Hmmm, seems like I found a 30D with a Efs 17-85 lens for about $200 more than the D80 with the 18-135 kit lens. It doesn't say anything more about the lens than "Canon EOS 30D + Efs 17-85", so while they don't say it's IS from what I've found this efs is IS, correct? It's the only copy left though and I'm getting the camera for Christmas, so I'm not sure if I can either get it early or hope they still have it around Christmas. Or even if this would be a better deal than the D80 or not....
I'm a student so this camera will be a combined thing of my savings and a present from parents, I could probably still get them to buy it now, owing them some money and giving it to me for Christmas. This 30D thing is looking like more and more of a good deal, Canon is releasing a EF-S 55-250/4-5,6 IS lens here in Europe in December for a pretty good price (cheaper than the Nikon "equivalents"). Those two should work pretty well together, though yeah they're a bit slow..
Well... opinions on this? Though just waiting for the 18-55mm Nikon VR arriving soon and getting the 55-200 VR later would work too and maybe even be better...
When I had my 20D I started with the 17-85 lens (yes, it's got IS). Came to hate the lens. Not sharp enough. Not fast enough. Viewfinder too dark because aperture is always at least 4.Bought the Sigma 18-50/2.8 instead which was worlds better for me.YMMV..
Hmmm, seems like I found a 30D with a Efs 17-85 lens for about $200more than the D80 with the 18-135 kit lens..
The lens is very average:.
There is a report on the Nikon 18-135 here:.
You might want to consider:D80 + 18-13570-300 VRTamron 18-50 f/2.8 (or Sigma).
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Apparently the Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 VR lens is releasing at the end of November so I'm probably going with the D80 body and that and then getting the 55-200mm f/4-5.6 VR later. Thanks all.....
I have the D80 and it's a great camera. Not sure why you want VR on an 18-55 mm zoom though? If you can get the D80 with the 18 - 70 mm lens I think this is the better choice. You can then add the 70 - 300 VR at a later date..
From reviews, both these lenses are the ones that are preffered over the ones you have. However, the 18-70 is also a little more expensive but has a metal base plate and better build quality..
Well the first vacation I'll take it on will be a skiing and chilling trip in March, so I figure VR will let me take some more handheld shots of snow at dusk and things like that, in other occasions too. I know you can't handhold most night shots, but it'll give me some more leeway at least. Also the 55-200 mm seems to be less than half the weight of the 70-300 one making for easier everyday use..
But I'll definetly check out some reviews of those and see how much they go for here, thanks...
Good point about needing VR for low light in the snow. I'm sitting in the desert so it's something I don't think about!.
The better lens are more heavy (more 'glass') so it's difficult to get away from the weight aspect..
Anyhow, enjoy your purchase, I'm sure you will..