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Nikon D40X vs. Olympus E-510
Well, I went to the local camera shop today, to feel for myself the two cameras I am comparing..

I seem to *prefer* the Nikon. I like the feel of it, I like how it snaps the photographs, I like how the lens feels as I adjust it..

The Olympus is very nice as well, but it just didn't feel as good to me. A tad bit heavier. Kills me bc of the value (2 lens), but I'm pretty sure I'm going to choose the Nikon. Adding an addl. lens, I figure I'll be paying $100 more for the Nikon. Perhaps over the long haul this is ok.



I sensed the Nikon snapped photos a bit faster than the Olympus (as I was snapping away). She said this is very possible bc (in her experience) the Nikon has a *better,* or faster focusing time. Any thoughts or experience, anyone?.

I'd love to order the camera from Ritz, since they have a too good to pass up deal, but I am really really really a novice here, and I think after visiting the shop I am much better off buying my camera from the shop. That way any trouble, they are there for me (we know the /img/avatar3.jpg from our former church & school). Any thoughts on that ??.

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Comments (17)

The D40 & D40x have no depth of feild preview. For me, this is a critical feature...

Comment #1

Or autofocus motor...another real ding. The 510 has those plus in body stabilization, unfortunately missing a few things too....like dynamic range and clean high ISO images. Guess that's why if I was in that price bracket I would probably get a K100D or even K10D...

Comment #2

I believe it's the 18-55 mm..

The two lens kit (which my local shop isn't offerrng) has the 18-55mm, & 55-200 mm., these are not stabilization lens however...

Comment #3

I am a novice. Can you tell me what you mean by "depth of field preview." ??..

Comment #4

Who make the K100D or K10D? Can you tell me more about this camera?..

Comment #5

Go with what feels good in your hand. If you don't like your equipment you are less likely to take photos. It is even valid to choose one camera over another because of the name on the front. Remember, whatever gets you out the camera out of the bag is the right choice. $100.00 is really nothing in the grand scheme of things. If you like photography you'll burn through several hundred dollars in the next few years..

When you are composing an image the lens on your camera is ordinarily wide open to allow the most light into the view finder. When you want to see the what is in focus you "stop down the lens" and this means the lens closes to the setting it will use for your image. When that happens you see exactly what is in focus. I use math as the viewfinders are so dark when stopped down..

I shoot with Olympus for the very reason you're choosing Nikon...how it feels and how it operates. Go take some pictures.

REd..

Comment #6

Cookiej wrote:.

Who make the K100D or K10D? Can you tell me more about this camera?.

Pentax - both very good cameras, the K100D is the lower spec, but very comparable with the D40. Maybe go back and try it out alongside the Nikon. But if you still like the Nikon then get that, it's how it feels that's important..

DOF preview is something that I have never used on my D200, it's of negligible importance in my opinion..

Alex.

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Comment #7

Just a suggestion - simply having "more lenses" is worthless if you don't understand what they do, or if you don't see a foreseeable need..

I think the 2 lens kits are great, IF you don't mind changing lenses. I'm a newbie too, and to me, changing lenses would be a pain. I've had a DSLR for about 4 years, but still use it like a "point and shoot"....and the one thing I prefer is to have an "all around" lens...a compromise lens that has a wide focal range..

I got a 18-200VR lens - which to ME is sharp through out the focal range. I'm not experienced enough to know what to complain about.  .

But I love the convenience of 1 lens that can take pictures from up close to far away...and by and large, they look professional enough for me..

To me, who wants the convenience, a two-lens kit of any kind is not appealing..

Ask your friend at church if he can get you a price for a D40x and an 18-200VR - maybe he can cut a good deal on the combination. It will definitely be MORE than the 2 lens kit, but depending on your wants/needs - it may be worth it..

Under any circumstances (kit lens, 2 lens kit, alternate lens) I'd suggest getting a separate flash (stronger and flashes farther than your on-board flash). To me, having a separate flash really makes a difference..

RNW123..

Comment #8

Can anyone tell me which is the maximum zoom of the 18-55mm lens?I am a novice ate these things and would like to know more about..

Any good post or website where I can get good information to undesrtand how lens work and understand their specifications?.

Regards..

Comment #9

Alex Leach wrote:.

DOF preview is something that I have never used on my D200, it's ofnegligible importance in my opinion..

Well, DoF preview is not much use in cropped-sensor dSLRs, anyway. There are exceptions, but generally......

Because of the titchy viewfinders, the focusing screens are made for best possible brightness instead. The resultant weirdo "transparent" quality in the screen hides the differences in DoF in all lens apertures wider than f/4. Focused and un-focused parts of the image look much the same, thus negating the whole point of DoF preview at those apertures where it matters most.Regards,Baz..

Comment #10

Cookiej wrote:.

I am a novice. Can you tell me what you mean by "depth of fieldpreview." ??.

Have you not heard of the famous Google search engine?.

Entering "Depth of Field preview" into Google brings up this first page of search results....

Http://www.google.co.uk/...,GFRD:2007-35,GFRD:en&q=Depth+of+Field+preview.

Clicking on the first in the list takes you to this page....

Http://www.photozone.de/3Technology/demos/DOFbutton.htm.

Scroll down to the pictures, then rollover the f/number buttons to see a life-like on-screen demo of what the DoF preview does in a camera viewfinder.[Hmmm... I'm thinking the author might have created it just for you!]Regards,Baz..

Comment #11

Barrie Davis wrote:.

Alex Leach wrote:.

DOF preview is something that I have never used on my D200, it's ofnegligible importance in my opinion..

Well, DoF preview is not much use in cropped-sensor dSLRs, anyway.There are exceptions, but generally......

Besides, being a digital camera, you can evaluate DOF by taking a picture and reviewing it on the LCD. Better than looking at a dim viewfinder any day...

Comment #12

I just purchased the E-510 and I really like it and I am learning to use Lightroom to see the full potential of this camera, I gotta tell you this camera takes some of the highest quality photos I've every seen in this price range. I did a lot of research, here I read all the reviews, at http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/oly-e/e510-rev.html I read the review that made up my mind to purchase the Olympus. Take a close look at the photo comparisons here in the reviews and make sure your looking at the Olympus pics with the noise filter off. I guess I'm tainted, but I'd buy the E-510.Tim.

The Nikon is actually heavier than the Olympus...

Comment #13

Zoom = 55 / 18 ( about 3x )..

It's more important to realize that the field of view ( FOV ) and how it relates to 18-55..

On a typical DSLR 18-55 is from wide-ish ( landscape maybe architecture ) to near portrait. It's a very handy range and it's why it's so common on DSLR. After a while people work out what fields of view they normally use and usually get a lens or lenses better suited ( and of better quality ) for that range. It does take time to get a feel for this and for quite a while kit lenses will be fine..

StephenG.

Pentax K100DFuji S5200Fuji E900PCLinuxOS..

Comment #14

I just finished the review on the Nikon D40X and having the Olympus I noticed some pros and cons. Seemed they both come with quality lens although I have heard more about the Zuiko lens quality and more focal lenth, con no AF motor in Nikon limits your lens choice. Fast AF in Nikon although I find the Olympus AF speed is fine. No hard buttons on Nikon (iso & wb), this is a big con if you have dig thru the menu. Reviewer liked the Nikon menu, but there like anything else, once you learn them it's no big deal and the E-510 has pre-sets and hard button to more than make up for it. No dust reduction system, no live view LCD, smaller battery, no image stablization, and less resolution settings for the Nikon.

I find it strange that they only compared this camera to the older E-500 and E-410 models, I wish they had put it side by side with the E-510.Tim..

Comment #15

Cookiej wrote:.

Well, I went to the local camera shop today, to feel for myself thetwo cameras I am comparing..

I seem to *prefer* the Nikon. I like the feel of it, I like how itsnaps the photographs, I like how the lens feels as I adjust it..

You can get great pictures with either camera. At this point, you have to pick a system, not just a body. So you should evaluate if 4/3rds or APS-C format cameras are better for you. There can be religious wars over this topic, so I'll just say that I picked APS-C and I'm happy with the choice, but I'm not shooting a consumer camera body..

In my case, I'm heavily invested in Nikon lenses, and if I wanted to switch to say Canon, I'd take a loss of several thousand dollars. So, if you don't just get a single kit lens and body your investment adds up quickly and you'll be "stuck" with your choice for a long time if you don't want to lose a lot of money. I'm happy with Nikon, and I get the shots I need- at this point I don't see a reason to switch, but it's a consideration..

The Olympus is very nice as well, but it just didn't feel as good tome. A tad bit heavier. Kills me bc of the value (2 lens), but I'mpretty sure I'm going to choose the Nikon. Adding an addl. lens, Ifigure I'll be paying $100 more for the Nikon. Perhaps over the longhaul this is ok.



$100 is fine- you'll have the body for 2-4 years before you upgrade if you get the bug, so it's $5-10 a month difference and the lenses will work on whatever you upgrade to (though they may not be your favorite lenses by then.).

I sensed the Nikon snapped photos a bit faster than the Olympus (as Iwas snapping away). She said this is very possible bc (in herexperience) the Nikon has a *better,* or faster focusing time. Anythoughts or experience, anyone?.

I doubt you'll notice the difference in the real world, but DPR has shutter and shot-to-shot times in the detailed reviews..

I'd love to order the camera from Ritz, since they have a too good topass up deal, but I am really really really a novice here, and Ithink after visiting the shop I am much better off buying my camerafrom the shop. That way any trouble, they are there for me (we knowthe owner from our former church & school). Any thoughts on that ??.

Find out if your shop will match or come close to the online deal. I like supporting local merchants when I can, but a lot depends on availability and price..

I'm enjoying this forum .... I have LOTS to learn! Please offer upany beginner tips!.

First: Lots of people here will throw their own brand choices at you- but the truth is that you can get excellent shots with almost any system these days, so unless you have some corner-case requirements go with your gut and get out and shoot. It's way too easy to obsess over little features that may not affect your normal shooting at all..

Learn to use balanced fill flash for things that aren't landscape/architecture.Shoot from a low perspective.Shoot in portrait mode more often.Learn about the rule of thirds, leading lines and negative space.Shoot more..

Paulhttp://PaulDRobertson.imagekind.com..

Comment #16

For what it's worth, I wouldn't be considering the D40x - I'd be looking at the D40. The 40x gets you a couple of pixels that are pretty close to useless. In exchange you get a noisier shutter, slower maximum flash sync speed, and more high ISO noise..

Not worth the $200 extra IMHO..

I bought the D40 kit and the 55-200mm VR for $622 from Amazon.com That included next day shipping and 2 UV filters to protect the lenses. I really wanted the 18-200VR for the single lens convenience, but that lens would have doubled my cost to cover the exact same range..

Don't let the lack of buttons bother you. The Fn button is programmable to get access to white balance, and the Nikon Auto ISO system means that you very, very rarely have to go "digging in menus" to change the ISO..

I had all Olympus gear in the film world - and loved it. However, I got the a Nikon DSLR because I was tired of being "on the fringe". Every accessory, book, class, etc. in the photography world seems to be based on Canon/Nikon. Right or wrong - they have the market share and the 3rd parties know it. Had the same experience owning a Dodge truck and seeing all the great accessories for Ford and Chevy..

In the end though, you make so much more difference to your shots than does the camera that obscessing over the equipment is a waste of time. The camera in your hand always takes better pictures than the one still at the store!.

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