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I love Medifast much more better than Nutrisystem anyday. I am losing weight much faster on this plan and I AM NOT DOING IT 100%. Its nice to not have to go and work out 5 times a week just to see results like you need to on Nutristystem..

I do plan on going to the gym once I get my body fat down a bit more. So all you worried about havint to do this 100%, no worries, it works regardless..

Comments (73)

So Far I have lose 12.5 lbs. and I have 3 more days to reach my 4th. week. This is great and I am not disappointed cause I did not start with having too much to lose, but I am thinking of resetting my goal as I get use to weighing less and eating less..

Comment #1

Well good for you. I know this post is gonna get slammed with people telling you not to do what you're doing. So let me be the first to say that whatever you're doing is working for you and thats all that matters.

Comment #2

Slamming her telling her what she's doing wrong? No.

What it should get slammed for isnt that shes doing what shes doing, it's that shes pontificating that it works regardless of whether one follows the rules, which is a ridiculous message to send, especially to new people struggling with the plan..

Comment #3

How you choose to work your program IS your option, of course, but advising others that the program works 'regardless' of whether they follow it 100% or not isn't quite accurate. When a person stays 100% OP all the time, he is guaranteed to reach goal. When he doesn't, there is no guarantee of reaching goal at all. Many of us start this program with a lot of weight to lose & feeling quite hopeless about our ability to get the job done. When we commit ourselves to the lack of choice with the 5/1, we treat the program as rehab for food junkies. That reels us in & gets us ON track to new eating behaviors.



Many of us have manipulated food plans on a regular basis & we found ourselves battling a constant crisis with yo yo dieting. Medifast is the one program that can change all that, for good, when we stay committed to the 5 packets & the 1 weighed & measured L&G meal.

Again, how you choose to work your program is your option & if you are seeing results in spite of not following it 100%, that's great. I'm just giving my perspective for others who may read this & think it's fine for them to work the program partially. In many, many cases, half measures get us nowhere. The program rules DO apply to all of us, no matter how much or how little we have to lose; bad eating habits affect all of us with weight problems..

Best of luck on your journey, no matter HOW you choose to take it..

Hugs.

Chris.

Comment #4

Hi girls, so glad to read that you both are happy with medifast. I started 2 weeks ago and have lost 7 lbs.. I , too, am coming in from Nutrisystem, and also, I think it is a speedier plan to weight loss. I find that you have to exercise alot to lose weight with Nutrisystem too.. I had been a member since 1996, and lost only 30 lbs, and I am talking with women at work and they have lost 30 in 3 months..Eileen.

Comment #5

Thank you for the insights for staying on plan 100%.....

Comment #6

Well what I am saying is that NO one really does it 100%. NO one measures the same eactly. Its like if you forget a fat or not enough veggies by not adding eactly the right amount or forget a Medifast meal to not worry about because it still works regardless. So anyone who slams me is not taking this as a possitive thing.

People do not have to worry as much as they may and get all stressed out. This plan works, period..

All I am saying is that I have forgot a meal or did not eat enough meat or veggies and I am still losing and feeling good..

Comment #7

Gotta go with eagletrub on this one (did I actually just type that? ). I'm not even a 100% plan follower and I feel like I need to point out that "not 100% = not 100% effective." Yes, you'll lose weight I've certainly been doing fine but you will not lose AS MUCH weight as you could if you were 100%. I'm pretty sure I could be down another 5 or 10 lbs by now if I hadn't chosen the scenic route. I did choose it and I'm totally fine with that; but what you will never hear me say is that my "not quite 100%" method of doing Medifast is as effective as 100% compliance would have been..

Also? I wouldn't post where a bunch of newbies are trying to learn the plan and just say "The plan works whether you do it right nor not!" without a laundry list of caveats so they know that what I do isn't what I recommend for everyone else..

Comment #8

Well, Diana this debate goes on and on at this site. Your fact is wrong. MANY "ones" do it 100%. I did it, lost 51 pounds and 33 inches. I did transition 100% and am maintaining 100% too. Some days I would run out of time to eat and have to prepare two meals at once, but I got in all my 5 meals..

You have very little to lose and apparently you are not a food addict. Perhaps you have a healthy relationship with food at your age. Most of us here, on MF, if we are honest with ourselves, are struggling with food addiction/obsession. That must not be the case with you, and for that you can be thankful..

We all weigh and measure food the same. All it takes is a food scale, some measuring cups and spoons. Simple..

Enjoy the program, as you work it your way. But please, please, don't tell newbies who have hundreds of pounds to lose that they can cheat off plan and still have Medifast work for them. They will never make it to goal and will be binging on a half gallon of ice cream or a huge bag of chips by the end of the week..

You can have excuses, or success, but you must choose which you want. You can't have both..

Elizabeth.

Comment #9

Wrong. I did and still do. I measure and weight everything in grams for veg and ounces for lean. I follow the plan as it's written. I never do anything to doctor up or change the Medifast foods. So I am a living breathing contradiction to what you posted here.

I'm glad what you're doing works for you, but as a slow loser there was no way I could not follow the plan 100% and still lose weight. When I was on Nutrisystem I gained weight. 5 pounds the first month. And I do exercise... I belly dance and trust me, that's a thorough work out as it uses your whole body.



Comment #10

Be careful...this sort of post can get you blasted by the Medipolice..

Recently I had to have some medical testing done at the Mayo Clinic. I had to fast a couple of different times, take multiple laxitives and had 6 enimas in one morning. I went through the mill that week of testing and it left me HUNGRY! I wanted to know if I was going to go over plan which was the best food to eat. Good grief, I caught heck! NO ONE measures every lean and green perfectly, drinks every last ounce of water every day, brings their scale, measuring cup and measuring spoons out to every meal. And we certainly don't plan on a half a dozen enemas and having to do medical fasts that leave us ravenous. Being on plan 100 percent is best (and I'm trying harder to do that) but if you have to vary it some, than just do it knowing you could lose weight more slowly or it could actually make you MORE hungry to eat more (as what happened to me).



Congratulations on your success..

Comment #11

Kiki, you know how I feel about finding your own path on MF; but your statement below is not true. There are people who follow the plan 100% as written. Not as many people do it as who *say* they do it; but there is definitely a significant portion of people on this board who are exactly and totally 100% on plan. I am not one of them, nor will I ever be; but even if I think differently, I admire people who can stay 100% on plan and it's not cool to imply that because we don't no one can. Like I said in a previous thread; the best thing we can all do is be happy for those that lose weight; be sad for those who are struggling, and then do what we find we can and should do. Everyone else's on plan/off plan status is kind of irrelevant WITH THE EXCEPTION that we really need to be vigilant in making sure that when we do something off plan we underscore for the newbies that it is off plan.

I think that's the entire reason I'm even posting on this thread..

Also? I see where this thread is going so I will just announce right now that this is *my* last post! Not out of anger or bitterness; but just because I know how "one last comment" can become "Well, I meant one *more* last comment...." and so on and so forth. I promise not to be the one to keep this going forever! I swear!! .

- Betsy.

Comment #12

So that's what the Medifast police officers look like? Thanks for sharing, looks like one of them could be following plan a little more 100%.

Comment #13

I couldn't agree more!.

I'm assuming your intent was to be helpful to those who aren't absolutely perfect all the time and may feel like failures because of it. The problem is that many people ARE 100% OP and if a peer gives them an additional excuse to not continue that, they might take it (especially if new to MF). I wouldn't want to have any part in anyone here possibly even considering going off plan in the slightest. You have to remember there are people here who are addicted to food and may die prematurely if they do not aim to follow this plan 100%..

Comment #14

Amen! This subject is way over thought and talked about for years now anyway. We must all find our own path, but not be an obstacle to those who are still searching for theirs.

E..

Comment #15

I AM a newbie and thankfully have spent my days in the chat room learning that OP is the best policy. I would have hated to see this to start with. thanks for the comments..

Comment #16

LIZ This is it in a nutshell, for me..

There are no two of us alike here. From the 'style' used on these boards to 'support' to the 'flavors' of the Medifast meals.

We see threads ad infinitum about these subjects..

I will have to say that Betsy made a great point too.

No matter how she chooses to work this plan, she never tells anyone that anything but 100% is the safest and quickest way to get well, healthy, and at GOAL.

Oh and honey, I bout spewed my Cappa when I saw that you agreed with Eagle..

Bwhahaaaaaaaaa!.

Don't know if the OP realized how her post might come across, so I will give her the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully she would never encourage anyone here to CHEAT, since she, nor none of us, knows the true medical, mental, or physical details that others are dealing with..

Chris, as usual, you are the voice of kindness, and truth. God Bless you..

I don't even want to judge the 'perfectness' of any member here. I'm such a flawed person myself. I do know that it is POSSIBLE to stay on plan, and of course we all know it is entirely POSSIBLE not to stay on plan ( ).

I struggle just to stay on plan, myself, and today I was 100%..

Comment #17

Everyone has a choice to do the plan their own way. Diana is not pointing a gun to anyone's head saying "do it like me". I read her post as being excited at her losses so far even tho she wasn't doing it exactly 100%. Face it, not all people do it 100% and many do. Newbs and anyone else should read the materials and do the plan as they see fit. Some people do have to modify due to health issues etc.

We all have a choice and this is an individual journey for each person. That's why we all have our own brains and the freedom of choice. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just happy it's working for HER. And yeah, I knew she would get a firestorm of negative posts aka slammed..

Comment #18

There ya go! .

You are off to a great start and I wish you well, dear!.

Comment #19

Why not just a start a thread about Obama endorsing a mosque at ground zero- it might be less controversial..

Comment #20

About 10 mins after this thread went up, the following was asked in chat:.

"So, I see from the forums that we can go off plan and still lose weight, if thats true, what can I do or not do to accomplish that?".

This was from someone who has been on the plan for a matter of days..

A gun to the head is a tad bit of an exaggeration. The ability to impact how the plan is perceived is more like it...

She could have easily blogged this proclamation, or kept it to herself. Granted she did take a step back and re-established what she was trying to communicate, but in the mind of that newb who didnt see her "retraction", there was already the potential to take a negative out of it..

Comment #21

That sounds to me like someone that isn't very committed to begin with..

We all know that 100% is best for best results. That's a given..

Comment #22

OMG Paul, now I gotta clean my screen again. You MEN! .

LOL.

OH and your suggestion would violate the Medifast rules for using this site..

Comment #23

WOW Eagle, this just makes the point very clear, huh?.

Tracy, I don't agree that it shows lack of commitment. I think it shows someone who is NEW and trying to learn all the ins and outs of their new plan.

Here is prime example:.

Newbee says:.

'I can't find Laughing Cow on the approved list, but I see folks say they incorporate it into their plan'.

NS (The dieiticians here) Say: It is NOT ON PLAN, but if you choose to incorporate it into your plan, they give you the stats as to how to count it, so you can be within the OnPlan guidelines of MF." .

Asking that question did not mean someone was not committed, but they were confused by the messages they saw as a newbee.

Does that make sense?.

When someone actually says what our OP did in her last sentence it can be confusing.

Quote: "So all you worried about having to do this 100%, no worries, it works regardless.".

Like I said, it is NEVER WRONG to suggest staying OnPlan, but to suggest the other means you have some crystal ball into the future. NO ONE knows what eating Off Plan could do to another human. NO ONE.

There have been members who have gone off plan a few times and jumped back on, then one time they go off and BAM we see them back here with over a 100 pounds to lose. Search those threads over in the Re-Commiters.

Time and time again, they say, they THOUGHT they could just get back on plan after a planned cheat..

I'm going to err on the side of Medifast and this plan every time, even if it is not always easy to do. I will also take the hand of a member who has slipped, or jumped off any 'cookie cliff', and help guide them back..

See I believe you are only a FAILURE, if you fail to get back on plan and get to goal..

Comment #24

I agree with you. People slip and fall. I think a lot of it IS commitment tho. If you're new and already trying to cheat, what does that say about your commitment to begin with? Seriously, I wasn't condoning her being off plan. I was just saying glad it works for her. That's all.

I just try to support people and not be judgmental..

Comment #25

When I read this post this morning, the first thing I thought of was if I had read this in the begining of my journey, I would not have reached goal. Now that doesnt mean that I wasnt committed because I wanted to be healthy more than anything, but being a food addict I would have looked at it as an opening to play with the program as I did with ww and other programs.

If anyone knows me here, they know that I am the biggest cheerleader. I encourage everyone regardless of slips, falls, cheats or whatever you choose to call them. I know that I am the last person that should condemn someone for how they choose to go through their own journey. While I choose to be 100%, I dont think that was the issue with this post. I know for me starting out with so much weight to lose, I was vulnerable and scared. That first couple of weeks I felt terrible and if I would have read that I could still lose weight even if I didnt follow the program as it was written, I probably would have done so. now 13 months later, I'm smarter because I know what works for me, but I hate to think that any new person that is struggling to get into ketosis and feeling bad, would take this information to sway them from the success of changing their lives..

Comment #26

Perhaps the OP is experiencing weight loss as calories in vs. calories out. That is where the rubber meets the road. I believe in calories in vs. calories out for reduction, but I also believe we can not ignore those macronutrients and the role they play. Eating protein with each fueling (as each Medifast meal contains) and keeping carbs under 100 grams per day does certainly play a role in keeping the old hunger at bay in my opinion.

Everyone needs to do what works best for them. Yes, 100% does have positive results indeed. Perhaps it would be best if there was a thread specifically for those who use portion controlled meal replacements such as Medifast, but maybe not exactly as written, where those folks could discuss. This way those committed to 100% could just ignore that thread knowing it deviates from the plan they desire..

Just a thought..

Nora.

Comment #27

I agree there should be a hungry, crabby, I'm menstruating thread. Good grief, I signed up for the free health coach so who calls? They matched me up with some guy like I'm really going to share my thoughts with him regarding TOM. Now I signed up at the clinic where I can groan with women who understand..

Comment #28

I see what you're saying, not every plan works for everyone. However.... that kind of forum just seems like a breeding ground for failure. Would they title the forum "I'll do things my way because it has OBVIOUSLY worked so well in the past"? It would just be a disservice to everyone to have a forum of mixed messages..

Comment #29

IMO...we're all responsible for reading the Medifast materials, condiment lists, food options, etc. That is the only absolute truth where this program is concerned...people find things they like and ask Nutrisystem if it's okay and Nutrisystem tries to work it in...but really, the basics of the plan are simply spelled-out. I think if someone reads a post such as " I ate a cookie" (remember? ) or this particular thread and takes it as license to modify their Medifast program to suit them, that's their decision and in all likelihood, they were looking for a way to do that anyway..

Comment #30

The original poster is missing. You guys scared her away!.

Comment #31

I believe if following the plan on this site, then do it 100% per the materials laid out by this site, and yes, many of us have done that, and many are doing it now. the 100% laid out on this site works best. HOWEVER, if you are following the plan through a clinic/doctor, then whatever they have you doing is also 100%. this would be the only time a change in plan from these boards would be the right thing.

Weightloss is hard, maintenance is harder. learn now to change your thinking, how to control your cravings and your maintenance will come easier. if you have trouble following the easier step of 5/1, God bless you when you get ready for transition and maintenance. that is when it gets REALLY challenging. the advice to stay 100% is definately to help you, not police you. it is your plan, your $$, but I would suggest you follow the voices of 100% experience here. Either way, you are a member of these boards, and you had/have the right to voice your opinions..

Lets don't let this thread get out of control with nasty!!.

Comment #32

Schu- Amen on keeping the boards under control- civil and non-judgemental.

I do not know why anyone gets worked up over what anyone else has to say or does with their own Medifast experience. I think we all need to worry about ourselves. It is very nice that so many do choose to offer up help or advice when consulted..

Comment #33

Agreed Paul! there can be as many opinions as people on these boards, and at times, we just need to agree to disagree. I believe strongly in 100%, but it is not my place to judge those who are doing a scenic route, and it is working for them enough to be satisfying. That would not have worked for me, though. this is a support board, cant be supportive when it gets nasty and judgemental!.

Comment #34

I think there is more than one way to do Medifast and be successful - everyone defines success in their own way, and has different financial resources to keep doing it 100% for the long term. Some modify it in a way that allows them to contnue to stick with it - why would anybody bash someone for succeeding, no matter how they do it, as long as it's legal?.

Comment #35

Amen Eagle!!.

Diana - Not going to preach, but I really wish that people would stop encouraging people to do Medifast "Their Way". Historically, it just doesn't work they way you expect and a good majority of the people recommitting to doing the plan as written have tried it "their Way" and, well, the result is, they're back here doing 5&1 again...

All I can say, is that if you've been successful so far, imagine how much further ahead you would be if you'd done the plan as written. Basically, you're NOT doing MF, but some frankensteined program that has no basis for a successful outcome. Good luck in whatever you do..

Comment #36

So Far I have lose 12.5 lbs. and I have 3 more days to reach my 4th. week. This is great and I am not disappointed cause I did not start with having too much to lose, but I am thinking of resetting my goal as I get use to weighing less and eating less...

Comment #37

Well good for you. I know this post is gonna get slammed with people telling you not to do what you're doing. So let me be the first to say that whatever you're doing is working for you and thats all that matters..

Comment #38

Slamming her telling her what she's doing wrong? No..

What it should get slammed for isnt that shes doing what shes doing, it's that shes pontificating that it works regardless of whether one follows the rules, which is a ridiculous message to send, especially to new people struggling with the plan...

Comment #39

How you choose to work your program IS your option, of course, but advising others that the program works 'regardless' of whether they follow it 100% or not isn't quite accurate. When a person stays 100% OP all the time, he is guaranteed to reach goal. When he doesn't, there is no guarantee of reaching goal at all. Many of us start this program with a lot of weight to lose & feeling quite hopeless about our ability to get the job done. When we commit ourselves to the lack of choice with the 5/1, we treat the program as rehab for food junkies. That reels us in & gets us ON track to new eating behaviors.



Many of us have manipulated food plans on a regular basis & we found ourselves battling a constant crisis with yo yo dieting. Medifast is the one program that can change all that, for good, when we stay committed to the 5 packets & the 1 weighed & measured L&G meal..

Again, how you choose to work your program is your option & if you are seeing results in spite of not following it 100%, that's great. I'm just giving my perspective for others who may read this & think it's fine for them to work the program partially. In many, many cases, half measures get us nowhere. The program rules DO apply to all of us, no matter how much or how little we have to lose; bad eating habits affect all of us with weight problems..

Best of luck on your journey, no matter HOW you choose to take it..

Hugs.

Chris..

Comment #40

Hi girls, so glad to read that you both are happy with medifast. I started 2 weeks ago and have lost 7 lbs.. I , too, am coming in from Nutrisystem, and also, I think it is a speedier plan to weight loss. I find that you have to exercise alot to lose weight with Nutrisystem too.. I had been a member since 1996, and lost only 30 lbs, and I am talking with women at work and they have lost 30 in 3 months..Eileen..

Comment #41

Thank you for the insights for staying on plan 100%......

Comment #42

Well what I am saying is that NO one really does it 100%. NO one measures the same eactly. Its like if you forget a fat or not enough veggies by not adding eactly the right amount or forget a Medifast meal to not worry about because it still works regardless. So anyone who slams me is not taking this as a possitive thing..

People do not have to worry as much as they may and get all stressed out. This plan works, period..

All I am saying is that I have forgot a meal or did not eat enough meat or veggies and I am still losing and feeling good...

Comment #43

Gotta go with eagletrub on this one (did I actually just type that? ). I'm not even a 100% plan follower and I feel like I need to point out that "not 100% = not 100% effective." Yes, you'll lose weight I've certainly been doing fine but you will not lose AS MUCH weight as you could if you were 100%. I'm pretty sure I could be down another 5 or 10 lbs by now if I hadn't chosen the scenic route. I did choose it and I'm totally fine with that; but what you will never hear me say is that my "not quite 100%" method of doing Medifast is as effective as 100% compliance would have been..

Also? I wouldn't post where a bunch of newbies are trying to learn the plan and just say "The plan works whether you do it right nor not!" without a laundry list of caveats so they know that what I do isn't what I recommend for everyone else...

Comment #44

Well, Diana this debate goes on and on at this site. Your fact is wrong. MANY "ones" do it 100%. I did it, lost 51 pounds and 33 inches. I did transition 100% and am maintaining 100% too. Some days I would run out of time to eat and have to prepare two meals at once, but I got in all my 5 meals..

You have very little to lose and apparently you are not a food addict. Perhaps you have a healthy relationship with food at your age. Most of us here, on MF, if we are honest with ourselves, are struggling with food addiction/obsession. That must not be the case with you, and for that you can be thankful..

We all weigh and measure food the same. All it takes is a food scale, some measuring cups and spoons. Simple..

Enjoy the program, as you work it your way. But please, please, don't tell newbies who have hundreds of pounds to lose that they can cheat off plan and still have Medifast work for them. They will never make it to goal and will be binging on a half gallon of ice cream or a huge bag of chips by the end of the week..

You can have excuses, or success, but you must choose which you want. You can't have both..

Elizabeth..

Comment #45

Wrong. I did and still do. I measure and weight everything in grams for veg and ounces for lean. I follow the plan as it's written. I never do anything to doctor up or change the Medifast foods. So I am a living breathing contradiction to what you posted here.

I'm glad what you're doing works for you, but as a slow loser there was no way I could not follow the plan 100% and still lose weight. When I was on Nutrisystem I gained weight. 5 pounds the first month. And I do exercise... I belly dance and trust me, that's a thorough work out as it uses your whole body..

Comment #46

Be careful...this sort of post can get you blasted by the Medipolice..

Recently I had to have some medical testing done at the Mayo Clinic. I had to fast a couple of different times, take multiple laxitives and had 6 enimas in one morning. I went through the mill that week of testing and it left me HUNGRY! I wanted to know if I was going to go over plan which was the best food to eat. Good grief, I caught heck! NO ONE measures every lean and green perfectly, drinks every last ounce of water every day, brings their scale, measuring cup and measuring spoons out to every meal. And we certainly don't plan on a half a dozen enemas and having to do medical fasts that leave us ravenous. Being on plan 100 percent is best (and I'm trying harder to do that) but if you have to vary it some, than just do it knowing you could lose weight more slowly or it could actually make you MORE hungry to eat more (as what happened to me).



Congratulations on your success...

Comment #47

Kiki, you know how I feel about finding your own path on MF; but your statement below is not true. There are people who follow the plan 100% as written. Not as many people do it as who *say* they do it; but there is definitely a significant portion of people on this board who are exactly and totally 100% on plan. I am not one of them, nor will I ever be; but even if I think differently, I admire people who can stay 100% on plan and it's not cool to imply that because we don't no one can. Like I said in a previous thread; the best thing we can all do is be happy for those that lose weight; be sad for those who are struggling, and then do what we find we can and should do. Everyone else's on plan/off plan status is kind of irrelevant WITH THE EXCEPTION that we really need to be vigilant in making sure that when we do something off plan we underscore for the newbies that it is off plan.

I think that's the entire reason I'm even posting on this thread..

Also? I see where this thread is going so I will just announce right now that this is *my* last post! Not out of anger or bitterness; but just because I know how "one last comment" can become "Well, I meant one *more* last comment...." and so on and so forth. I promise not to be the one to keep this going forever! I swear!!.

- Betsy..

Comment #48

So that's what the Medifast police officers look like? Thanks for sharing, looks like one of them could be following plan a little more 100%..

Comment #49

I couldn't agree more!.

I'm assuming your intent was to be helpful to those who aren't absolutely perfect all the time and may feel like failures because of it. The problem is that many people ARE 100% OP and if a peer gives them an additional excuse to not continue that, they might take it (especially if new to MF). I wouldn't want to have any part in anyone here possibly even considering going off plan in the slightest. You have to remember there are people here who are addicted to food and may die prematurely if they do not aim to follow this plan 100%...

Comment #50

Amen! This subject is way over thought and talked about for years now anyway. We must all find our own path, but not be an obstacle to those who are still searching for theirs..

E...

Comment #51

I AM a newbie and thankfully have spent my days in the chat room learning that OP is the best policy. I would have hated to see this to start with. thanks for the comments...

Comment #52

LIZ This is it in a nutshell, for me..

There are no two of us alike here. From the 'style' used on these boards to 'support' to the 'flavors' of the Medifast meals..

We see threads ad infinitum about these subjects..

I will have to say that Betsy made a great point too..

No matter how she chooses to work this plan, she never tells anyone that anything but 100% is the safest and quickest way to get well, healthy, and at GOAL..

Oh and honey, I bout spewed my Cappa when I saw that you agreed with Eagle..

Bwhahaaaaaaaaa!.

Don't know if the OP realized how her post might come across, so I will give her the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully she would never encourage anyone here to CHEAT, since she, nor none of us, knows the true medical, mental, or physical details that others are dealing with..

Chris, as usual, you are the voice of kindness, and truth. God Bless you..

I don't even want to judge the 'perfectness' of any member here. I'm such a flawed person myself. I do know that it is POSSIBLE to stay on plan, and of course we all know it is entirely POSSIBLE not to stay on plan ( ).

I struggle just to stay on plan, myself, and today I was 100%...

Comment #53

Everyone has a choice to do the plan their own way. Diana is not pointing a gun to anyone's head saying "do it like me". I read her post as being excited at her losses so far even tho she wasn't doing it exactly 100%. Face it, not all people do it 100% and many do. Newbs and anyone else should read the materials and do the plan as they see fit. Some people do have to modify due to health issues etc.

We all have a choice and this is an individual journey for each person. That's why we all have our own brains and the freedom of choice. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just happy it's working for HER. And yeah, I knew she would get a firestorm of negative posts aka slammed...

Comment #54

There ya go!.

You are off to a great start and I wish you well, dear!..

Comment #55

Why not just a start a thread about Obama endorsing a mosque at ground zero- it might be less controversial...

Comment #56

About 10 mins after this thread went up, the following was asked in chat:.

"So, I see from the forums that we can go off plan and still lose weight, if thats true, what can I do or not do to accomplish that?".

This was from someone who has been on the plan for a matter of days..

A gun to the head is a tad bit of an exaggeration. The ability to impact how the plan is perceived is more like it...

She could have easily blogged this proclamation, or kept it to herself. Granted she did take a step back and re-established what she was trying to communicate, but in the mind of that newb who didnt see her "retraction", there was already the potential to take a negative out of it...

Comment #57

That sounds to me like someone that isn't very committed to begin with..

We all know that 100% is best for best results. That's a given...

Comment #58

OMG Paul, now I gotta clean my screen again. You MEN!.

LOL.

OH and your suggestion would violate the Medifast rules for using this site...

Comment #59

WOW Eagle, this just makes the point very clear, huh?.

Tracy, I don't agree that it shows lack of commitment. I think it shows someone who is NEW and trying to learn all the ins and outs of their new plan..

Here is prime example:.

Newbee says:.

'I can't find Laughing Cow on the approved list, but I see folks say they incorporate it into their plan'.

NS (The dieiticians here) Say: It is NOT ON PLAN, but if you choose to incorporate it into your plan, they give you the stats as to how to count it, so you can be within the OnPlan guidelines of MF.".

Asking that question did not mean someone was not committed, but they were confused by the messages they saw as a newbee..

Does that make sense?.

When someone actually says what our OP did in her last sentence it can be confusing..

Quote: "So all you worried about having to do this 100%, no worries, it works regardless.".

Like I said, it is NEVER WRONG to suggest staying OnPlan, but to suggest the other means you have some crystal ball into the future. NO ONE knows what eating Off Plan could do to another human. NO ONE..

There have been members who have gone off plan a few times and jumped back on, then one time they go off and BAM we see them back here with over a 100 pounds to lose. Search those threads over in the Re-Commiters..

Time and time again, they say, they THOUGHT they could just get back on plan after a planned cheat..

I'm going to err on the side of Medifast and this plan every time, even if it is not always easy to do. I will also take the hand of a member who has slipped, or jumped off any 'cookie cliff', and help guide them back..

See I believe you are only a FAILURE, if you fail to get back on plan and get to goal...

Comment #60

I agree with you. People slip and fall. I think a lot of it IS commitment tho. If you're new and already trying to cheat, what does that say about your commitment to begin with? Seriously, I wasn't condoning her being off plan. I was just saying glad it works for her. That's all.

I just try to support people and not be judgmental...

Comment #61

When I read this post this morning, the first thing I thought of was if I had read this in the begining of my journey, I would not have reached goal. Now that doesnt mean that I wasnt committed because I wanted to be healthy more than anything, but being a food addict I would have looked at it as an opening to play with the program as I did with ww and other programs..

If anyone knows me here, they know that I am the biggest cheerleader. I encourage everyone regardless of slips, falls, cheats or whatever you choose to call them. I know that I am the last person that should condemn someone for how they choose to go through their own journey. While I choose to be 100%, I dont think that was the issue with this post. I know for me starting out with so much weight to lose, I was vulnerable and scared. That first couple of weeks I felt terrible and if I would have read that I could still lose weight even if I didnt follow the program as it was written, I probably would have done so. now 13 months later, I'm smarter because I know what works for me, but I hate to think that any new person that is struggling to get into ketosis and feeling bad, would take this information to sway them from the success of changing their lives...

Comment #62

Perhaps the OP is experiencing weight loss as calories in vs. calories out. That is where the rubber meets the road. I believe in calories in vs. calories out for reduction, but I also believe we can not ignore those macronutrients and the role they play. Eating protein with each fueling (as each Medifast meal contains) and keeping carbs under 100 grams per day does certainly play a role in keeping the old hunger at bay in my opinion..

Everyone needs to do what works best for them. Yes, 100% does have positive results indeed. Perhaps it would be best if there was a thread specifically for those who use portion controlled meal replacements such as Medifast, but maybe not exactly as written, where those folks could discuss. This way those committed to 100% could just ignore that thread knowing it deviates from the plan they desire..

Just a thought..

Nora..

Comment #63

Sure, right after they add a TOM only forum...

Comment #64

I agree there should be a hungry, crabby, I'm menstruating thread. Good grief, I signed up for the free health coach so who calls? They matched me up with some guy like I'm really going to share my thoughts with him regarding TOM. Now I signed up at the clinic where I can groan with women who understand...

Comment #65

I see what you're saying, not every plan works for everyone. However.... that kind of forum just seems like a breeding ground for failure. Would they title the forum "I'll do things my way because it has OBVIOUSLY worked so well in the past"? It would just be a disservice to everyone to have a forum of mixed messages...

Comment #66

IMO...we're all responsible for reading the Medifast materials, condiment lists, food options, etc. That is the only absolute truth where this program is concerned...people find things they like and ask Nutrisystem if it's okay and Nutrisystem tries to work it in...but really, the basics of the plan are simply spelled-out. I think if someone reads a post such as " I ate a cookie" (remember? ) or this particular thread and takes it as license to modify their Medifast program to suit them, that's their decision and in all likelihood, they were looking for a way to do that anyway...

Comment #67

The original poster is missing. You guys scared her away!..

Comment #68

I believe if following the plan on this site, then do it 100% per the materials laid out by this site, and yes, many of us have done that, and many are doing it now. the 100% laid out on this site works best. HOWEVER, if you are following the plan through a clinic/doctor, then whatever they have you doing is also 100%. this would be the only time a change in plan from these boards would be the right thing..

Weightloss is hard, maintenance is harder. learn now to change your thinking, how to control your cravings and your maintenance will come easier. if you have trouble following the easier step of 5/1, God bless you when you get ready for transition and maintenance. that is when it gets REALLY challenging. the advice to stay 100% is definately to help you, not police you. it is your plan, your $$, but I would suggest you follow the voices of 100% experience here.



Lets don't let this thread get out of control with nasty!!..

Comment #69

Schu- Amen on keeping the boards under control- civil and non-judgemental..

I do not know why anyone gets worked up over what anyone else has to say or does with their own Medifast experience. I think we all need to worry about ourselves. It is very nice that so many do choose to offer up help or advice when consulted...

Comment #70

Agreed Paul! there can be as many opinions as people on these boards, and at times, we just need to agree to disagree. I believe strongly in 100%, but it is not my place to judge those who are doing a scenic route, and it is working for them enough to be satisfying. That would not have worked for me, though. this is a support board, cant be supportive when it gets nasty and judgemental!..

Comment #71

I think there is more than one way to do Medifast and be successful - everyone defines success in their own way, and has different financial resources to keep doing it 100% for the long term. Some modify it in a way that allows them to contnue to stick with it - why would anybody bash someone for succeeding, no matter how they do it, as long as it's legal?..

Comment #72

Amen Eagle!!.

Diana - Not going to preach, but I really wish that people would stop encouraging people to do Medifast "Their Way". Historically, it just doesn't work they way you expect and a good majority of the people recommitting to doing the plan as written have tried it "their Way" and, well, the result is, they're back here doing 5&1 again...

All I can say, is that if you've been successful so far, imagine how much further ahead you would be if you'd done the plan as written. Basically, you're NOT doing MF, but some frankensteined program that has no basis for a successful outcome. Good luck in whatever you do...

Comment #73


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.

 

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