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Product quality in sigma lenses.
I am considering the sigma APO 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG MACRO HSM lens.I was told by a sales man that this product's quality varies depending on whereit was manufactured. This seem unlikely. Has anyone heard of such a thing?.

Thanks,Robert..

Comments (16)

Sounds like the salesman is trying to upsell you. All lenses can have varying quality including Canon, disregarding where it was manufactured..

The lens was given 3 1/2 stars at Photozone which is a decent rating; here is what was said:.

"The Sigma AF 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO HSM DG proved to be a worthy although not stellar representative of it's league with quite high performance figures in most categories. At 70mm and 135mm easily matched and even excelled the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 USM L whereas it was somewhat worse at 200mm except at medium aperture settings. Both distortions as well as vignetting are nothing to worry about. The build quality is very impressive. The lens has been discontinued in the meanwhile."Maybe the writing on the wall could use a little revisionShane Koyczan (Slam Poet)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f02Q5IFoyKw&NR=1..

Comment #1

To many (including me)... lens is NUMBER ONE!.

From my experience... I would rather invest in Quality Glass... I bought about 6 third party lenses... and i'm NOT happy....

I should have saved the money and bougth canon L lens at that time....

Look now, I ended up buying canon L lenses!.

Again, "LENS IS NUMBER ONE!".

Canon 10d + canon L lens = great images!!canon 20d + canon L lens = great images!!canon 40d + canon L lens = great images!!.

And so on....

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Comment #2

There are some excellent 3rd party "L" quality lenses out there, but what surprises me is how few read the reviews of lenses. Just recently, some one posted how disappointed they were in the Sigma 30 lens; I'm not surprised since it didn't get a very good review (there are some excellent Sigma lenses available)..

The "standard" bible for lens reviews is Photozone, the first place I always look. If I am purchasing a lens, I read as many reviews of it that I can. There are Canon, Nikon, Sigma, Tamron, Tokina lenses to avoid like the plague, and they all make some excellent ones. You don't need to purchase all Canon L lenses to get L quality; one example is the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 ultra wide lens just new on the market - Photozone gives it a sterling review claiming it is the best ultra wide zoom available for a Canon, including Canon lenses. When you consider it's cost at $570 at Adorama, not a bad price for excellence.Maybe the writing on the wall could use a little revisionShane Koyczan (Slam Poet)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f02Q5IFoyKw&NR=1..

Comment #3

The salesman is either lying to you about the quality varying depending on where the lens is made, or he is very ignorant. All Sigma lenses are made in their factory in Japan. No Sigma lenses, cameras, or flashes are made anywhere but in Japan, in one place. There may be variations in quality in Sigma lenses, but it is not dependent on where it's made because they're all made in the same factory.My humble photo gallery: http://ntotrr.smugmug.com.

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Comment #4

I do agree to read the reviews... no questions....

Depending on what level you want to achieve in photography... matters a lot....

When I started, I had no idea that i'm going to climb into pro level in photography... and I really regretted the fact that I bought 3rd party lenses....

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Now, I can suggest to the person who is beginning... to really look at this wisely....

Ask yourself these questions....

1. what level of skills do you want to accomplish in photography?.

2. do you plan to make extra income out of photography?or a part-time job out of this wonderful line of skill....

3. do you have ART in your blood? are you somehow artistic? do you like arts?.

4. also... are you at least a little tech savvy enough to handle hardwareand software work and problems?.

5. do you want to take pro quality portraits, headshots, fashion shots, etc...in the future? even as a hobby... this is a great skill to learn!.

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Now let's go back to the OP's concern....

If you are earning good income... and you are saving at least $500 a month (all expenses taken care of already: house payment, cars, gas, food, insurance, investments, bills, etc...).

Again, "LENS IS # 1"....

NOW, if you can not afford it now, how about save up for another 6 months... or so....

The bottom line... you will NEVER regret a quality lens purchse!.

Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS = $1,575sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 II EX = $800.

How about save $775 more and you'll NEVER, EVER regret this purchase!.

OTHERWISE....

Sigma is good enough... but maybe you'll regret this after few months... ;-(.

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I spent about $1,600 on third party lenses already and i'm NOT happy at all with these lenses!.

I should have bought a canon 24-70 f2.8L lens! and would have saved $400!.

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Rsn48 wrote:.

There are some excellent 3rd party "L" quality lenses out there, butwhat surprises me is how few read the reviews of lenses. Justrecently, some one posted how disappointed they were in the Sigma 30lens; I'm not surprised since it didn't get a very good review (thereare some excellent Sigma lenses available)..

The "standard" bible for lens reviews is Photozone, the first place Ialways look. If I am purchasing a lens, I read as many reviews of itthat I can. There are Canon, Nikon, Sigma, Tamron, Tokina lenses toavoid like the plague, and they all make some excellent ones. Youdon't need to purchase all Canon L lenses to get L quality; oneexample is the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 ultra wide lens just new on themarket - Photozone gives it a sterling review claiming it is the bestultra wide zoom available for a Canon, including Canon lenses. Whenyou consider it's cost at $570 at Adorama, not a bad price forexcellence.Maybe the writing on the wall could use a little revisionShane Koyczan (Slam Poet)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f02Q5IFoyKw&NR=1..

Comment #5

This forum is running a series of tests on 70-200mm lenses. So far the Nikon and one of the two Canons have been tested. Perhaps you should wait until the Sigma test is published..

The salesman is wrong, as already pointed out..

The just discontinued Sigma 70-200 disappointed even Sigma, which is replacing it with the model II..

BAK..

Comment #6

I just bought a Sigma APO 150 mm Macro F2.8 lens after running numerous tests on it with several other similar lenses. I also own the Sigma 10-20mm lens. I can honestly say the quality of both lenses are excellant, others may disagree, their opinion. I also own numerous Nikon Nikkor lenses, and feel the quality of some of thoses are questionable, and they're a major manufacture of lenses..

Third party leneses have come along way since when I started out in the late 70's. I never thought I would own another Sigma lens after prior experiance with them but they have changed..

The bottom line is what do you think of the images created from the lens? Ask your dealer if you can try it out in the store. If I or someone else tells you it's the best lens available, it may be for what we use it for but could be the worst for you.Sometimes it's better to buy top of the line originally because when you "settle" for something now, then buy the "better" quality product later it will cost more after all is said and done. Remember thats just my opinion and everyone has an opinion, but again I say that Sigma and Tamaron both have come along way from when they first started making lenses!..

Comment #7

Yes, it is true, even with the big guys, Nikon, Canon..

David Myles..

Comment #8

The Sigma 150mm f2.8 is excellent but the 70-200 Sigma isn't. I would suggest that the OP consider the Canon 70-200 f4 which is excellent and costs around the same. You lose one f stop in speed but with ever increasing ISO's, you really aren't losing all that much..

The Canon 70-200 f4 L is a better lens than the Sigma one; I don't know what the new Sigma lens (70-200) will be like, but they have their work cut out for them as Canon owns this zoom range.Maybe the writing on the wall could use a little revisionShane Koyczan (Slam Poet)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f02Q5IFoyKw&NR=1..

Comment #9

This is the info I wanted..

Thanks for all your comments...

Comment #10

I am still learning here.The DG in sigma APO 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG MACRO HSM isconfusing. Do I get a F2.8 on a camera with a cropped sensor?.

Thanks,Robert..

Comment #11

Have you even tried to read a review of this lens? Why purchase a lens without reading reviews of it? So many people don't read reviews then sing the blues when the lens doesn't pan out. Read the reviews to find out if the 70-200 is a digital camera (DC) lens or not.Maybe the writing on the wall could use a little revisionShane Koyczan (Slam Poet)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f02Q5IFoyKw&NR=1..

Comment #12

I am having trouble finding a review ofthe sigma APO 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG MACRO HSM..

On this website the older model of the sigma was used to compare the cannon 70-200mm F2.8 L is, a lens that sells for a thousand dollars more..

I would like a 70-200mm F2.8..

My confusion right now is what does the DG mean.The sigma website seems vague.How can a lens act the same for a camera with a cropped sensoras it does for an slr?.

I feel like I am missing something basic..

Thanks,Robert..

Comment #13

I've done more homework on your question than you have, thus I am not answering you, forcing you to do your homework, however here are some links:.

Http://www.photozone.de/...70-200mm-f28-ex-apo-hsm-dg-lab-test-reportreview.

Http://www.fredmiranda.com/...hp?product=102&sort=7&cat=37&page=3.

Http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/352/cat/31.

If I haven't picked up on the correct Sigma lens, then goggle and follow the leads.Maybe the writing on the wall could use a little revisionShane Koyczan (Slam Poet)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f02Q5IFoyKw&NR=1..

Comment #14

I totally agree. I also own the Sigma 150 f2.8 and the 10-20 and they are absolutely beautiful lenses. Very sharp and great build quality..

Cheers, Craig..

Comment #15

DG is Simga-speak for a lens that has been "optimized for digital cameras" which in turn means there are better anti-reflection coatings ont he lens elements because the light bouncing off the sensor is different from the light that used to bounce off film when the shutter is open..

RE>On this website the older model of the sigma was used to compare the cannon 70-200mm F2.8 L is, a lens that sells for a thousand dollars more.<.

No. You are wrong. The comparison is with the model II..

Your question about how can a lens act the same makes no sense. Perhaps you can rephrase this and try again..

BAK..

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