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Nikon d40 or Canon g9?
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I need to buy a new camera. I am a freelance graphic designer and sometimes I need to take product shots for sales catalogue and what not. I took a year of photography at college and although I am not a professional I understand the basics and a little bit more..

I wanted to get a Canon G9. It seem to have everything that I want or need but my brother in law, who recently purchased a nikon D40x, tells me to go with the d40. My budget tops at $500..

This is what I am going to be using my camera for:.

- Product shots of small objects like jewelry or perfume bottles. real estate, buildings,- Pictures of my 1 1/2 baby boy, family events and trips..

What I like of the G9:.

Seems to have all the bells and whistles, 12 MP, ability to add a flash, RAW, manual settings for everything, great 3" screen and the ability to take it with me everywhere (not too big)..

The nikon D40.

More professional feel. Ability to add lenses later on although I dont see myself doing it but is nice to know that I could. Faster, no shuter lag..

But I am not too thrilled that the d40 only has 6MP. I know that now days MP are overrated but 8 or more would have been nice Also it seems that you cant use the LCD for compossing pictures forcing you to use the viewfinder, is this true? The size also would make it a bit uncomfortable to carry around on family trips..

But for my work it seems that a DSLR camera would be a better investment. There is more credibily on your work when a client see you arrive with a DSRL than with a point and shoot. Also it seems that even thou the D40 has "only" 6MP, it is capable of taking better pictures than the G9..

Could you help me decide and tell me what are the real diferences in term of performance between these two and what would better fit my needs, thanks..

HDSalinas..

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Hdsalinas wrote:.

- Product shots of small objects like jewelry or perfume bottles.real estate, buildings,.

Jewelry and other small product photography.

Lighting setup becomes important. Drop by the Lighting Technique forum. Might also be worth your time to look into table-top tripods and focusing rails..

Note 'kit' lenses for DSLRs tend to be reasonably well suited for portraiture under good light, but they rarely are targeted at macro photography..

Interiors tend to call for wide angles, since you are not that likely to be able to back up, and the perspective would be different even if you could..

- Pictures of my 1 1/2 baby boy, family events and trips..

Kit lenses would suffice for outdoors. Indoors... with an infant, whom I might be reluctant to fire a flash at, a fast medium telephoto would be handy..

What I like of the G9:Seems to have all the bells and whistles, 12 MP, ability to add aflash, RAW, manual settings for everything, great 3" screen and theability to take it with me everywhere (not too big)..

MP are a bit overrated for most users, particularly coming from small sensors..

The nikon D40More professional feel. Ability to add lenses later on although Idont see myself doing it but is nice to know that I could. Faster, noshuter lag..

There's still going to be some lag. Phase-detection AF tends to be faster than sensor-based contrast-detection AF, 'tho..

But I am not too thrilled that the d40 only has 6MP. I know that nowdays MP are overrated but 8 or more would have been nice Also it.

For most users, yes. Obvious exceptions include.

- those who expect to crop a lot photographing subjects that one cannot approach to 'reasonable' distances (astrophotography, birds at altitude, large predators you might not -want- to approach, whatnot); extreme macro w/ a suitable lens.

- those who NEED lots of detail, like professional landscape photographers aiming for the really, really big prints that can compete with MF/LF but these people often use either MF/LF film or MF digital backs ($ !) instead of high-MP compact cameras for very sound reasons.

It should also be noted that not all MP are created equal..

Seems that you cant use the LCD for compossing pictures forcing youto use the viewfinder, is this true?.

True for most DSLRs on the market, including the D40. Note that since it's TTL optical, there are no latency / frame rate issues with it which might be helpful if you're trying to catch a fleeting expression..

The size also would make it a bit uncomfortable to carry around on family trips..

Many DSLR owners also have a compact camera. Portability is one of the reasons..

But for my work it seems that a DSLR camera would be a betterinvestment. There is more credibily on your work when a client seeyou arrive with a DSRL than with a point and shoot. Also it seemsthat even thou the D40 has "only" 6MP, it is capable of taking betterpictures than the G9..

There are situations in which it might be advantageous to use an SLR. The larger sensors and larger pixels tend to fare better when you're bumping up ISO, for instance. The overall performance focusing speed, lack of viewfinder latency issues, ease of control, et al tends to let you get more usable shots in more situations...

Comment #1

Your brother in law is correct. D40 over D40x. The DSLR giver remarkable performance and cannot be compared in anything except size. If you like a smaller camera then get the G7/G9. And don't let the MP fool you, A DSLR with 4-6MP would give sharper images than a P&S with 10+MP. And SLR gives you much more controll among other things, and in the same time ISO performance.



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Comment #2

Good answer..

I'd add that the G9 is a very nice camera ( from review ) but it is not a DSLR..

I'd suggest that for work you focus on an entry level DSLR. Those 6Mp on the D40 ( or my K100D ) are really significantly better pixels than those on any compact. You will not see this until you look in at 100%. Up until last year-ish a 6Mp DSLR was considered good enough for professional standard..

Composing with a viewfinder is the best way. Even an EVF ( electronic viewfinder ) is better than an LCD..

You can get relatively simple "desktop studio" setups ( with a light tent ) from a lot of places. These include lighting. It's not pro standard, but it is effective and can usually pack up easily into you car..

If you need a home camera get a home camera - try a Fuji F30/31 if you can get one..

StephenG.

Pentax K100DFuji S5200Fuji E900PCLinuxOS..

Comment #3

Amazon.com has the d40 (6MP) with lens kit for $492. The d40x with 10.2 MP and lens kit goes for $642, is the extre 4mp worth the price difference?HDSalinas..

Comment #4

Get an SB-400 or SB-800 for the difference or a prime like Sigma 30mm f1.4That is my suggestion..

Hdsalinas wrote:.

Amazon.com has the d40 (6MP) with lens kit for $492. The d40x with10.2 MP and lens kit goes for $642, is the extre 4mp worth the pricedifference?HDSalinas.

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One more question, my dad used to have a film SLR canon AE-1 (I think). He might still have a ew lenses for it, would they fit the body of this Nikon?HDSalinas..

Comment #6

No. Canon lenses will not fit on any Nikon body..

I'm not a Canon guy, but I don't think the AE-1 lenses will even fit a Canon DSLR..

Hdsalinas wrote:.

One more question, my dad used to have a film SLR canon AE-1 (Ithink). He might still have a ew lenses for it, would they fit thebody of this Nikon?HDSalinas.

PatcoA photograph is more than a bunch of pixels..

Comment #7

You might also want to consider a D50 which Adorama has at 399.00 for a factory refurbished. The D50 will autofocus the lenses that require a motor in the body which the D40 doesn't have. You might like some of the primes like the 50 1.8 and 85 1.8 for low light photography. They are 6.1 mp as well. Daveplease visit my gallery athttp://www.poperotzy.smugmug.comThere is a link for saving on your own Smugmug account..

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Patco wrote:.

I'm not a Canon guy, but I don't think the AE-1 lenses will even fita Canon DSLR..

Correct..

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Comment #9

I'd recommend the DSLR, especially for taking pictures of kids. It's frustrating to always miss that shot by a few 10ths of a second..

Don't forget to check out the used market. In addition to Nikon, I wouldn't be afraid of a Canon 10D or 20D either. Your local craigslist.org or Fredmiranda.com are good sources. eBay might be okay but there are a lot of camera scammers to sort through...

Comment #10

Mmalleck wrote:.

Don't forget to check out the used market. In addition to Nikon, Iwouldn't be afraid of a Canon 10D or 20D either..

I wouldn't be afraid of a 10D, but I wouldn't buy one, either. It's a great camera for it's time, but it's been surpassed a few times over. The handling is just too slow, and the likelyhood of finding one with "low miles" isn't great. You can get one for about $300 if you look around, but for $450 you can get a brand new 350D, which is a much more responsive camera..

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Comment #11

Point taken, I haven't tried the newer Rebel dSLRs. The 350D looks like it offers a lot of bang for the buck...

Comment #12

What is a reasonably priced wide angle lens for the D40 and D40X?..

Comment #13

Sigma 10-20mm cherished by every single person that has it or wants it, or saw it, or used it..

Sgt_Strider wrote:.

What is a reasonably priced wide angle lens for the D40 and D40X?.

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Comment #14

It depends what you mean by wide-angle. The Sigma already mentioned gets good reviews but 18mm is wide angle. If you want something better than the kit lens the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 HSM is worth considering..

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Comment #15

Does Nikon or any other manufacturers have any lens that would give the wide angle capabilities of a Canon G9 with Raynox 7000? I think with that setup, the Canon can go as wide as 24mm and I think that's a 35mm equivalent. I'm not sure if those measurements that you provided are 35mm equivalent or not. I'm a newbie when it comes to DSLR, but I always thought DSLR lens numbers don't compare to consumer lens like the Raynox 7000...

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Sgt_Strider wrote:.

Does Nikon or any other manufacturers have any lens that would givethe wide angle capabilities of a Canon G9 with Raynox 7000? I thinkwith that setup, the Canon can go as wide as 24mm and I think that'sa 35mm equivalent..

That's not wide!.

The Sigma 10-20mm gives you 15-30mm in "35mm equivalent" on Nikon, Pentax and Sony, 16-32mm on Canon..

Not to mention the kit lenses give you around 27mm (in 35mm equivalent), which when you take into account the difference in aspect ratio (3:2 vs 4:3) is almost as wide as "24mm" on 4:3..

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Comment #17

Nickleback wrote:.

Sgt_Strider wrote:.

Does Nikon or any other manufacturers have any lens that would givethe wide angle capabilities of a Canon G9 with Raynox 7000? I thinkwith that setup, the Canon can go as wide as 24mm and I think that'sa 35mm equivalent..

That's not wide!.

The Sigma 10-20mm gives you 15-30mm in "35mm equivalent" on Nikon,Pentax and Sony, 16-32mm on Canon..

Not to mention the kit lenses give you around 27mm (in 35mmequivalent), which when you take into account the difference inaspect ratio (3:2 vs 4:3) is almost as wide as "24mm" on 4:3..

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Thanks for the clarification. However, the kit lens don't have VR/IS. Wouldn't this become an issue in low light situations?..

Comment #18

Sgt_Strider wrote:.

Thanks for the clarification. However, the kit lens don't have VR/IS.Wouldn't this become an issue in low light situations?.

At kit lens focal lengths, VR isn't as useful unless you are shooting a static subject. At shutter speeds below 1/60 people can be a blur..

If you want VR/IS in the kit lens, get a sensor-shift DSLR (Pentax K100D or K10D, Sony A100, Olympus E510), or an IS kit lens, arriving soon for Canon:.

Http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082007canonefs18-55and55-250.asp.

Nikon has an inexpensive 55-200VR, so I'd expect an inexpensive 18-55VR soon..

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