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Nikon D40 vs. Canon XT
I have done some research and narrowed my choice down to these two models. Seems like they both give great bang for the buck in my price range. I have been unable to get a clear picture on the following questions, however. Thanks in advance for your input..

- Does one camera have significantly better shutter lag? I didn't notice much difference in the store. (I will be taking pix of the kids indoors and don't want to miss my shots due to shutter lag or autofocus hunting. This CNET review seems to think the XT is considerably better, but I have heard posts rave about the D40 here, too: http://reviews.cnet.com/...40-w-18mm/4505-6501_7-32156779.html?tag=prod.txt.1).

- Will one brand cost me a lot more for accessories? (I am starting from scratch and would like to eventually get a low-cost 70-200ish, intro bounce flash, and perhaps a prime in the 30-50 range).

- Has anyone had any problems with durability on either? Nikon seems a little more sturdy to me..

- Any other things that you wish you had known prior to purchasing but didn't learn until you had the camera for a few months (beyond the obvious differences)?..

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One other thing I forgot to mention - how annoying is the small LCD on the XT? I am coming from a P&S so it doesn't seem that bad. Are there cases in which you wish you had the larger screen (I am not that concerned with showing off pix. More interested in immediate feedback)..

Tx...

Comment #1

I am really glad you didn't ask about the D40x. Because I consider it a waste of $..

The Nikon has faster focus and better low light focus, but Canon has more focus points. In my experience I use the center focus with reframing, and in less than 1% of photos I use the other ones....

Nikon has dead on metering, and Canon is very close usually. Offcourse you can change that on both, manually..

Canon supports all Canon lenses, and the Nikon only the newer ones with autofocus motor.Canon has plastic look on the skin, sometimes.Nikon is more sturdy and ergonomic..

I would recommend in this order:Best: D80-then D40/400D-tnen 350D-then D40x.

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Dejan Malikovski wrote:.

I am really glad you didn't ask about the D40x. Because I consider ita waste of $..

I don't want to hijack this topic but can I ask why you say this?.

I'm currently split between buying the D40 or D40x. I'd almost decided on the D40 but then did some shots at the weekend at a wildlife park (with my 6mp digital p&s) which required some cropping and am now swaying towards the D40x for the extra megapixels..

Why do you consider it a waste of $?.

Lynn..

Comment #3

Lynndy Lou wrote:.

Why do you consider it a waste of $?.

Well at any point you can try and download an image from both cameras (sample) in jpg or nef and compare them after cropping. Because you were cropping a p&s photo,you get bad results. D40 has almost no noise, perfect image quality and so on....

BUT the main reason that makes me sick, is that the D40x is made for the people that want to say that they have "a 10 megapixel camera"..

BUT 2 the second reason that I think D40x is not worth is because the difference in price with D80 is not much and should be considered. D80 has more features, accepts all Nikon Lenses, can control remote flashes, and so on... If you have money to spare get the D80, that simple. That is my oppinion..

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Comment #4

Contrary to what some persons say, the XT is an excellent camerasome think it is better than the XTi. Rather than take the opinion of persons on this forum (including me), I suggest that you go to a store and try them out. Buy the one that you think you will use most..

Jerryhttp://jchoate.zenfolio.com/..

Comment #5

D40 because of the 18-200VR lens. It's not a cheap lens, but with it you will have a camera you can take anywhere and shoot anything. No need to get a 70-200 later. Canon has no comparable lens. As a novice, the VRII on it will make a lot of your photos in low light good, that otherwise would have been lost. Trust me, with this combo, as a DSLR beginner (I'm assuming you don't have a lot of film SLR experience, forgive me if I'm wrong), you will take more good pictures than you would with a much more expensive body and a cheap kit lens.



Http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/18200.htm#index..

Comment #6

Dejan Malikovski wrote:.

If you have money to spare get the D80.

Hi Dejan,.

I would like to piggy back on the previous thought you had. Do you think the D80 is that much better for someone new to DLSR? I did what everyone recommends and went to the store and tried the D40 and D80. I really love the viewfinder on the D80 and the grip feels awesome. I also like the idea of using the flash commander but I don't know how useful that feature really is? Is it better to have the flash off to the side or on the TTL spot?.

I am very serious about learning photography and have been reading books and internet articles on photography. I am ready to make the dive. After I get a camera, I also plan on taking some continuing education classes at the local college to have get advice from the professor and the other students. One of my first projects will be to take some family photos. The wife has one "honey do" and that is to take some pics of my mother-in-law in her Korean Hanbok. She wants the best photo to be enlarged to 20"x30" (or closest appropriate size) and framed.

Could I also accomplish the same thing with the D40? We are planning to do some of the DIY photostudio stuff (make muslin backgrounds, softlights, etc.). Would appreciate your thoughts...

Comment #7

My XT just plain stopped working a couple of months after I bought it. Canon fixed it under warranty, and it has been perfect ever since..

Can't comment on the Nikon..

Accessories from companies other than Canon and Nikon, of course, are pretty much the same price for other model. That takes care of studio style flash, third-party (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, etc.) lenses, handheld exposure meters, etc..

You can visit B&H's web site and figure out flash prices; basic flash, extension cord, wireless triggers, etc. but it will probably turn out pretty close..

I think the real deal-breaker would be the Nikon's limited range of auxiliary lenses and this doesn't matter unless you want a lot of lenses and the number of focus points in the viewfinder..

BAK..

Comment #8

BK421 wrote:.

Dejan Malikovski wrote:.

If you have money to spare get the D80.

Hi Dejan,.

I would like to piggy back on the previous thought you had. Do youthink the D80 is that much better for someone new to DLSR? I didwhat everyone recommends and went to the store and tried the D40 andD80. I really love the viewfinder on the D80 and the grip feelsawesome. I also like the idea of using the flash commander but Idon't know how useful that feature really is? Is it better to havethe flash off to the side or on the TTL spot?.

I am very serious about learning photography and have been readingbooks and internet articles on photography. I am ready to make thedive. After I get a camera, I also plan on taking some continuingeducation classes at the local college to have get advice from theprofessor and the other students. One of my first projects will beto take some family photos. The wife has one "honey do" and that isto take some pics of my mother-in-law in her Korean Hanbok. Shewants the best photo to be enlarged to 20"x30" (or closestappropriate size) and framed.

Could I also accomplish the same thing with the D40?We are planning to do some of the DIY photostudio stuff (make muslinbackgrounds, softlights, etc.). Would appreciate your thoughts..

Woohoo... wait! I was talking about D40x (not D40!!!) and saying that D80 is much better than D40x in terms of WHOLE pack, with price and all. I havent ever said a bad word for the D40, yet. The D40 is a marvelous camera, a true gem. And the cost of it? Can't get lower than that. A bargain.

Really! That is it!.

But don't get me wrong here! With the added price of D40x you get only useless things, that have no value in the real world. I said: "If you plan to waste money on D40x (Not D40!!!) you are better off with a D80, which has a lot more features." So the only real caneras are the D40 and D80, while the D40x is a waste of money..

Now the question of studio and portraits. D40 does not focus with non-motor lenses, and in the real world that means there is only 1 prime lens (wit normal price) that will focus on it. That is the Sigma 30mm. A remarkable lens for it's price.If you need to use prime lenses, aside from the Sigma 30mm you need the D80..

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Comment #9

Dejan Malikovski wrote:.

Woohoo... wait! I was talking about D40x (not D40!!!) and saying thatD80 is much better than D40x in terms of WHOLE pack, with price andall. I havent ever said a bad word for the D40, yet. The D40 is amarvelous camera, a true gem. And the cost of it? Can't get lowerthan that. A bargain.

Really!.

Cool. I was originally asking about the D40 vs the D80. I am totally on board with not going the D40x route.   I just wanted to know the value of someone going straight to D80 instead of the D40 because of the D80's viewfinder, more features, able to use more lenses with auto focus, etc. I think I am just asking myself if it is worth the cost over the D40. I probably just need to dive in at the cost of the D40 + other goodies and decide if I need the extra features later. Thanks...

Comment #10

Odd. The longest focal length Ken uses in his samples for the 18-200 is 70mm. I wouldv'e thought his samples would include a greated focal range..

Just an observation....

Leehttp://leem.smugmug.com..

Comment #11

I have used both and find the 40D it be more comfortable. The Canon accessories (lenses, flashes, etc.) may be easier to get in the used market... although only marginal difference..

You can't go wrong with either choice..

I included a copy of my personal file on both the cameras for you. Once you decide which one to buy, you will then have convenient access to all the user documentation and customer service links..

Nikon D40 http://personafile.com/...D-10.1-Megapixel-3%22-LCD-Monitor-P013803002112.htm.

Canon 300D http://personafile.com/...l-Rebel-6.3-Megapixel-18-55mm-Lens-013803028997.htm.

A Few Of My Favorite:http://personafile.com/kcair/public..

Comment #12

I have owned both...having said that, they are both great cameras. the rebel xt took amazing photo's...len's are cheaper for the xt. but the kit lens with the D40 is much better! lens' for the D40 are more expensive but for a few hundred bucks, only a hundred more than the canon, you get a great lens (55-200mm) to compliment the already great kit lens. I found the canon was not as sharp. anyway, I love the big screen on the D40, the screen was to small on the XT but it did have the info display which is kinda nice, but don't really miss it, I currently own a D40 and I love the way it feels in my hand much more than the XT, what it came down to was which I like in my hands, and I have never had an issue with the autofocus or shutter lag on the D40, it's just as good as the XT was, so either way you will be happy, but be sure to hold both and see what feels better because that is what you will be dealing with while shooting, but if I had to choose again, I'd pick the D40...picture quality is amazing! I will never leave nikon again, unless I get a free canon  have fun and keep shootin'!.

Rob..

Comment #13

Rob D40 wrote:.

If I had tochoose again, I'd pick the D40...picture quality is amazing! I willnever leave nikon again, unless I get a free canon  have fun.

Finally someone that has seen the light! Exactly my thoughts, you are a mindreader! God bless you!.

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Comment #14

Is being a mind reader, hah..just joking of course, but yes, after using canon all my life, with the powershot, then the S2, then the rebel XT, taking the jump to nikon was big for me, but now that I have, I can't turn back! next camera...the D300, once the price drops of course! lol....

Rob..

Comment #15

Valid observation. Seems like he mostly compared it to his 17-35 2.8. He mentions doing a comparison with 80-200 2.8 but I guess didn't get around to it. Looks like he mostly utilizes it for it's unique wide angle VR...

Comment #16

For my $$, the issue would be the fact that the XT works with *any* Canon-made EF lens built since 1987 with full functionality..

The Nikon D40 will only autofocus with the newer "DX" lenses - it lacks the focus drive motor in the body so will not AF with older lenses. electrical contacts are the same, so full aperture control is retained..

Other than that, get the one that fits your hand best..

Cheers,S.**My XT IS Full Frame APS-C/FF of course!*****So is my 5D 35mm/FF**..

Comment #17

I find myself in the same cunundrum you are in. I want to get a 340d, but thats just because it's a canon, but I also want great picture quality. and the d40, bit the d40x, has had some awesome reviews, none the less I dont know what to do, right now I think I'm getting a d40 for the price, but I dont know. what do you guys think?..

Comment #18

I like the D40, as you can read above, it just feels better in my hand, not as good as the D80 of course, but close, hah...and since that is where the camera is 90 percent of the time, thats very important. Also, the Nikon has such a nice soft shutter sound, the rebel is louder and more plasticky sounding if that makes sense! not that it's a deciding factor, but it's nice!.

Rob..

Comment #19

Here is my philosphy on deciding between two very great cameras. Choose the one that feels best to you. That way you will take more pictures, learn more features, and become a better photographer. I included my personal file for the Nikon D40 and the Canon XT so once you decided which one to buy you will have access to all the user documentation and customer service links..

Http://personafile.com/...6.1-Megapixel-Digital-Camera-D40-P0182080000113.htm.

Http://personafile.com/...ebel-350D-XT-8.0-Megapixel-18-55mm-013803049640.htmA Few Of My Favorite:http://personafile.com/kcair/public..

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