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Hey, new to Dpreview forum, so this is a hello/help thread! This has probably been asked before, but I couldn't see a thread so....

I've finally got to grips with the basics of my DSLR, and want to try shooting in RAW, just so I can have a bit more control over my pics. I know I need a RAW converter, but I have no idea what to go for. I was thinking Elements 6.0 as an editing package, but is does this contain RAW converting software too? As I've read that many experienced photographers use Lightroom to convert, then Elements or CS3 to do more editing..

I'm totally new to the in-depth editing side of things, so not entirely sure where to start. I've used CS2 briefly when editing pics for newspaper layouts, but that was generally just resizing, but I know I don't need anything that complex (or expensive). I've heard Aperture 2.0 is amazing as a converter, but overly complex, hence why I was drawn to Elements..

Any help to point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!.

(I run an Intel core based Macbook if that makes any difference to what software I should look at).

Cheers, Andy..

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Geordie Andy wrote:.

Hey, new to Dpreview forum, so this is a hello/help thread! This hasprobably been asked before, but I couldn't see a thread so....

I've finally got to grips with the basics of my DSLR, and want to tryshooting in RAW, just so I can have a bit more control over my pics.I know I need a RAW converter, but I have no idea what to go for. Iwas thinking Elements 6.0 as an editing package, but is does thiscontain RAW converting software too? As I've read that manyexperienced photographers use Lightroom to convert, then Elements orCS3 to do more editing..

I'm totally new to the in-depth editing side of things, so notentirely sure where to start. I've used CS2 briefly when editingpics for newspaper layouts, but that was generally just resizing, butI know I don't need anything that complex (or expensive). I've heardAperture 2.0 is amazing as a converter, but overly complex, hence whyI was drawn to Elements..

Any help to point me in the right direction would be greatlyappreciated!(I run an Intel core based Macbook if that makes any difference towhat software I should look at).

Cheers, Andy.

PS Elements 6 allows you to use the free plugin called Adobe Camera Raw which you can download form the adobe website.

Http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html.

- it allows you to process your raw file and then transfers the result to Elements for completion..

Or, your camera should have come with a raw conversion program on a CD..

Best wishesMike..

Comment #1

I was going to say ... all RAW capable cameras should come with the software required to do some basic editing.spolky..

Comment #2

PS Elements 6 allows you to use the free plugin called Adobe CameraRaw which you can download form the adobe website.

Http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html.

- it allows you to process your raw file and then transfers theresult to Elements for completion..

Or, your camera should have come with a raw conversion program on a CD..

Best wishes.

Mike.

Cheers, that's good to know you can get that from their site..

Yeh, it came with a 30 day trial of Capture NX, but I haven't used it yet as I've only really been shooting Jpegs at the minute. Was going to give it a shot before stumping up for a full version of something, but I must admit I was attracted to Elements from the start! Just trying to find out the best thing for the long run since I'm a bit cash strapped currently..

Sorry if any of these questions are basic, total newbie to this digital editing lark!..

Comment #3

Try Nikon View NX, freeware, (- it is a very basic version of Capture NX) that allows you to convert and do some basic image adjustments. You could then follow up with Photoshop Elements...

Comment #4

If you're looking for something cheap that does everything, try ACDSee10, free 30-day trial.

Http://store.acdsee.com/...en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.78701300spolky..

Comment #5

Geordie Andy wrote:.

Yeh, it came with a 30 day trial of Capture NX, but I haven't used ityet as I've only really been shooting Jpegs at the minute. Was goingto give it a shot before stumping up for a full version of something,but I must admit I was attracted to Elements from the start! Justtrying to find out the best thing for the long run since I'm a bitcash strapped currently..

You didn't say what camera in your first post. Each mfr has different version of RAW..

Most people say that NX gives the best results even though you have to pay extra for it which is annoying (Many mfrs do the same e.g Olympus). If you have no real experience of any PP program consider not only the cost but the learning curve..

I suggest once you have got to grips with the camera you take a few shoots with both RAW and JPEG and then when you have time have ago at NX. There are lots of tutoriials on line..

Cheapest place to buy I know is:.

Http://www.imagemixer.net/.../product_info.php?cPath=43&products_id=105.

I got mine there (I am also in the UK).

Sorry if any of these questions are basic, total newbie to thisdigital editing lark!.

That is what the Beginner's Forum is for!.

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #6

I use these :.

1) .RawTherapee.

An excellent tool in technical terms.http://www.rawtherapee.com.

2). Gimp.

Excellent JPEG editor with capabilities more or less up there with PSCan load RAW, but that's not it's main function.http://www.gimp.org.

3). UFRaw.

Useful, although I rarely touch it these days.One of two methods you can use in Gimp to load raws uses UFRaw..

(1) and (2) are more than you need..

General work-flow should be something like :.

Scan through images quickly to select some for closer inspection. Cull that selected group down to a small number serious effort. For those you can devote some effort. Only practice will tell you when to stop or give up..

If you plan to do RAW conversion you MUST at least roughly calibrate your monitor or LCD. This topic has been covered a lot, so I'd suggest you search for this in the forums..

I'd suggest you use SRGB color space when shooting unless you have a professional need for AdobeRGB. This is because monitors and LCDs can display SRGB images "without much effort" whereas AdobeRGB is covers a slightly increased color range and most ( all ? ) monitors cannot display it properly. When you're more comfortable with the processes involved you could use AdobeRGB if you wish..

StephenG.

Fuji S3 ProPentax K100DFuji S9600Fuji E900PCLinuxOS..

Comment #7

This question helped me too. I recently went with a D300 after years (40+) of film and digital jpegs. My photos are catalogued in Photoshop Elements 5. I like the way Elements displays the catalogue and lets you pull photos up by keywords..

Do Capture NX and/or lightroom do as good a job cataloguing photos? Should I use NX or Lightroom to edit only but "store" photos in elements?.

What do the experienced folks here do?..

Comment #8

Awesome, great food for thought. Yes, forgot to say which camera it was, but you probably worked out that it was a Nikon (D80) since it came with Capture NX!.

I'll definitely try uploading Capture for a bit of practice, see how I get on with it, but might check out the freeware Nikon software. I looked at rawtherapee, but there didn't seem to be a compatible version for Macs (I'm running OS X Tiger rather than Windows through boot camp). But saying that, I'm not all that clued up on computers, so maybe I missed it!.

Cheers for all the responses so far, a great help..

Comment #9

Personally I prefer Capture NX. It's written by Nikon for Nikon's and so arguable gives better results, although at my standard I'm sure the weakest link is 'me'..

Lightroom is designed specifically for cataloguing and work-flow. Of course it also has powerful RAW editing features too. I used the trial version and it is excellent for keeping track of large numbers of photo's. However at 200 it's an expensive way to manage photos...

Comment #10

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