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Panasonic PZ50, best IQ NON DSLR?
The best way to answer all these IQ questions may be for you to go judge for yourself by actually looking at images and seeing the quality for yourself. It will show what the camera is capable of. The rest is up to what you are capable of..

Here are a couple galleries, there are probably a lot more..

Http://www.flickr.com/cameras/panasonic/dmc-fz50/.

Http://www.pbase.com/cameras/panasonic/lumix_dmc_fz50.

Stu (D50, E510, TZ4)http://www.flickr.com/photos/stujoe/.

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Comments (8)

Trying to compare apples to oranges to whatever..

You have in your shortlist a TZ-5, then a Canon G9, then an FZ-18. You discarded the Fuji big one because you said it was too expensive and not a DSLR. Well, now the FZ-50 is nearly the price of a two lens kit Oly 410 DSLR..

Either you're taking a stroll around the whole camera show and trying out everything even they are not the same basis - nothing wrong in that - we love to fiddle and kick tyres too - or you're getting yourself totally, totally confused about what camera you want.

If you are just kicking tyres, fine..

If you're getting mental angst, don't. You have to draw a line in the sand before you can make any decision..

Anandahttp://anandasim.spaces.live.com/http://olympuse510.wikispaces.com/http://picasaweb.google.com/AnandaSim/http://www.flickr.com/photos/32554587@N00/..

Comment #1

Like the last poster said "you will drive yourself bonkers"..

Forget - almost IQ - worry about your own IQ and more importantly EQ - emotional quotient..

If you want a camera to allow you to do what you want - the the DSLR is a great answer. Those pocket camera are often for "spec collectors" not "people who wish to make photographs"..

So, what do you want to do, collect specs or make the finest photos that maybe would even be attractive to a client?.

Yes, DSLRs are sometimes cheaper than non DSLRs..

Buy something that will let you see what talent you have..

Like with cars, it's the nut that holds the wheel..

Peter.

Persuasive Marketing Systems -inc Copywriting, Design & Photography..

Comment #2

I'm non in the pro-sumer scene any more, but I've used one and liked it a lot. It's no DSLR in terms of shutter speeds or focusing and certainly not in low light, but overall, it's at the tops of my list for a new cam like that..

There are some cheaper DSLR combos out there, but they don't come close to comparing when you put a typical kit lens on them compared to the built in lens on the FZ. It's range and lens quality put it at the top of the list..

Pauw wrote:.

I've read it may be, is it true?.

Tim.

NW Columbus/Dublin, Ohiohttp://www.pbase.com/pdqgp..

Comment #3

Tim Lauro wrote:.

There are some cheaper DSLR combos out there, but they don't comeclose to comparing when you put a typical kit lens on them comparedto the built in lens on the FZ. It's range and lens quality put itat the top of the list..

Good to hear that. I too have some fav point and shoots - in fact all the point and shoots I have, they are my favs..

Watch out for the priviso though - any point and shoot at ISO 400 vs a DSLR at ISO 400. The Fuji's might make some semblance of noise reduction, haven't seen many others put up much style at that ISO..

Anandahttp://anandasim.spaces.live.com/http://olympuse510.wikispaces.com/http://picasaweb.google.com/AnandaSim/http://www.flickr.com/photos/32554587@N00/..

Comment #4

Tim Lauro wrote:.

I'm non in the pro-sumer scene any more, but I've used one and likedit a lot. It's no DSLR in terms of shutter speeds or focusing andcertainly not in low light, but overall, it's at the tops of my listfor a new cam like that..

There are some cheaper DSLR combos out there, but they don't comeclose to comparing when you put a typical kit lens on them comparedto the built in lens on the FZ..

Hm, and I though E410+2kit lens should handily beat FZ50..

It does not have IS, and you have to switch lenses...but you have much more flexibility..

It's range and lens quality put itat the top of the list..

Pauw wrote:.

I've read it may be, is it true?.

Tim.

NW Columbus/Dublin, Ohiohttp://www.pbase.com/pdqgp..

Comment #5

I don't know much about the E410..

DonEsteban wrote:.

Tim Lauro wrote:.

I'm non in the pro-sumer scene any more, but I've used one and likedit a lot. It's no DSLR in terms of shutter speeds or focusing andcertainly not in low light, but overall, it's at the tops of my listfor a new cam like that..

There are some cheaper DSLR combos out there, but they don't comeclose to comparing when you put a typical kit lens on them comparedto the built in lens on the FZ..

Hm, and I though E410+2kit lens should handily beat FZ50.It does not have IS, and you have to switch lenses...but you havemuch more flexibility..

It's range and lens quality put itat the top of the list..

Pauw wrote:.

I've read it may be, is it true?.

Tim.

NW Columbus/Dublin, Ohiohttp://www.pbase.com/pdqgp.

Tim.

NW Columbus/Dublin, Ohiohttp://www.pbase.com/pdqgp..

Comment #6

I agree. I actually went from an Olympus DSLR to the FZ50 and couldn't be happier..

The higher ISO performance between the older, non-IS Oly DSLRs and the FZ50 is SCARILY similar. Definitely close enough that it's not worth carrying around the DSLR bulk..

I can leave the house with my big camera bag with the FZ50, LW-55 wideangle adapter (giving me 24.5mm), Olympus TCON-17 teleconverter (giving me 704mm), and rather large Vivitar 285HV flash (which quickly corrects any "low light" issues), or I can also just put my FZ50 in it's form-fitting camera case and just take it along and still have tremendous range..

It's going to take one heck of a DSLR to out-feature my now rather "old" model FZ50. If Panasonic comes out with a FZ60, that will likely prolong the move back to DSLR even more..

ChrisEffzeeone now has a Effzeefifty!(Gear in profile)..

Comment #7

DonEsteban wrote:.

Hm, and I though E410+2kit lens should handily beat FZ50.It does not have IS, and you have to switch lenses...but you havemuch more flexibility..

Tim Lauro wrote:.

I don't know much about the E410..

I have experience with a non-IS Olympus DSLR (the E-500 + 2-lens kit). Admittedly the E-410 has a different sensor (Panasonic instead of Kodak), which does make a bit of difference. However, Olympus DSLRs (actually all Fourthirds format cameras) are not known for their low light, higher ISO performance, which is what most people are looking for in a DSLR..

As for flexibility, I've always disagreed with DSLRs being more flexible because they are only more flexible at a significantly higher cost (the flexibility typically comes from additional lenses which typically cost big $$$), and even then they aren't always more flexible. What can be more flexible than a camera with a 35-420mm lens with true full-time liveview on a tilt/swivel LCD and TTL flash capability? Buy $300 worth of converters (both wide and tele), and you get a range of 24.5-704mm. The FZ50 also offers a zoom and focus ring on a rigid lens barrel. A non-telescoping lens barrel is something that most DSLRs don't even offer, especially not at the focal range of the FZ50. No sensor dust worries for me..

Image quality is about the only factor that DSLRs beat point-n-shoots hands down, but even then IQ is a matter of perspective, opinion, and tolerance. I get superb IQ with my FZ50, and among my friends and family (some of whom own DSLRs) I am more often than not the go-to photographer for group events. A perfect example is a recent multi-family trip to Disney MGM Studios for a Star Wars anniversary event. We had plenty of group pictures with all the kids and the various Star Wars and Disney characters, and at the end of the vacation when the families were reviewing all the photos, I ended up giving my FZ50 group photos to every single DSLR owner (as well as all the pocket camera and cell phone users) because their shots did not turn out as well even with "DSLR IQ". Some of my shots were just better composition, but I have to even give a lot of that credit to the FZ50 because of the versatile tilt/swivel LCD allowing me to frame the shot. A good example of this was a group of 3-4 foot tall kids standing next to 7-foot tall Chewbacca.

It was just a better shot one that I couldn't have gotten with a DSLR without laying on the ground or something equally drastic. I was also able to video record the full Indiana Jones Stunt Show and then put it on a DVD for each of the families that we went with, which all the kids greatly appreciated being able to watch it as many times as they wanted. There's no video mode with a DSLR..

To each their own, and I know plenty of people who are very happy with the E410/E420, but for versatility, I'll go with my FZ50 every time. My family and friends who own DSLRs are starting to see that, too..

ChrisEffzeeone now has a Effzeefifty!(Gear in profile)..

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