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I am a beginner and what to know the protocol on photo shop, are photos touched up and cropped all the time or is there an unspoken rule about this "fixing"?To me it seems like cheating but what do I know I'm new?..

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I doubt you see many published photos that haven't been through Photoshop or a similar application to greater or lesser extent. There is a bit of a backlash agianst it though, for model shots at least because it makes them look too perfect and drives teenagers crazy trying in vain to achieve that perfection..

There's nothing wrong at all with cropping, adjusting levels and contrast, sharpening, that sort of thing though. We all do it don't we? I certainly do..

It would depend on what you were going to do with the photo as to whether you should alter it more radically. For instance, you wouldn't want to make any changes to a passport photo! On the other hand, you may well decide to tactfully remove or reduce a blemish from a your beloved's face before framing a photo of them....

Androohttp://Androo.smugmug.com..

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Hi Dean.

It's really not much differet than in the darkroom days when we would lighten or darken a image to get either the best out of each negative or our interpretation of the scene when we took the picture..

Ansel Adams was a master at this..

I do think though that no one should lie and say they didn't use photoshop when they did though..

Also kinda like a microwave oven these days. if I were married and said to my wife she were cheating because she use one instead of building a fire I would probably have to "dodge" her for quite some time....lol'The moment you think you're great is the moment you quit learning.'http://www.gawalters.com..

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Andrew Butterfield wrote:.

I doubt you see many published photos that haven't been throughPhotoshop or a similar application to greater or lesser extent. Thereis a bit of a backlash agianst it though, for model shots at leastbecause it makes them look too perfect and drives teenagers crazytrying in vain to achieve that perfection..

There's nothing wrong at all with cropping, adjusting levels andcontrast, sharpening, that sort of thing though. We all do it don'twe? I certainly do..

It would depend on what you were going to do with the photo as towhether you should alter it more radically. For instance, youwouldn't want to make any changes to a passport photo! On the otherhand, you may well decide to tactfully remove or reduce a blemishfrom a your beloved's face before framing a photo of them....

Androohttp://Androo.smugmug.com.

Thanks a mill, firstly I feel a little naive I thought published pics other than fashion had to all be original, however I take it that there is an art to touching up as well. thanks for clearing that up...

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Garyw1 wrote:.

Hi Dean.

It's really not much differet than in the darkroom days when we wouldlighten or darken a image to get either the best out of each negativeor our interpretation of the scene when we took the picture..

Ansel Adams was a master at this..

I do think though that no one should lie and say they didn't usephotoshop when they did though..

Also kinda like a microwave oven these days. if I were married andsaid to my wife she were cheating because she use one instead ofbuilding a fire I would probably have to "dodge" her for quite sometime....lol'The moment you think you're great is the moment you quit learning.'http://www.gawalters.com.

Hi Gary.

Thanks, it puts it into perspective when you put it like that and it would be more than a while LOL.......

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I thought published picsother than fashion had to all be original, however I take it thatthere is an art to touching up as well. thanks for clearing that up..

If you're submitting to a company for publication, there will probably be guidelines on the company's website, so check them out before going mad with Photoshop!.

Androohttp://Androo.smugmug.com..

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Dean14 wrote:.

I am a beginner and what to know the protocol on photo shop, arephotos touched up and cropped all the time or is there an unspokenrule about this "fixing"?To me it seems like cheating but what do I know I'm new?.

I put everything I shoot through Photoshop. I generally adjust levels, sharpen and crop. Sometimes I get rid of blotches. Sometimes I get rid of entire buildings..

It depends on the intent of the photograph. For scientific recording (most of what I do) I try to make the picture look like the subject. Sometimes this takes a lot of work, but it's not dishonest, it's just compensating for the limitations of the medium..

I don't do any photojournalism, but I imagine that it's a similar thing: the intent of the processing is to make the photo as much like the actual subject as it can be..

If you're doing creative work (not my strong suit for sure), I think anything goes. The final image is what counts, whether it resembles the subject or not..

Leonard Migliore..

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It's very difficult to get a photo perfect out of the camera. Cropping, altering contrast / brightness / slight colour casts etc. are often necessary. Digicams tend to produce slightly 'soft' mages which need a little sharpening to make nice prints, especially larger sized prints. This sort of enhancement is routine and necessary to make the best of what you have and compensate for any errors..

Larger amounts of processing ( like the famous example recently when Keira Knightley was given a digitally enhanced chest on a movie poster to make her look less skinny) are a different issue....

Best wishesMike..

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All photos get converted by a raw converter and then post processed. You have two choices. One, let the camera's engineers do it in the camera with their post processing software, or do it yourself using photoshop or another editor. Either way, it's the same thing. I prefer to do it myself using Photoshop..

It can't be "fixing" or "cheating" because it has to be done. The in-camera software does sharpening, levels, whitebalance and a lot more during J-Peg processing. If you shoot in RAW, none of those things have been done. It's left for you to do it to taste out of the camera. One way or another processing has to occur. People who claim to be "Purists" are ignoring the fact that all this post is going on in the camera.



In the old days, we shot a slide or negative then went in the darkroom and created our image. Today, we take a RAW image file into our digital darkroom and do the same thing. It's just not as dark or messy..

Cheers, Craig..

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