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So, I'm struggling with masks. I'm trying to blend 3 or more exposures into one (which I wrote about in my last thread)http://forums.dpreview.com/...forums/read.asp?forum=1002&message=25215985.

I've seen multiple suggestions for how to do this, and most involve using a mask, then copying the layer into the mask. It's supposed to turn into a black and white pic in the mask, but I'm not able to copy a layer into the mask. I'm thinking either I'm doing it wrong, or I need a newer version of PS..

I've searched through all the tutorials and the manual for Elements 5.0 and can't find any real answers for blending multiple exposures with masks, or any other way. Any suggestions?L..

'Every time I look through a viewfinder I can sense His presence and perfection.' -Bill Fach..

Comments (10)

To paste into a Layer Mask, the Layer Mask must be selected for editing and must be visible. I don't have Elements, but in full Photoshop this is done one of two ways:.

- Using the Channels palette, select the Layer Mask channel; make the Layer Mask channel visible; make the RGB channel invisible. You can now paste..

- Or, there's a shortcut using the Layers palette - simply Alt-click the Layer Mask thumbnail..

That's in full Photoshop, but I imagine it's probably similar in Elements. Worth a try anyway...

Comment #1

Steve Balcombe wrote:.

To paste into a Layer Mask, the Layer Mask must be selected forediting and must be visible. I don't have Elements, but in fullPhotoshop this is done one of two ways:.

- Using the Channels palette, select the Layer Mask channel; make theLayer Mask channel visible; make the RGB channel invisible. You cannow paste..

PSE5 does not have channels, thus no Layer Mask Channel..

- Or, there's a shortcut using the Layers palette - simply Alt-clickthe Layer Mask thumbnail..

That's in full Photoshop, but I imagine it's probably similar inElements. Worth a try anyway..

You have to use a "trick" in PSE, but I don't remember what it is at the moment. Perhaps Conchita will pick up?.

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #2

Chuxter wrote:.

Steve Balcombe wrote:.

To paste into a Layer Mask, the Layer Mask must be selected forediting and must be visible. I don't have Elements, but in fullPhotoshop this is done one of two ways:.

- Using the Channels palette, select the Layer Mask channel; make theLayer Mask channel visible; make the RGB channel invisible. You cannow paste..

PSE5 does not have channels, thus no Layer Mask Channel..

That method isn't available then, but the Alt-click method below is, as I said, worth a try..

I shouldn't be answering this as I don't have the software, but two hours have passed and nobody else has answered so you'll have to make do with my guesswork .

- Or, there's a shortcut using the Layers palette - simply Alt-clickthe Layer Mask thumbnail..

That's in full Photoshop, but I imagine it's probably similar inElements. Worth a try anyway...

Comment #3

I'm no expert. I never have used Masks to blend multiple layers with PSE5. I do it the dumb way...just erase the parts of each layer that I don't want. I understand that using masks is better, but I too can't figure out how to do it..

The Adobe Help Center says, " When the layer mask (right thumbnail) attached to an adjustment layer is completely white, the adjustment effect is applied to all underlying layers. If you dont want to apply the effect to certain portions of the underlying layers, paint the corresponding area of the mask with black. When attached to a fill layer, the mask defines the filled-in area in the fill layer.".

You might try:.

1) Layer => New Adjustment Layer => Levels (or Brightness/Contrast, Hue/Saturation, or Gradient Map).

2) Alt-click on the right thumbnail in the Layers Palette..

3) Paint some black where you want the mask to restrict blending..

4) Double-click on the left thumbnail and adjust "stuff"..

Steve Balcombe wrote:.

Chuxter wrote:.

Steve Balcombe wrote:.

To paste into a Layer Mask, the Layer Mask must be selected forediting and must be visible. I don't have Elements, but in fullPhotoshop this is done one of two ways:.

- Using the Channels palette, select the Layer Mask channel; make theLayer Mask channel visible; make the RGB channel invisible. You cannow paste..

PSE5 does not have channels, thus no Layer Mask Channel..

That method isn't available then, but the Alt-click method below is,as I said, worth a try..

I shouldn't be answering this as I don't have the software, but twohours have passed and nobody else has answered so you'll have to makedo with my guesswork .

- Or, there's a shortcut using the Layers palette - simply Alt-clickthe Layer Mask thumbnail..

That's in full Photoshop, but I imagine it's probably similar inElements. Worth a try anyway..

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #4

I haven't done this for a while, but I think that this is how you do it. The tricky part is getting a layer mask in PSE which I will deal with later on..

In principle what you do is to get the three exposures onto three different layers (which I will call the exposure layers) and erase or mask the sections of each layer that you do not want to use. For example, if you want the sky from one layer, you erase/mask everything except the sky on that layer and put it on the top. If you want the foreground from another layer, you erase everything except the foregound and put that layer in the middle. You leave the bottom layer untouched so that the background shows through..

Erasure, as another poster has said is fairly is fairly straight forward - just erase those parts of each layer that you don't need. However, this is less reversible than using a layer mask..

You can only get a layer mask in PSE with an adjustment layer, but you can group an adjustment layer with an "exposure" layer so that the layer mask applies to the exposure layer. You do this by inserting an adjustment layer below the exposure layer that you want to mask - it doesn't matter what kind of adjustment layer you choose because you won't be making any adjustments, just using it's layer mask. Then select the exposure layer above, go to the layers menu and choose "Group with previous". A little arrow will appear on the exposure layer indicating that it is now grouped with the adjustment layer. You can now paint on the adjustment layer's layer mask and it will be applied to the exposure layer..

Paint in black to mask part of the layer, or make a selection, feather it, and fill with black. To can reverse any mistakes paint in white..

I hope that this works.Chris R..

Comment #5

LFitch wrote:.

So, I'm struggling with masks. I'm trying to blend 3 or moreexposures into one (which I wrote about in my last thread).

I'm not sure about your particular concern, but the best book about PE 5 I've seen is Scott Kelby's _The Photoshop Elements 5 book for Digital Photographers_ (ISBN 0-321-47673-5). He gives detailed directions for duplicating the use of masks and similar Photoshop methods in Elements. See if your local library system has a copy. I suspect that you'll want to get your own when you've looked it over..

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Comment #6

I guess I never thought of deleting part of a layer to manipulate the results. I'm still going to try to master the masking though!.

I thank you for this very detailed description, this is tons more helpful then anything I've found online. I might also look into that book the last poster suggested. Thanks for all the posts!L..

'Every time I look through a viewfinder I can sense His presence and perfection.' -Bill Fach..

Comment #7

Elements has a GREAT forum, unlike Photoshop! Great Moderators, Great people that go out of their way to help! Have seen many discussions about Masks, here's the link, I bet they've got your answer!!!.

Http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/forum/.

PS: I have elements 5 and got the discounted price for CS3 Photoshop and purchased it, as many from the forum did and we still stay current and ask our Photoshop questions there!..

Comment #8

Thanks for the website, I'll check it out!L..

'Every time I look through a viewfinder I can sense His presence and perfection.' -Bill Fach..

Comment #9

Chris I wanted to let you know your method of manual HDR blending was a success! I'm so very excited since I've been trying to do this for a couple months, thanks for your help!!L..

'Every time I look through a viewfinder I can sense His presence and perfection.' -Bill Fach..

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