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the difference in these 2 light kits?
Can anyone tell me what are the difference in these 2 light stand kits? They appear to be identical with the exception of the umbrella.. I have tried to compare spec by spec.. The 1 kit is 210.00 more than the other and the cost of the umbrella in the more expensive kit is 34.94.. so multiply that times 2 = 70.00... So why is there 210 difference? What am I missing? Are these good kits? which of these are best?..

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Which 2 light kits?.

Posting a link may help...

Comment #1

Light stands are different. Click on the little plus signs..

One case is over the shoulder and the other case has wheels..

BAK..

Comment #2

Are the extras you get with the more expensive needed and worth the extra cost?..

Comment #3

Fliggyg wrote:.

Are the extras you get with the more expensive needed and worth theextra cost?.

Your kit, your money, your decision..

You might also want to look at the alien bees....

Http://www.alienbees.com/.

They have a DigiBee kit for $600 that has 2 400WS strobes, stands, umbrellas and a case..

Http://www.alienbees.com/digi.html.

The greatest of mankind's criminals are those who delude themselves into thinking they have done 'the right thing.'- Rayna Butler..

Comment #4

It's a personal choice but I have always preferred a power pack that is seperate and sits on the floor with flash heads that plug into it. It's a lot less weight sitting on top of a light stand that can tip over. If you go with mono heads just be sure you have sturdy stands.'The moment you think your great is the moment you quit learning.'http://www.gawalters.com..

Comment #5

The $600 Alien Bees kit has two 160 watt second flash units..

The Alien Bee naming system uses model numbers that do not match watt second ratings, but the WS ratings are easily seen in the web site, usually right beside the model name. Thus, AB400 flsash units are 160WS. AB800 units are 320WS. AB1600 units are 640WS..

That said, you could get a couple of AB1600 units, with 640WS each, for under the $1200 price of the other kits. Or get 320WS units, which is all the power most amateurs need, for even less money..

BAK..

Comment #6

BAK wrote:.

The $600 Alien Bees kit has two 160 watt second flash units..

The Alien Bee naming system uses model numbers that do not match wattsecond ratings, but the WS ratings are easily seen in the web site,usually right beside the model name. Thus, AB400 flsash units are160WS. AB800 units are 320WS. AB1600 units are 640WS..

That said, you could get a couple of AB1600 units, with 640WS each,for under the $1200 price of the other kits. Or get 320WS units,which is all the power most amateurs need, for even less money..

Yes .... exactly ..... If I am not mistaken the owner/designer of AllenBee is a former employee/partner of WHITE LIGHTING .....

The biggest JOKE about White Lighting were their "White LIES" since there model numbers always were double the actual power..

They had the gual to actually try to make people believe they had some "magic" technology that doubled their power..

In other words .... when they challenged on their "watt-seconds" .... they claimed that their output-power equal that of competitors with double the power..

That is nonsense .... it is true that a mono-light can indeed be more efficient because there is no power loss in a (long) cord; BUT .... that would only apply to a studio with separate units ... but an apples/apples comparison should be with other mono-lights, and I don't buy that they are/were significantly more efficient that other mono's..

BAK.

Thanks for reading .... JoePhoto.

( Do You Ever STOP to THINK and FORGET to START Again ??? )..

Comment #7

Garyw1 wrote:.

It's a personal choice but I have always preferred a power pack thatis seperate and sits on the floor with flash heads that plug into it.It's a lot less weight sitting on top of a light stand that can tipover. If you go with mono heads just be sure you have sturdy stands..

I cannot agree more..

Monolights are very dangerous ... they can be very unstable, easy to knock over, and heavy enough to severely injure someone. (not to mention the replacement/repair cost if damaged).

A friend used to have a setup with a (small) Norman 200 power-pack semi-permanently mounted to the BOTTOM of a lightstand, with a SHORT (no-loss) cord only long enough to reach the head at it's highest elevation..

It was the ULTIMATE solution, it was QUICK since the entire assy (power-pack & head / umbrella) remained semi-permanently attached. All he had to do was spread the support legs and SHOOT..

(NOTE: he did have to plug it into the wall ... BUT .... I would suggest there are rechargeable-battery units where set-up would be even quicker, and SAFER since you would not even have power-cords for clients/children to trip over and get you into a Law-Suit.).

The weight of the power-pack on the very bottom of the stand gave it increased stability; it was almost impossible to knock over since the "head" can be very lightweight in comparison to a mono-light..

Remember the name of the gave with any "remote" shoot is SPEED and SAFETY..

'The moment you think your great is the moment you quit learning.'http://www.gawalters.com.

Thanks for reading .... JoePhoto.

( Do You Ever STOP to THINK and FORGET to START Again ??? )..

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