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Shopping for D40-like DSLR with Live Preview
I have a Canon A630, a decent point and shoot camera. In my search for something better I have tried the Nikon D50 and D40, and so far the D40 is my preference. The only problem is it's lack of live preview functionality. As a beginner, it seems like I am giving up a lot of flexibility in accessories if I choose anything other than Canon or Nikon, but they seem to be the only two companies who don't make a cheap (relatively) DSLR without a live preview. Many other companies have 5-8MP DSLRs with live preview (Olympus, Sony, etc), but it seems like Canon and Nikon have reserved that feature for their 10MP+ newer models. Am I missing something?.

PS: I wish I could search the dpreview camera database for live preview cameras, but that isn't an option... whats up with that?..

Comments (14)

The new Digital Rebel XSi has liveview, and should also use SD like the camera you have now does...

Comment #1

Many dSLR users find it to be useless gimmick..

Edvinas..

Comment #2

What do you mean Olympus & Sony do 5-8mp DSLRs with live view?The Oly is 10mp, the Sonys are 10 or 14mp..

Comment #3

Having recently made the switch from a Panasonic FZ7 to a Nikon D40, I feel for you. I didn't think through what I would be giving up, although I'd make the same choice again. Here's some of the reasons:.

I did a lot of table top photography in available light, so I would mount the Panny on a tripod, set the self timer and have both hands free to adjust the objects in front of the lens. Using the LCD made it very easy. Through the lens is somewhat less convenient..

Also, I'm just at the point in needing one kind of vision correction to look through the viewfinder, but reading glasses to see the Nikon screen. Switching back and forth is an extra step I've had to get used to..

Shooting down low to the ground meant crouching with the Panny, but to use the viewfinder to capture violets means down and dirty with the Nikon, so that's a bit of a pain..

I'd never want to give up the D40; the increased size of the sensor alone is terrific. I used to have noise difficulties on cloudy days and late afternoon light with the Pannyneither of which phase the Nikon in the least. Plus now I can do meaningful manual focusing, which was awfully difficult with the Panny..

But live view was a nice option...

Comment #4

Many DSLR users find it useful.My humble photo gallery: http://ntotrr.smugmug.com.

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Comment #5

It becomes particularly useful when the LCD articulates. (Sony Alpha 350/Pana L10). Live view is becoming 'de rigeur' whether die-hards of the old shchool like it or not, and the sooner camera makers get it sorted out to work seamlessly the better..

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Comment #6

There are several good reasons to have a dslr with live preview. heading the list is the ability to see what you are shooting when you get the camera and you in an awkward and difficult position. though most, if not all dslrs can be had with a right angle viewfinder attachment which takes care of the problem somewhat..

There is one VERY BIG DISADVANTAGE. and that is the steadiness of the camera. when you hold a camera with a lcd screen that you have to see to compose your shot you have to hold the camera away fom your face to see the screen. unlike an dslr optical viewfinder which is against you face and supported by your 2 hands and the face, the lcd camera is supported by only your 2 hands and your arms are extended away from you. this means that with an lcd your only camera supoort is the 2 arms and they are supported except at the shoulders..

This means that for anyone coming from a p&s with an lcd screen, and being used to it, that the dslr lcd equipped is now going to give less steady pics that with an optical viewfinder. to anyone coming from a p&s look up how to hold a dslr and why. the why centers around max support and steadyness. if a dslr lcd camera user insists on using a dslr in this way then the pics are going to be blurrier than they have to. this is not to say blurry but blurrier because of the way the dslr is being held. the convienance may be nice, under some conditions, but the pics are going to be blurrier due to improper handholding technique.

An dslr is much heavier thana p&s to begin with and needs all the proper handholding technique it can get. this is not even talking about the weight of a dslr and large telephoto being handheld...

Comment #7

The new Sony's are not quite out yet but there are two new models. The A300 and the A350. They are 10M and 14M respectfully and will both have live view with a screen that moves up and down..

Ron.

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Comment #8

Sparr0 wrote:I have a Canon A630, a decent point and shoot camera. In my searchfor something better I have tried the Nikon D50 and D40, and so farthe D40 is my preference. The only problem is it's lack of livepreview functionality. As a beginner, it seems like I am giving up alot of flexibility in accessories if I choose anything other thanCanon or Nikon,.

Like what? What accessories do you need?.

But they seem to be the only two companies who don'tmake a cheap (relatively) DSLR without a live preview. Many othercompanies have 5-8MP DSLRs with live preview (Olympus, Sony, etc),but it seems like Canon and Nikon have reserved that feature fortheir 10MP+ newer models. Am I missing something?.

Forget about MP. It doesn't really matter at this stage in the game..

Anyways, I have an Oly E-330 with live view and a tilt LCD. It's now going for less than $400. If you're looking for a cheap live view machine, this is it..

Http://www.pbase.com/jfinite..

Comment #9

I find the feature to be extremely useful, but I feel that no camera manufacturers implement it well yet. The D300 and the Canon 40D were difficult to use I think both of them required to be more in a manual environment, and the Olympus felt slow like it had a long delay..

I hope future models will do a better job...

Comment #10

Even if a camera maker implements liveview well, it still has a disadvantage. you have to hold the dslr/lens away from you to see the lcd screen. this means that the camera is only supported by you extended arms. that means more unsteadiness..

Liveview on dslr was originally intended for a awkward or difficult positions in which you cannot get into a position to look through the optical viewfinder easily. it was not intended for every picture. the problem is the people who are coming from the p&s cameras have only used liveview and do not know the qualities of the optical viewfinder..

For my self, I have always used a optical viewfinder, have been doing so for 38yrs, the only way or reason I would use a liveview would be if I could not physically look through the optical viewfinder. besides when the camera is against my face that introduces much more steadiness...

Comment #11

I agree that it is MUCH better not to use a SLR like a p&s, but if someone wants to hold it at arm's length they only need to select a high ISO setting. Real live view on an articulating LCD is good in this way if you want to take tripod-free walk-around shots from low level. And if the camera has image stabilisation then so much the better..

John.Please visit me at:http://www.pbase.com/johnfr/backtothebridgehttp://www.pbase.com/johnfr/digital_dartmoor..

Comment #12

Due out in a few weeks..

Live View with tilt screen. (Note on Canon Live View)built in wireless flash controller (Not on Canon or D60)Built in stablization (not on Nikon or Canon)Auto bracketing for making sure you get the shot in tough lighting (not on D40)14 MP CCD.

Also a A300 version coming with 10 MP.

Ken - Happy A700 Ownerhttp://www.cascadephotoworks.com..

Comment #13

With a swiveling screen, it's very easy to use it to take ground level photos without laying on the ground.My humble photo gallery: http://ntotrr.smugmug.com.

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