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Nikon D60 or Canon XTi or 30D
Hi.

Been a lurker for years, and this site has helped me get some great shots out of my Ixus Canon..

I can see there are hundreds of these kind of questions, but my time of purchase finds me in a transition of models for manufacturers..

Now, I would like to buy now, as we are going to Latvia and I would like to take it with me, unless the XSi is really worth waiting for??.

I am leaning towards canon, for no practical reason, I have held and shot some pictures with d40 and xti and 30D..

It seems the canon 30D is now about the same price as the XSi, so would it be a better option? I have no desire to make huge prints, A4 size would be the largest...

So D60, XTi or 30D??? or XSi.

My background is that I like photography, and have a basic understanding. I am no expert, but would like to learn more..

My budget is about $800..

Cheers.

Andy..

Comments (9)

As you don't intend to take photography to a more professional level, I highly suggest the 400D (XTi). Your $800 budget would allow you to get the kit lens + a decent telephoto lens. Also the size and weight of the 400D compared to 30D is much more favorable for traveling..

I own the 400D for about 1 year now and came to the same decision between it and the 30D (at that time much more expensive than today). I got the kit lens version plus a 75-300 telephoto and it made me very happy so far, but as I'm outgrowing those lenses already, I recently got the 50mm 1.8 and I'm ordering the 85mm 1.8 soon (prime lenses are very addictive, be warned ). A higher end telephoto is also planned for the shortest therm plan, but my budget is still tight for the next couple of months..

Almost forgot: try to get the new kit lens with IS (Image Stabilization). The reviews about it are excellent, and according to those reviews it surely outperforms the original kit lens in image quality and usability. I'm planning myself to replace my original kit lens with one of them..

Raulhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/raul-fragoso/..

Comment #1

Thanks!'.

To me the size thing is not relevant, if it doesn't fit in the pocket, how big doesnt matter..

Now while looking on bhphoto, the d80 is $729......

Although I am no expert, I am of the "buy once, buy well" philosophy ..

Comment #2

If you're not going to make very large prints, or moderately large prints from heavily cropped images (nervous birds and other wildlife being an obvious case of where you might do such a thing), you likely won't need extreme resolution..

If you're not going to be shooting rapidly moving objects, you probably also won't need a high-end many-point tracking autofocus system..

You may not need high burst rates, likewise..

You may find that you will have pretty minor requirements on the body except that it should be comfortable to carry and use..

On the other hand... if you're going to be shooting landscapes a lot, you may find it worthwhile to invest in a good wide-angle lens, especially if shooting a sequence of multiple frames and combining them doesn't appeal to you. If you're going to want to take self-portraits, a tripod would be helpful...

Comment #3

I will mainly be taking photos of street scenes, landscapes, and friends.

I plan on getting the 50mm f1.4 lens, and maybe the 85mm, or what would you reccomend?..

Comment #4

Hi..

If there are just these choices, I would strongly recommend you to takle a look at the D60. I was playing a bit with one last saturday. It is quite small, excellent build quality (unlike the 350/400/450) with no cracking and squeaking as you held it in your hands, very good image quality and noise levels up to ISO 1600 and the kit lens is better (more sharpness, better contrast, better focus and image stabilization) than the canon counterparts. Has a very simple and intuitive menu, it allows you to customize a special quick access menu and the combo is very light for travel and tourism..

This is a photo taken with the D60:.

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Adding the cheap 55-200VR you will cover, with image stabilization, the entire span from 18 to 200 mm and in a very low budget..

Right now, Canon has no better offer quality+price in this segment..

Cheers.

Miancu.

Cressers wrote:.

Hi.

Been a lurker for years, and this site has helped me get some greatshots out of my Ixus Canon..

I can see there are hundreds of these kind of questions, but my timeof purchase finds me in a transition of models for manufacturers..

Now, I would like to buy now, as we are going to Latvia and I wouldlike to take it with me, unless the XSi is really worth waiting for??.

I am leaning towards canon, for no practical reason, I have held andshot some pictures with d40 and xti and 30D..

It seems the canon 30D is now about the same price as the XSi, sowould it be a better option? I have no desire to make huge prints, A4size would be the largest...

So D60, XTi or 30D??? or XSi.

My background is that I like photography, and have a basicunderstanding. I am no expert, but would like to learn more..

My budget is about $800..

Cheers.

Andy.

Http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonionhttp://nikonion.smugmug.com..

Comment #5

Bear in mind that for an equivalent field of view to that of a 35mm camera, you'll need a shorter focal length. For the landscapes, you'll want something wider than 50mm..

Fisheyes might be of interest if you're willing to use defish software...

Comment #6

The OLY E-510..

I am currently in the same position as the OP and for about $650 (Beech camera) you are getting IS in body, dust reduction, live view, and 2 lenses covering 18-300 effective focal length (its on the 4/3's system). I'm almost sold, just haven't pulled the trigger...food for thought!..

Comment #7

Cressers wrote:.

Now, I would like to buy now, as we are going to Latvia and I wouldlike to take it with me, unless the XSi is really worth waiting for??.

The XSi would have a couple of advantages. Compared to the XTi, it has LiveView (a bit crippled though, not exactly like on P&S), a larger viewfinder, 14Bit RAW, highlight tone priority, SD memory, external flash settings in camera, WAY better time settings (just like on the A-series), and spot metering. Image quality, build, speed (start-up, viewfinder blackout) and price should be the same (price as in when the XTi was new). If you don't intend to use some of those features though, the XTi is steal now..

It seems the canon 30D is now about the same price as the XSi, sowould it be a better option? I have no desire to make huge prints, A4size would be the largest...

The XTi was being compared to the 30D a lot when it came out, and it actually has very similar image quality, but didn't have all the features. Now that the XSi is here, the gap has closed and the XSi could be considered a true mini-30D/40D..

So D60, XTi or 30D??? or XSi.

I still like Canons more. I find that at the entry-level, Canon is a better value, but at high-end, Nikon is usually more innovative. In my opinion, Canon is more user-friendly too. Nikons usually have too many menus and buttons. If I'm not mistaken, the D40/x only had 3 focusing points, compared to Canon's 9. Hopefully the D60 has more, but I don't know yet.

Canon doesn't have this advantage..

My background is that I like photography, and have a basicunderstanding. I am no expert, but would like to learn more..

I think it's easy to learn more! There is so much already available (free as well) and in easy-to-digest form too. To speed up the process, experiment (this can not be stressed enough)..

My budget is about $800..

It's probably be best to go with the XTi at this point, although you would be cutting it short for an nice lens. I guess the Nikon would be a little bit cheaper, but I still don't think it's as strong as an entry should be..

Somebody posted about Olympus but I am still not convinced. In time, LiveView and image stabilization will become standard (inbody or in lens, it doesn't matter which way) and the cost should come down, so there's nothing to see there. The Four Thirds sesnor size is too small for high-iso though and I really don't like have a focal length multiplier of 2...

Comment #8

In the end went for a 40d with the 17-85lens..

Lets see how things progress!!!.

Thanks for the advice, even though I ignored it.....

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