also, seems a bit weird for me though..

Comment #43

Is the guy with pink hair emailing you?.

Wow!.

I brought nothing to this thread, I'll show myself out...

Comment #44

??...

Weird that you register the name because you saw that a couple wanted to start a business with that name (ie, registered in bad faith), or weird that you sign up for a new account because your old one was banned?..

Comment #45

We are done here!.

Nobody is impressed, Kerr.

Cy..

Comment #46


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