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I just wondered if the Panasonic Lumix LX2 would be any good to take photos at a sports event like a football match or is it not good enough for sports photography and things requiring a fast shutter speed e.g. wildlife photography as well?.

Cheers for your advice..

John..

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Nope.. If your planning on sports photography you might want to consider a camera/lens that will do it for you. I use a Canon 40D and shoot with a Canon 300mm F4L IS lens for outside sports. For football you want to use a 300mm lens anything shorter is too short and you will find yourself cropping way too much.. I use the 40D because I simply cant afford the 1D mark III yet but with 6.5 frames per second I cant complain. Good luck..

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The Lumix has the speed and lens reach to photograph sports very nicely. What it doesn't have is good low-light performance. If your objective is to shoot sports in daytime, under good lighting conditions, it will work very nicely. At night, though, under lights, you'd be better off with a dslr and appropriate lenses. You could get some worthwhile shots with the Pany under those conditions, but nowhere near as easily as with a properly lensed dslr, and many shots you could get with the dslr you would have to pass up..

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John10001 wrote:.

I just wondered if the Panasonic Lumix LX2 would be any good to takephotos at a sports event like a football match or is it not goodenough for sports photography and things requiring a fast shutterspeed e.g. wildlife photography as well?.

Nope, I like my LX2 but it would be pretty useless at this: it has neither the reach (112mm 4x zoom isn't really enough is it, Will?) or high ISO performance for it, plus the shutter lag would be a problem..

A Panasonic TZ2 might have the reach but the other problems would remain..

Alex.

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Yonno29 wrote:.

Nope.. If your planning on sports photography you might want toconsider a camera/lens that will do it for you. I use a Canon 40D andshoot with a Canon 300mm F4L IS lens for outside sports. For footballyou want to use a 300mm lens anything shorter is too short and youwill find yourself cropping way too much.. I use the 40D because Isimply cant afford the 1D mark III yet but with 6.5 frames per secondi cant complain. Good luck.

Thanks for that guys! Are there any other cameras you would also say would work well for action photography besides the 40D? Anything lower in cost than this or is that the lowest price camera available for photographing sports/wildlife etc?.

Cheers.

John..

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I think most folks on this board will try to steer you towards a DSLR with a nice zoom lens, and, indeed that would be the best way to go if you're serious about it. If you're trying to do things on a budget and will be shooting sports in bright daylight, maybe you should consider one of the 10x or 12x superzoom point and shoot cams. But once the light gets dim, or if you're thinking of shooting sports in a badly lit gym indoors, you might be disappointed with the quality of the shots from the PS. Basically, it comes down to how much you got in your pocket .

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Alex Leach wrote:.

Nope, I like my LX2 but it would be pretty useless at this: it hasneither the reach (112mm 4x zoom isn't really enough is it, Will?) orhigh ISO performance for it, plus the shutter lag would be a problem..

Oops. I'm not familiar enough with the Panys. I was thinking of the Lumix superzooms. Color my face red..

WillWill PrattBarrick Museum, UNLV..

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I'm a newbie and very novice, but thought I would share my overwhelming experience so far. My kids broke the battery door on my Nikon Coolpix 4300-so while dropping it off to be repaired after trying to tape the door shut with electrical tape or duct tape so I could take pics of my son's high school soccer game I started drooling over the Digital SLR's. Luckily my husband was with me and he was going to France to play roller hockey for a week and I think he felt a bit guilty and well of course that worked to my advantage. I've always been intimidated by the changing lenses type camerasmost of us stare in envy at those who seem to know what they are doing, but I thought screw it with a digital SLR at least there is an auto button and the pictures can always be deleted...so I tried the Nikons and the Canons with different lenses at the store. I decided to go with the Nikon D40X. Reasons: the pixels, the body weight, the feel of the controls, etc.

Yet after my first weekend I ended up getting a 70-200mm because I was just not quite getting the shots I wanted across the soccer fields (and hubby was gone for the weekok not a good way to justify the purchase). I wanted to buy the Nikon 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 ED-IF AF-S VR but that was a bit more money than I wanted to spend and was having information overload (with the 8 books from the library, the websites I was scanning, the manuals I was reading and the info I was gathering from my neighbor who has the Pro-setup..

So my points are:I never realized what an addictive hobby this can be..

I never realized what a difference ISO, Aperature, Lenses, etc made. (always kind of relied on "AUTO"..

Using a digital SLR is much less intimidating now-though I am still overwhelmed with the lenses..

I love my Nikon coolpix 4300, but there is no comparison to my Nikon DX 40 as far as pics..

My son's teammates are so impressed and we have some great memories and pictures for our whole team to share..

Definitely spend the money on a digital SLRthere are some great kits available and think of it as an investment...

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Jfinite wrote:.

I think most folks on this board will try to steer you towards a DSLRwith a nice zoom lens, and, indeed that would be the best way to goif you're serious about it. If you're trying to do things on a budgetand will be shooting sports in bright daylight, maybe you shouldconsider one of the 10x or 12x superzoom point and shoot cams. Butonce the light gets dim, or if you're thinking of shooting sports ina badly lit gym indoors, you might be disappointed with the qualityof the shots from the PS. Basically, it comes down to how much yougot in your pocket .

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Nope, dont even put yourself in the situation of a 10x zoom point and shoot if your considering sports you will be throwing money away .. Buy DSLR period!! Point and shoot for sports are just a WASTE of MONEY. Here are some cameras that will do fine for your needs, Canon 20 & 30D (5 frames per second) or even better a 40D (6.5 frames per second).. If you want to step up with the big dogs then a 1D Mark III (10 frames per second) will suit you for sure. I shoot sports and I like the prime lenses over any zoom.. Pic quality is much sharper, I like to zoom with my feet..

Flash is a no no in shooting sports!!..

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If John is asking this kind of basic question about cameras, are you really recommending he go out and spend $5000 on a 1DIII? Surely you're joking..

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Why is it that many people here are always suggesting how much a person can or cannot afford?? Listen, your financial situation differs from this individual. Your not the spouse so please dont tell someone what is too much for that person.. Matter of fact the more logical solution is to detour this person away from a point and shoot camera for sports period.. NOW THATS A WASTE OF MONEY!! With a DSLR all you need to do is buy certain lenses to the photographers needs. If this person has the money he/she will decide what they will do with it!! I cant believe there are so many accountants here.. Stick to your portrait or bird or whatever you shoot, I know it's not sports....

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Jfinite wrote:.

If John is asking this kind of basic question about cameras, are youreally recommending he go out and spend $5000 on a 1DIII? Surelyyou're joking..

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LOL, last time I checked you can buy the Canon 20D for about the range of $400-$600 and the 30D for about $750-$850. The 1D Mark III you can buy one for around $3700.....

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Yonno29 wrote:.

Why is it that many people here are always suggesting how much aperson can or cannot afford?? Listen, your financial situationdiffers from this individual. Your not the spouse so please dont tellsomeone what is too much for that person.. Matter of fact the morelogical solution is to detour this person away from a point and shootcamera for sports period.. NOW THATS A WASTE OF MONEY!! With a DSLRall you need to do is buy certain lenses to the photographers needs.If this person has the money he/she will decide what they will dowith it!! I cant believe there are so many accountants here.. Stickto your portrait or bird or whatever you shoot, I know it's notsports..

Gosh you are good at spending other people's money for them! This is a Beginner's Forum. The OP did not even initially ask for advice as to which other camera. You know absolutely nothing about what usage he will get out of the camera save for his statement:.

"I just wondered if the Panasonic Lumix LX2 would be any good to take photos at a sports event like a football match or is it not good enough for sports photography and things requiring a fast shutter speed ...".

And later the OP says:.

"Are there any other cameras you would also say would work well for action photography besides the 40D? Anything lower in cost than this or is that the lowest price camera available for photographing sports/wildlife etc?".

So what do you do? Wade in with both feet and recommend the 40D then earlier models equivalent to the 40D without even telling him they are superceded models and, in the case of the 20D will certainly have to be bought used - something that many new DSLR buyers are very wary of..

What about a mention of the Canon 400D? (Notice the words "lowest price". That gives us a small clue what HE feels might best suit him don't you think?) If he is going to take sports pictures once a year that would be quiet adequate. Of course a faster shutter would be better. But a DSLR is what is essential. how much depends on a) what you can afford b) what you need to spend balanced against your likely use using some cost benefit analysis..

Oh and by the way there are a few other camera manufactureres out there as well that might warrant a mention. Cheapest new system he is going to get will be a Nikon D40 with maybe a Sigma lf/2.8 lens on it. He could get away with some lesser lens for occasional use in good light..

You know damn all about his financial situation or spending habits except for those words "lowest price". You are the one making assumptions about what he can afford when he has baulked at the costs you mention..

And please do not sneer at other people's chosen photographic subjects..

To the OPJohn,.

If you can afford a fast shutter speed camera that is certainly better for fast sports action. It will increase the rate of "keeper" photographs you get. But almost all entry level DSLR cameras will give you some good shots IF coupled with a good fast lens. Most entry level DSLRs can manage around 2.5-3 frames per second in continuous shooting mode. You pay a fairly hefty price to get up to 5 fps or beyond. If you do not have the cash for both or want to spend that much it would be better to spend more on the lens than the body.



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Comment #12

I think you need to read my two posts above again. You'll see that we agree on just about everything, only I recommended a PS superzoom. I said that a DSLR would get the OP better shots and that there would be limitations to the PS. You do realize that's why there are hundreds of cameras on the market, since one size does not fit all. Sounds like you'd suggest that anyone who wants to take a picture go out and spend a couple thousand dollars..

A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, I sold computers at OfficeMax. We'd get little old ladies coming in who wanted a machine for sending an email every other month and writing their grocery lists. I'd suggest the going $799 special, while we had another associate who'd be pressing her to get the latest $3500 monster. You kind of remind me of him..

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Jfinite wrote:.

I think you need to read my two posts above again. You'll see that weagree on just about everything, only I recommended a PS superzoom. Isaid that a DSLR would get the OP better shots and that there wouldbe limitations to the PS. You do realize that's why there arehundreds of cameras on the market, since one size does not fit all.Sounds like you'd suggest that anyone who wants to take a picture goout and spend a couple thousand dollars..

A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, I sold computers at OfficeMax.We'd get little old ladies coming in who wanted a machine for sendingan email every other month and writing their grocery lists. I'dsuggest the going $799 special, while we had another associate who'dbe pressing her to get the latest $3500 monster. You kind of remindme of him..

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You have a point there.. I am a Used car salesman. =0..

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Chris Elliott wrote:.

Yonno29 wrote:.

Why is it that many people here are always suggesting how much aperson can or cannot afford?? Listen, your financial situationdiffers from this individual. Your not the spouse so please dont tellsomeone what is too much for that person.. Matter of fact the morelogical solution is to detour this person away from a point and shootcamera for sports period.. NOW THATS A WASTE OF MONEY!! With a DSLRall you need to do is buy certain lenses to the photographers needs.If this person has the money he/she will decide what they will dowith it!! I cant believe there are so many accountants here.. Stickto your portrait or bird or whatever you shoot, I know it's notsports..

Gosh you are good at spending other people's money for them! This isa Beginner's Forum. The OP did not even initially ask for advice asto which other camera. You know absolutely nothing about what usagehe will get out of the camera save for his statement:.

"I just wondered if the Panasonic Lumix LX2 would be any good to takephotos at a sports event like a football match or is it not goodenough for sports photography and things requiring a fast shutterspeed ...".

And later the OP says:.

"Are there any other cameras you would also say would work well foraction photography besides the 40D? Anything lower in cost than thisor is that the lowest price camera available for photographingsports/wildlife etc?".

So what do you do? Wade in with both feet and recommend the 40D thenearlier models equivalent to the 40D without even telling him theyare superceded models and, in the case of the 20D will certainly haveto be bought used - something that many new DSLR buyers are very waryof..

What about a mention of the Canon 400D? (Notice the words "lowestprice". That gives us a small clue what HE feels might best suit himdon't you think?) If he is going to take sports pictures once a yearthat would be quiet adequate. Of course a faster shutter would bebetter. But a DSLR is what is essential. how much depends on a) whatyou can afford b) what you need to spend balanced against your likelyuse using some cost benefit analysis..

Oh and by the way there are a few other camera manufactureres outthere as well that might warrant a mention. Cheapest new system he isgoing to get will be a Nikon D40 with maybe a Sigma lf/2.8 lens onit. He could get away with some lesser lens for occasional use ingood light..

You know damn all about his financial situation or spending habitsexcept for those words "lowest price". You are the one makingassumptions about what he can afford when he has baulked at the costsyou mention..

And please do not sneer at other people's chosen photographic subjects..

To the OPJohn,If you can afford a fast shutter speed camera that is certainlybetter for fast sports action. It will increase the rate of "keeper"photographs you get. But almost all entry level DSLR cameras willgive you some good shots IF coupled with a good fast lens. Most entrylevel DSLRs can manage around 2.5-3 frames per second in continuousshooting mode. You pay a fairly hefty price to get up to 5 fps orbeyond. If you do not have the cash for both or want to spend thatmuch it would be better to spend more on the lens than the body.



Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/.

Chris, he didnt mention a so called budget?? Or did he??? I must have missed this!! Oh yeah you know what this person has to spend right?? I forgot to mention that 2 or 3 fps is not recommended for sports!! Yes, I noticed you took offense to the CANON 40D!! LOL!! hahahaha perhaps a touchy subject for you a Nikon user?? So what, I happen to like Nikon but I was giving camera examples that came to mind sorry if I didnt list any Nikons.. What about the 30D you didnt mention a comment about that one.. BTW my point is why spend $500 on a point and shoot when you can step waaaay up for the same money or JUST A BIT MORE.Do you not read what you write.....

To the OPJohn,If you can afford a fast shutter speed camera that is certainlybetter for fast sports action. It will increase the rate of "keeper"photographs you get..

Thank you!! my point given.. Point and shoot = OOOFI am amused by this.... also you wrote:.

If he is going to take sports pictures once a year.

That would be quiet adequate. Of course a faster shutter would bebetter. But a DSLR is what is essential..

How many times is he going to shoot sports?? How do you figure 1 time a year?? Cmon Dood.. Stop trying to mix my words up you are actually agreeing with me only except I hit a nerve with no shout outs to Nikon...Remember we all start out as Newbs so we explore from there...

The OP did not even initially ask for advice as.

To which other camera..

(Might want to re-read).

Oh and here:.

You are the one making.

Assumptions about what he can afford when he has baulked at the costsyou mention..

(He never even responded or baulked about price!!)and here we go again...

Oh and by the way there are a few other camera manufactureres outthere as well that might warrant a mention. Cheapest new system he isgoing to get will be a Nikon D40 with maybe a Sigma lf/2.8 lens onit. He could get away with some lesser lens for occasional use ingood light..

You were wondering why I hadnt mentioned Nikon well lets see here, perhaps this camera only shoots at 2.5 fps?? Not fast enough!! Thats why I mentioned the Canons.. Sorry.

Wanna keep going.. L83r..

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