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P&S with no shutter lag? Sony? Nikon?
Hi folks,.

Want:Excellent picture qualityNo (or nearly no) shutter lag (candid and sports photos)Decent Movie mode.

Considering Sony because Consumer Reports recently rated many of their cameras as having low shutter lag. Looking at DSC-H7. Also considering DSC-H3 because it's smaller, but not sure whether it suffers from shutter lag (where does one get this information, it's not part of the camera specs here!).

Tempted by the Nikon D40, I used a friend's D50 and found it incredibly easy to use. But it has no movie mode, and is larger than the DSC-H3 (though smaller than DSC-H7!). Have seen nice reviews of the Coolpix 5100, but again, no info on shutter lag..

Don't need:Over 5mp (we won't be blowing up above 8x10)Interchangeable lenses (we travel light).

Thanks for any advice or help!..

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Imaging Resource has very good information on timings. Look at the Performance tab of each review.http://www.imaging-resource.com/Chris R..

Comment #1

Regarding source of shutter lag time. Within dpreview go to Camera Database, pick your brand, then click on any of the more advanced cameras including most DSLR-like cameras. A whole list of camera facts and characteristics appears. Again click on the camera and a second screen of information appears..

Near the top you should see "1. Introduction". Below #1 scroll down to what is normally about #4 "Timings & Sizes". About the fourth statistical chart there will show you shutter lag. Two times will be time lapse from ready to half-shutterone for full wide and one for full telephoto. Below that is half-shutter to full depression time.



My recommentadion for cameras between $350 and $550 are the Canon S5 and the Panasonic FZ50. The S-5 had half-shutter times of 1/4 to 1/2 second depending on zoom, and a remarkable one-tenth second from half-to full. I think from "not-ready" to full shot was 0.45 second. It also has the flip-and-twist LCD, and a great video capability where you can zoom in and out while shooting movie, with stereo sound.ngk20000..

Comment #2

Shutter lag can be misunderstood. There are two stages, as you probably know, to taking a shot. The first press of the shutter is for AF/AE and this time can vary considerably depending on the shooting conditions and the type of camera (DSLRs are generally faster)..

The second stage or 'pre-focussed' is much faster and, surprisingly, is faster (< 20 mS) on most P&S cameras because they don't have a mirror to move out of the way as a DSLR does (60 to 100mS)..

P&S cameras that are particularly fast on the second 'pre-focussed' stage are Sony, Panasonic, Fuji, Casio and some others. Surprisingly Canon and Nikon P&S are not as fast..

I use a Fuji S6500 in pre-focussed manual focus mode for all of my action shots and for things like fast cars you will always get the shot where you want it - not having to anticipate where it will be using a slower camera..

For 'pre-focussed' shutter lag times check out:.

Http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/S6000/S6000A6.HTM.

For TOTAL shutter lag times for popular P&S cameras check this link:.

Http://www.cameras.co.uk/html/shutter-lag-comparisons.cfm.

Cheers..

Comment #3

Hi folks,.

Thank you for the good insight, and for the pointers to speed sites very hepful!.

Compact form-factor (not the semi-DSLR size) is a requirement. This leaves out many of the fine cameras recommended, unfortunately! Little or no shutter lag is another requirement..

OK, so what suggestions for cameras to look at? The Sony DSC-H3 was my top contendor, but it's reviewed poorly here. Others?.

Cordially,.

Eric..

Comment #4

Ehart wrote:.

Hi folks,.

Thank you for the good insight, and for the pointers to speed sites very hepful!.

Compact form-factor (not the semi-DSLR size) is a requirement. Thisleaves out many of the fine cameras recommended, unfortunately!Little or no shutter lag is another requirement..

OK, so what suggestions for cameras to look at? The Sony DSC-H3 wasmy top contendor, but it's reviewed poorly here. Others?.

I assume you didn't understand the answer that rocklobster gave you? There are TWO components to what is often and incorrectly called "shutter lag" (most P&S cameras don't even HAVE a "shutter"!). First, you must understand that ALL DCs have a two step "shutter" button. The first step, called "half-press" does auto exposure and auto focus (AE/AF). The second step, called "full-press" captures the image. On a P&S camera, half-press is slow, usually something between 1 second and 1/4 second. However, there is little excuse for a P&S being slow to capture the image.



Use the 2nd link that rocklobster gave you to select a camera with a TOTAL delay (both AE/AF and capture) as low as possible. If you learn how to prefocus and hold...then do a full-press to capture the image, you will want to select a camera that has a low capture delay. Use the 1st link to check what the best camera is in this regard..

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #5

Yes, I do understand that there are two types of shutter lags, and I realize that "shutter lag" is a figure of speech in the P&S world. The links that were posted were very helpful..

But.... Help! I am drowning in information, and would love to hear from anyone that has experience with a "fast" compact-format camera, preferably with 6x or higher zoom..

Thanks!.

- Eric..

Comment #6

My P&S camera is a Kodak Z812IS. It is fantastic in terms of no shutter lag. I think the specification is 0.23 seconds which, I believe Kodak or some review I read said is the shortest..

In practical use, I never noticed shutter lag. I *have* noticed shutter lag on lots of other P&S cameras, so I know it is not just that I wouldn't notice. This camera is really a great P&S..

Betty.

K10Dhttp://southpaw.smugmug.com..

Comment #7

Ehart wrote:.

Hi folks,.

Want:Excellent picture qualityNo (or nearly no) shutter lag (candid and sports photos)Decent Movie mode.

It will be helpful if the camera has optical viewfinder. That way LCD lag will be avoided, and at least subject can be tracked at all times, while the camera goes through it's shutter-lag..

Considering Sony because Consumer Reports recently rated many oftheir cameras as having low shutter lag. Looking at DSC-H7. Alsoconsidering DSC-H3 because it's smaller, but not sure whether itsuffers from shutter lag (where does one get this information, it'snot part of the camera specs here!).

In good light, most cameras will perform well. In less light, the problem surfaces and is applicable to most of them..

Tempted by the Nikon D40, I used a friend's D50 and found itincredibly easy to use. But it has no movie mode, and is larger thanthe DSC-H3 (though smaller than DSC-H7!)..

DSLR's have different mechanism of focusing (phase-detection Vs P&S's contrast detection) and focus faster.Have seen nice reviews of.

The Coolpix 5100, but again, no info on shutter lag..

Http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikonp5100/page4.aspNot good for action. Zoom is less too..

Don't need:Over 5mp (we won't be blowing up above 8x10)Interchangeable lenses (we travel light).

My choice will be Canon A720IS overall due to optical viewfinder, good IQ, 6x zoom, compact size, AA batt., followed by A650IS (12MP, swivel LCD).And Panasonic FZ18 among superzooms.http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfz18/page5.asp.

If you wish to have a camera with less full-press lag than nothing better than Casio Ex-V8, which is an ultra-compact!Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612..

Comment #8

I love my little Leica D Lux 3 - But you don't have to spend Leica money you can get it as the Panasonic LX2 - same camera (with different jpg processing).

No real shutter lag (OK it's not a 1ds)...but the reason I love it is because it comes in 16:9 format! So not only do you have the the normal 4:3 format you can also shoot movies in widescreen ).

You can also adjust the movie setting to suit yourself from 30/10fps vga or 30/10fps qvga but in widscreen you have 848 x 480 at 30 or 10 fps...or you can go for the slighly steppy 15fps in HD 1280 x 720 res.

It's another camera to think about..

To see what it can do stills wise have a looksee here.

WARNING LOTS OF PICS!.

Hong Konghttp://forums.dpreview.com/...forums/read.asp?forum=1014&message=26095975.

Aushttp://forums.dpreview.com/...forums/read.asp?forum=1014&message=26095993=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Always give the client a vertical-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-http://grahamsnook.wordpress.com/..

Comment #9

Ajay's point about the EVF is important. I like the V-Lux 1 (Pan. FZ-50) but hate the "reality lag" - with the EVF you are looking at history and odds of missing a fleeting expression are increased...

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