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Nikon D40 and Canon XT - Compare lens
Hello everyone.

I am an amateur photographer, planning to buy a new DSLR. After reading a lot of forums and blogs online, I decided to check out the Nikon D40 and Canon XT Rebel/350D at a Best Buy store. I was very comfortable using the Nikon D40. But before buying the camera, I want to know how the lens for these two cameras compare in terms of cost and performance. I was planning to buy the Nikon body only and a 50mm lens. But I found that the 50mm lens costs about 250$ as compared to a canon 50mm lens which costs only about 80$.



Http://www.sigma4less.com/sess/utnjsessionid=1547394aa28fa59/shopdata/product_search.shopscript?query=NI50F18DI&pc=9.

Can anyone please compare the costs and performance of the lenses available for these two cameras? I want a camera that is cheaper in longer term, in terms of lens costs..

Also, I was not able to find a Nikon D40 body only. Does it always come with a 18-55mm lens? Can anyone post the link for Nikon D40 body only, if available?.

Thanks!..

Comments (8)

To bump this thread and maybe help you a little bit:.

As far as I know the d40 only comes with a (very decent) kit lens. The 50mm you talk about, I think, does work on the d40, but only is manual focus(which means you can't use autofocus when using the 50mm). I am not 100% sure so you may have to check the net. Quality-wise the lens is said to be good value for money though..

Can't comment on Canon because my experience with that company is near zero.Practice makes perfect, but obsession makes even better!..

Comment #1

Both cameras come with an 18-55 'kit' zoom lens, although I think the Canon XTi is available as a body-only option so you can add the lens of your choice..

The issue you are referring to with the Nikon lens is that the D40 does not have an autofocus motor built inbto the camera body (which the XT / XTi does). This means that the D40 will only take newer lenses that have an autofocus motor built into the lens itself. There are many of these, some from Nikon and some from Sigma; but as you have found, it means that many good older lenses will only work on the D40 if you are prepared to focus manually (to do this well requires a special split-image focussing screen, as SLR cameras always used to have in manual-focus days). The short answer is that the D40 is an excellent camera but you just need to check that the lenses you buy have the motor built in. Unless your needs are very unusual you will not have trouble finding lenses that go withe the D40..

The 18-55 zoom that comes with the D40 has a good reputation and you might as well get it (actually I don't think there is a choice). the Canon equivalent 18-55 has a poorer reputation, so if you want to go the Canon route, you could get a body alone and then get something like a Tamron 18-50 or Sigma 17-70 standard zoom - more expensive but both very good..

Best wishesMike..

Comment #2

To do this well requires a special split-image focussing screen, as SLR cameras always used to have in manual-focus days.

Mike, can you please elaborate more about this? I am an amateur and dont know much about DSLRs..

Can you also compare the prices of similar lens in Nikon and Canon? I want to keep the long term costs as low as possible..

Also, what lens do you recommend for a starter? will the 18-55 mm lens be good?.

Thanks!Raj..

Comment #3

To do this well requires a special split-image focussing screen, asSLR cameras always used to have in manual-focus days.

Mike, can you please elaborate more about this? I am an amateur anddont know much about DSLRs..

This is an optional extra for more advanced cameras that makes it easier to focus manually (the image is split in half, and the two halves converge when the image is in focus). I doubt it is available on entry-level DSLRs. Don;t worry about it - just make sure that, if you get the Nikon D40, any lens you get for it has an autofocus motor. It won't be a problem - it is usually specified very clearly that a particular lens has a motor in it and is D40/D40X compatible. These lenses are called 'AFS'..

Can you also compare the prices of similar lens in Nikon and Canon? Iwant to keep the long term costs as low as possible..

This is a 'how long is a piece of string' question. For prices have a look at a website such ashttp://www.warehouseexpress.com. Both manufacturers make a very large range of lenses ranging from affordable ones for amateurs to seriously expensive pro-quality lenses. Independent manufacturers (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina) make lenses that will fit both..

Also, what lens do you recommend for a starter? will the 18-55 mmlens be good?.

Yes for the Nikon - the 18-55 kit zoom has a good reputation, less so for the Canon (see recommendations for alternatives in previous post) but it's a good-enough place to start while you play with the camera and get used to it..

Best wishesMike..

Comment #4

Can you please tell me your thoughts about this memory card.

Transcend 2GB 150x SecureDigital Card.

I am planning to get a Nikon d40. Do you think this is fast enough for the camera? My friend told me that I have to get 'extreme' memory cards or else the camera speed will go down. Is it true? If it's true, will this card be good enough?.

Thanks!Raj..

Comment #5

Any current SD card will do fine - you do NOT need the fast ones! and you would just be wasting money on the 'fast' card rather than the 'normal' speed one as the D40 does not write fast enough nor does it have large enough files to make a difference... the 'slowdown' occurs when the camera's buffer fills up - the camera's write speed (not the card's) is the limiting factor here..

To correct Mike (I am certain he meant well), ALL Canon cameras (since 1987) have the motors in the lenses (just like the AF-S for Nikon) not in the bodies. at the time, there was as much angst among Canon users who could no longer use their beloved manual focus lenses as there has been among Nikon users today who find that their new digital body will not autofocus with the older screw-drive lenses..

In practice, the kit lenses from both systems are similar in quality. the issue appears to be that the expectations were high (and not met) in the case of the Canon lens, the Nikon kit lens was not expected to be spectacular (and so did not suffer from failed expectations) - both are completely adequate in what they are: inexpensive lenses to get new users out and shooting. both are adequate for 95% of casual users. both systems have better (and more expensive) lenses for you to spend your hard-earned cash on!.

S.**My XT IS Full Frame APS-C/FF of course!*****So is my 5D 35mm/FF**..

Comment #6

Coolnfunky_raj wrote:.

I was planning to buy the Nikon body only and a 50mmlens. But I found that the 50mm lens costs about 250$ as compared toa canon 50mm lens which costs only about 80$. I found a 50mm lens forNikon that costs 102$ but it says it will not work for D40..

It sounds like you're comparing the Nikon 50mm f/1.4 lens to the Canon 50mm f/1.8 lens. Canon and Nikon make 50mm lenses in f/1.8 and f/1.4 versions; the f/1.8 versions being around $100 and the f/1.4 ones being around $250. (You can also get a Canon 50mm f/1.2 lens, but it costs an arm and a leg.).

As for the D40, and D40x, they can only auto-focus lenses with built-in motors. Many Nikon primes and many third-party lenses do not have such motors..

A third item to consider: on a crop-sensor DSLR like a XT or D40, a 50mm prime will produce a narrower field of view (turning it into a nice portrait lens). If you want a normal lens that is the rough equivalent of a 50mm lens on a 35mm film SLR, you'll need to look at primes in the 30mm to 35mm range...

Comment #7

You will find a list of lenses that will AF on the D40 here:.

Http://www.sigmaphoto.com/news/news.asp?nID=3356.

And here:.

Http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5(scroll down to AF-S).

The D40 and kit lens is an excellent package. There is a good review of the lens here:.

Http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/lenses/nikkor_1855_3556_II/index.htm.

The equivalent Canon lens is reviewed here:.

Http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/lenses/canon_1855_3556/index.htm.

99% of what Mike has said is correct (It is usually 100%!). Two corrections a) Canon lenses moved on to AF-S (to howls of protest) in 1987 b) you do have a focus AID if you get a 50mm D f/1.8 (or f/1.4) prime. A little light lights up in the VF to say you have focus on your subject but you have to turn the focus screw manually..

Neither the f1.8 or f1.4 50mm or 85mm will AF with the D40..

I suggest if you are going with the D40 you get a camera and kit lens and set out from there - decide on other purchases based on your user experience. If you are buying a Canon EOS 350 you are best off looking for a better lens than the kit lens..

Regarding an SD card any fast card will do. Chose one that is 80x or more. Sandisk Extreme IIIs are a good choice. Stick with SD up to 2GB (Nothing wrong with SDHC at 4GB but they bring other complications)..

I disagree with a previous poster that said card speed does not matter. It may not matter much but the cost difference is minimal. First it affects download speed to your PC. With slower cards you have time to make and drink two cups of coffee while downloading a complete 2GB card. Second if you are shooting RAW the files will be much bigger and you will fill the buffer much faster which could be a nuisance with action photography in continous shooting mode. So the previous poster was making assumptions about what would matter to you without stating them..

Hope that helps!.

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

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