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OK, I've searched the forum, but I may stink at searching so...I've decided on the Nikon D40, but I am wondering about getting a third party lense. Taking a trip to Yellowstone this summer and I want to get the 200mm VR lense..

As far as Tamron and Sigma go, none of those lenses come with VR right? If not, should I be concerned or should I just get the non VR Nikon 200mm kit lense?.

Thanks in advance,.

Angela..

Comments (15)

VR isn't the issue here. You're limited with the D40 because it requires lenses that have a built in focus motor (unlike most other Nikon bodies, the D40 does not have the the focus motor in it's body)..

You'll need not only an AF-S compatible lens, but one that is also VR if that's important..

Without a Nikon AF-S lens or compatible third party version, you'll be stuck manually focusing..

I am not sufficiently familiar with third party lenses to make a recommendation...

Comment #1

As far as Tamron and Sigma go, none of those lenses come with VRright? If not, should I be concerned or should I just get the non VRNikon 200mm kit lense?Angela.

Sigma does an 18-200 with an image stabiliser, and I think there's a version that works on your camera. However, it won't be as good optically as a the Nikon 200mm lens. If you can afford the Nikon lens, it will give you the best photos. Quite a specialised lens though, so be sure you need it..

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Comment #2

OK, I've searched the forum, but I may stink at searching so...I'vedecided on the Nikon D40, but I am wondering about getting a thirdparty lense. Taking a trip to Yellowstone this summer and I want toget the 200mm VR lense..

Do you mean the 55-200 VR zoom (cf. Andrew's comment in the post above). I haven't used bit but I have heard good things about it..

Best wishes.

Mike..

Comment #3

Sigma's version of "VR" is "OS" (Optical Stabilization). The current OS lenses are the 18-200mm COS and the 80-400mm EX DG OS. The 18-125mm DC OS lens is on it's way. Sigma will be putting OS into more of their lenses.My humble photo gallery: http://ntotrr.smugmug.com.

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Comment #4

Apnep wrote:.

OK, I've searched the forum, but I may stink at searching so...I'vedecided on the Nikon D40, but I am wondering about getting a thirdparty lense. Taking a trip to Yellowstone this summer and I want toget the 200mm VR lense..

As far as Tamron and Sigma go, none of those lenses come with VRright? If not, should I be concerned or should I just get the non VRNikon 200mm kit lense?.

Thanks in advance,.

Angela.

Or you can re-evaluate the whole question and pick a camera system that simplifies this question for you as they are out there. pentax, sony and olympus all have in body IS removing that question and with that lenses that both manual focus legacy and digital will enjoy IS when used..

This keeps coming up and to me while the d40 takes nice pictures the whole lens w/ w/o focus motor, IS, no IS seems a bit of a mess for a beginner to manage adding a completely unnecessary complication to d40 ownership...

Comment #5

I wouldn't buy the D40. Partly because the D60 is a much better camera and in the UK anyway is being sold for not a lot more. Also because of the lens restrictions that the previous poster points out and also, have you looked at the size of the glass on the D40? it is so small that you might as well buy a p&s and save some money.Jules.

Apnep wrote:.

OK, I've searched the forum, but I may stink at searching so...I'vedecided on the Nikon D40, but I am wondering about getting a thirdparty lense. Taking a trip to Yellowstone this summer and I want toget the 200mm VR lense..

As far as Tamron and Sigma go, none of those lenses come with VRright? If not, should I be concerned or should I just get the non VRNikon 200mm kit lense?.

Thanks in advance,.

Angela.

Why can't you blow bubbles with chewing gum?..

Comment #6

JulesJ wrote:.

I wouldn't buy the D40. Partly because the D60 is a much bettercamera and in the UK anyway is being sold for not a lot more. Alsobecause of the lens restrictions that the previous poster points out.

The D60 has exactly the same restrictions. But yes, it's a better camera, though really the same as the D40x, which would be worth having over the D40 if you could afford it..

And also, have you looked at the size of the glass on the D40? it isso small that you might as well buy a p&s and save some money..

I don't know what you mean by this. Lenses are lenses. You decide which to put on, so the size of the glass is entirely up to the buyer as long as they know the kit lens comes off....

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Comment #7

Andrew, I am not familiar with what extralenses are available for the D40, but a friend has one and the front diameter of the standard that it came with is 'diddy' compared with say the D70 or other slightly more expensive cameras. This might not be a very technical observation but I have found that the physically bigger the lens then usually the more expensive and better it is.Jules.

Andrew Butterfield wrote:.

And also, have you looked at the size of the glass on the D40? it isso small that you might as well buy a p&s and save some money..

I don't know what you mean by this. Lenses are lenses. You decidewhich to put on, so the size of the glass is entirely up to the buyeras long as they know the kit lens comes off....

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Comment #8

JulesJ wrote:.

Andrew, I am not familiar with what extralenses are available for theD40, but a friend has one and the front diameter of the standard thatit came with is 'diddy' compared with say the D70 or other slightlymore expensive cameras. This might not be a very technicalobservation but I have found that the physically bigger the lens thenusually the more expensive and better it is.Jules.

All current dSLR's have interchangeable lenses. That means that someone might buy a D3 ($5000 without a lens) and put a 35mm f/2 (diddy size) on it. As it happens, this combination can take rather good pictures..

So your friend's diameter-challenged D40 lens has no bearing on the camera's image quality and, in fact, could work better than one with a more manly endowment..

Leonard Migliore..

Comment #9

JulesJ wrote:.

Andrew, I am not familiar with what extralenses are available for theD40, but a friend has one and the front diameter of the standard thatit came with is 'diddy' compared with say the D70 or other slightlymore expensive cameras. This might not be a very technicalobservation but I have found that the physically bigger the lens thenusually the more expensive and better it is.Jules.

There are a lot: from Nikon, and third-party manufacturers like Tamron and Sigma. The D40 comes with a fairly cheap and narrow-aperture 'kit' lens to keep the cost down: the lens on your friend's D70 is presumably a bigger one like the 18-70 or 18-135. You are right that physically bigger lenses equate to wider aperture and higher cost but that is nothing to do with the camera body..

Best wishesMike..

Comment #10

Why live with the hassle of lens choices with your camera, get a Canon Xti or Xsi and not have to worry that some lenses won't work on your camera. The Xti is cheaper than the Xsi and is a very good camera. Then you will have lots of "IS" choices among Canon, Sigma, Tamron and other lenses.Rationally I have no hope, irrationally I believe in miracles.Joni Mitchell..

Comment #11

Rsn48 wrote:.

Why live with the hassle of lens choices with your camera, get aCanon Xti or Xsi and not have to worry that some lenses won't workon your camera. The Xti is cheaper than the Xsi and is a very goodcamera. Then you will have lots of "IS" choices among Canon, Sigma,Tamron and other lenses..

You've got a similar headache there as well just moved past the AF motor question. you invest in an asp-c system and system lenses and then decide over time you can't resist the herd and go 35mm for whatever reason and now you have a bunch of useless glass. So yes you do have a decision to make there as well just at a different level. add to that IS or no IS and you have complexity and cost to consider with every lens purchase..

There are other systems that will allow you to get rid of those questions the fact is canon isn't one of them as the poster would lead you to believe..

If you never go past asp-c though it won't ever be a factor though and you will only be left with IS or no IS with each and every lens purchase...

Comment #12

There is only one lens one needs to purchase with a Nikon or Canon crop factor and that is the ultra wide end. In fact, if you purchase the Sigma 10-24 lens, you don't even need the "S" lenses for wide angle work. Every other lens should be a FF lens so when the "basic" Canon and Nikon cameras go FF, you won't have wasted your money on, in Canon lingo "S" lenses..

Of course you can buy those "S" lens but as soon as you hear that whatever version of XXD has gone full frame, dump those lenses on eBay while folks still think they are a good buy. Four or five years after FF comes into it's own on the Rebel, the value of the "S" lenses will drop dramatically. Kind of like folks now would prefer to purchase their lenses with "IS" or "VR" rather than without it. With ISO's going dramatically higher, IS and VR won't be as great an asset as it is now, but you and I know - perception of a product is everything.Rationally I have no hope, irrationally I believe in miracles.Joni Mitchell..

Comment #13

Hi,.

FWIW go with the D40 and a 55-200VR lens, you'll be fine. Too much is made of the lens motor requirement..

I suspect you'll only buy a few lenses anyway - the 18-55 kit lens - adding the 55-200 is pretty much it. If you need something wider then the Sigma 10-20 is a very useful addition and works perfectly with the D40..

There are pluses and minuses to in-body or in-lens image stabilisation. Don't worry about it..

Everyone has their own favourite camera manufacturer and wants others to buy them too - all the DSLR companies produce fine cameras..

Enjoy.

Andy..

Comment #14

So when the "basic"Canon and Nikon cameras go FF, you won't have wasted your money on,in Canon lingo "S" lenses..

A big assumption. Canon and Nikon are doing very nicely out of selling two lens ranges that make people upgrade all the time. I don't see this situation changing all that soon..

Androohttp://Androo.smugmug.com..

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