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Nikon D40x vs Pentax K10D vs Canon Powershot G9
Hi,.

First of all I would thanks everyone in this forum who are helping newbies like me in photography. I have been using my P&S for quite some time and now thinking of stepping into DSLR world and like many others undecided on which system to get into. First I will tell what kind of photography I am into, it's basically1) travel photography2) Nature3) family photos4) Potraits and closups.

What Focalength lenses are req for these?.

Can I acheive these with advanced P&S like Canon Powershot G9 do I really need a DSLR?.

My requirements :.

A) I would like to get a DSLR which is beginner friendly, where I will start with auto mode and slowly grow up with aperature priority, shutter priority, full manual..

B) I want a nice one and all lens like Nikkor 18-200 VR..

C) I also want IS/VR..

After a lot of research I have narrowed down to Nikon D40X & Pentax K10D (some how ii dont like the ergonomics of canons). Here are the pros and cons that I feel..

Nikon D40X:.

Pros - Lightweight, easy to useCons - No VR in body.

Pentax:Pros - VR in body, weather sealing and dust removal (how imp are these?).

Cons - heard it's an advance camera scared it dosent put me off in starting, cant find a good one n all lens..

Please help...

Comments (12)

It's a no brainer, at the moment, the Pentax will give you the biggest bang for the buck. You can start out using the green mode and grow into the other options. I suggest you get the DA 18-55 lens, which is arguably the best kit lens in the business, first. You can add other lenses as you become proficient. Many camera dealers offer this lens as a package deal...

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Stan Bembenek wrote:.

It's a no brainer, at the moment, the Pentax will give you thebiggest bang for the buck. You can start out using the green mode andgrow into the other options. I suggest you get the DA 18-55 lens,which is arguably the best kit lens in the business, first. You canadd other lenses as you become proficient. Many camera dealers offerthis lens as a package deal..

Thanks Stan,.

Will DA 18-55 lens cover my above requirements initially like nature landscapes, travel photos, family potraits. Going forwards I will surely add more lenses to my kit. Also I have heard that K10D is not a beginer's camera?..

Comment #2

Hello friends,.

Please help me in above queries,Thanks a lot in advance...

Comment #3

Photofreak1 wrote:.

Hi,.

First of all I would thanks everyone in this forum who are helpingnewbies like me in photography. I have been using my P&S for quitesome time and now thinking of stepping into DSLR world and like manyothers undecided on which system to get into. First I will tell whatkind of photography I am into, it's basically1) travel photography2) Nature3) family photos4) Potraits and closups.

What Focalength lenses are req for these?can I acheive these with advanced P&S like Canon Powershot G9 do ireally need a DSLR?.

Nature photography often demands a nice long focal length. The Powershot G9 specifically only has a 6x zoom, which many not be flexible enough depending on your needs. There are so called "superzoom" cameras though. An 18x SZ would actually offer greater coverage than any *single* SLR lens, though at the expense of lens distortion and slower F-stops (particularly at the long end)..

In terms of ultimate overall flexibility, the DSLR has a clear advantage..

My requirements :.

A) I would like to get a DSLR which is beginner friendly, where iwill start with auto mode and slowly grow up with aperature priority,shutter priority, full manual..

B) I want a nice one and all lens like Nikkor 18-200 VR..

C) I also want IS/VR..

After a lot of research I have narrowed down to Nikon D40X & PentaxK10D (some how ii dont like the ergonomics of canons). Here are thepros and cons that I feel..

Nikon D40X:.

Pros - Lightweight, easy to useCons - No VR in body.

Pentax:Pros - VR in body, weather sealing and dust removal (how imp are these?)Cons - heard it's an advance camera scared it dosent put me off instarting, cant find a good one n all lens..

Please help..

Well, the Nikon is probably a bit more user friendly for a beginner. It's also a fair bit lighter than the K10D. The drawbacks however are that it only Autofocuses with AF-S and AF-I lenses... since it lacks an internal motor for autofocusing with older AF lenses... and as you mentioned, unlike the Pentax, you need special lenses to get to benefit of VR (though there are certain benefits with having it through the lens). There are of course a few other advantages with the K10D as well, though to be fair it is in a different class of cameras (it'd be better to compare it with the Nikon D80)..

Oh, I should mention that both these cameras have a "Programmable Auto" (often just called "Program") mode. What this is basically is a step up from the Full Auto (which these cameras do still have); The camera maintains control over the aperture and shutter (with some flexibility), but you are given full control over the camera's other functions. This mode is IMO a good starting point in learning how to use your camera being too overwhelmed...

Comment #4

What about the Sony Alpha A100? That seems to get some good reviews...

Comment #5

Thanks a lot for your advice..

If I go for Pentax then which lens shall I choose to go with it, considering my photography requirements. I would not like to change lenses frequently, so I want a single lens to cover my most of the requirements initially like 18 - 200 or 18-135, what are the good choices available with Pentax..

Second thing is I was even considering D80 with 18-200 VR but it's going overbudget for me, I want somewhere around $1000. And if I combile D80 with 18-135 I will not get VR which is essential requirement to me...

Comment #6

Photofreak1 wrote:.

Thanks a lot for your advice..

If I go for Pentax then which lens shall I choose to go with it,considering my photography requirements. I would not like to changelenses frequently, so I want a single lens to cover my most of therequirements initially like 18 - 200 or 18-135, what are the goodchoices available with Pentax..

Second thing is I was even considering D80 with 18-200 VR but itsgoing overbudget for me, I want somewhere around $1000. And if icombile D80 with 18-135 I will not get VR which is essentialrequirement to me..

Well, if you MUST have and all in one zoom, the best out there at the moment is the Tamron 18-250mm for the Pentax. That is by far the best of all the superzoom, all in one lenses available at the moment..

A much better combination and much more affordable with the K10Dwould be the two kit lens combo to start (ie, the 1855mm and the 50-200mm). For the money, there is probably not a better combination of value and quality in entry level lenses. If you do need something a little longer than 200mm for wildlife, look at substituting a Tamron 70-300mm for the DA50-200mm. The Tamron gives you the extra reach plus it adds a good macro capability to the lens and is an excellent widlelife lens..

If you want to go with something a little longer and faster for everyday use, the Sigma 17-70mm is excellent as a day to day lens. Again, coupled with the Tamron 70-300mm, you would have a terrific two lens kit that can cover almsot all your needs for quite some time..

I actually own all of these and have used them extensively. My preference is the Sigma 17-70mm/Tamron 70-300mm combo but I also use the 18-55/50-200 combination as well when weight is an issue. Those two lenses combined with my *istD body make a very small and lightweight kit to pack around day..

JohnPentax *ist-D, K100D, Fuji F20/31fd, Oly Stylushttp://www.pbase.com/jglover..

Comment #7

Thanks a lot John,So it's decided - Pentax K10D + Tamaron 18-250.That would be over $1200 little bit over budget but I can manage..

Thanks everyone for helping me...

Comment #8

Photofreak1 wrote:.

Thanks a lot John,So it's decided - Pentax K10D + Tamaron 18-250.That would be over $1200 little bit over budget but I can manage..

Are you aware of the fact that Pentax K10D isn't geared towards novices and doesn't have so called scene modes (Portrait, sports, landscape etc.)?.

Edvinas..

Comment #9

John Glover wrote:.

I actually own all of these and have used them extensively. Mypreference is the Sigma 17-70mm/Tamron 70-300mm combo but I also usethe 18-55/50-200 combination as well when weight is an issue. Thosetwo lenses combined with my *istD body make a very small andlightweight kit to pack around day..

Hi there,.

This brings up a good question - I'm in this very same predicament right now as the current rebate for the Pentax K10D places it in the same price range as the Nikon D40x. While I like the feel of the K10D in my hands and all it's features (in-body SR, weather sealing, 10MP, etc.), I'm worried that lens selection (specifically rental, because I'm on a budget!) will be an issue for the Pentax body..

I'm currently "brand agnostic" (don't have any lenses from a particular manufacturer that I need to stick to) and a lot of people in these forums say that you carefully need to choose the brand and lens support that you're "buying into". That said, can anyone share their experiences with this? Am I worrying about nothing? .

Thanks!..

Comment #10

First, I would keep away from the D40X. It is too stripped down compared to others. If you want an SLR that size, get a K100D or K100D super. Personally, I love having a DSLR and have an older Pentax DS. Photos have a realistic rendering and ISO 1600 is clean without using noise reduction..

The G9 looks to be a good one. The A 630, 640 and 650 look good too. I went for a small Samsung NV15. It does not have all the features of the G series but it does have the larger sensor and produces a more DSLR like photo, similar to what the G series would. The video mode is incredible..

For travelling, the smaller cameras are nice but a DSLR will get you the shots when the light is less than perfect. I would suggest getting the camera you need right now, probably the smaller one and get a DSLR later...

Comment #11

Would you really rent lenses? If so, Canon and Nikon are your choices...

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