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Hello everyone,.

I'm currently studying architecture in university and it has dawned on me that my current camera just doesn't cut it in terms of quality. I have been reading up on photography recently and I'm trying to enhance my knowledge..

I've been looking at cameras and so far I've been interested in the Nikon D40x and the Canon EOS 40D. I'm looking at a camera that would be good at capturing buildings, taking in light, scenery and nature. But I'm also looking for a generally all-round camera that I can take pictures of sports and friends with that won't destroy my back/shoulder. I'd prefer something thats pretty much just point and shoot but can still offer much more depth as I learn more about photography and start to play with the settings (I'm planning to take a photography course in a semester or two so that should be considered as well).

What do you guys recommend ? .

Karimi..

Comments (7)

There is no point getting a DSLR to use Auto. Not that you cannot but the idea is silly - you loose a whole raft of functionality !.

You'd be better of starting with a bridge camera like a Fuji S9100/9600 or S6000/6500...

Anything more than a basic entry level DSLR with kit lenses would be a waste of money - you'd never scratch the surface of a DSLR above entry level..

StephenG.

Pentax K100DFuji S5200Fuji E900PCLinuxOS..

Comment #1

Karimi wrote:.

Hello everyone,.

I'm currently studying architecture in university and it has dawnedon me that my current camera just doesn't cut it in terms of quality.I have been reading up on photography recently and I'm trying toenhance my knowledge..

I've been looking at cameras and so far I've been interested in theNikon D40x and the Canon EOS 40D..

Both are in different league. Why not others?.

I'm looking at a camera that wouldbe good at capturing buildings, taking in light, scenery and nature..

You need good lens for that..

But I'm also looking for a generally all-round camera that I can takepictures of sports and friends with that won't destroy myback/shoulder. I'd prefer something thats pretty much just point andshoot but can still offer much more depth as I learn more aboutphotography and start to play with the settings (I'm planning to takea photography course in a semester or two so that should beconsidered as well).

Have a look at Olympus E510 with twin lens kit. Thease kit lenses are better than the other brands (better corner to corner sharpness, less vignetting)(Except Panasonic L10's Leica one). You get image-satbilzation too (CCD shift type).Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612..

Comment #2

Firstly since you are looking to buy your first DSLR, I would get a Nikon D40, you don't need the D40x. I had them both and the D40 is much better (and alot cheaper). Spend the money you save on a nice zoom lens..

Don't be fooled by the whole Megapixel issue. 6MP is more than enough unless you are planning on printing photos larger than 12 X 15". Camera marketing has led ppl to believe they need these larger megapixel cameras which is completely untrue. MP's are the only way to marketa DSLR camera to a comact point and shoot consumer; they couldnt use marketing saying "the D40x has great ISO noise or great auto metering", people wouldn't understand so they use Megapixel marketing instead. The D40 is more sensitive to light than the D40x and it has a faster flash sync speed. This is very important to creating good photo's.



I bought my D40 from beachcamera.com for $479 w/ shipping and a memory card. You don't need to buy on Ebay as there are better deals out there from established sellers who won't rip you off..

Hope that helps...

Comment #3

Karimi:.

As others have said, using a dslr as a point and shoot is not what it is designed for and might not be the best long term goal. DSLRs have some disadvantages and you really need to make use of their advantages..

I agree with others who have said that the most sensible move is likely to be to pick up what used to be called a "prosumer" point and shoot. Things like the Canon G5 - G9 series or the superzooms, e.g., the Canon S3-S? IS series or the Sony H1-H? series Panasonic also has reasonable contenders in this class..

You can then learn much of the mumbo-jumbo and do hands-on learning with things like aperture, shutter speed, and iso adjustments at your own pace the abovementioned class of cameras all have adjustment buttons and wheels..

You are an architect, so you undoubtedly know about light and what makes a good picture. A good eye goes much further than bags and bags of expensive equipment ..... certainly while you are learning..

You should know that shooting sports will be tough with a point and shoot, but you a looking a about 4x the investment just to get what is regarded as the standard camera-lens combo for amateur sports don't even talk about trying to shoot pros sports. And then you still won't have the lenses you need to shoot architecture and landscapes..

One of the dilemnas you and others will encounter is that the cost of a good point and shoot (similar to those mentioned above) will be about the same as an entry level DSLR, e.g., the Nikon D40, D40x or the Canon 350 or 400, and kit lens. Unfortunately, the price of the lenses for the DSLR will quickly get out of hand essentially anything you buy will be at least $300, with only a couple of exceptions. I suspect that this pricing is by design rather than accidental the real money is in lenses and accessories, not the cameras themselves..

I hope that this helps,msc.

I'm currently studying architecture in university and it has dawnedon me that my current camera just doesn't cut it in terms of quality.I have been reading up on photography recently and I'm trying toenhance my knowledge..

I've been looking at cameras and so far I've been interested in theNikon D40x and the Canon EOS 40D. I'm looking at a camera that wouldbe good at capturing buildings, taking in light, scenery and nature.But I'm also looking for a generally all-round camera that I can takepictures of sports and friends with that won't destroy myback/shoulder. I'd prefer something thats pretty much just point andshoot but can still offer much more depth as I learn more aboutphotography and start to play with the settings (I'm planning to takea photography course in a semester or two so that should beconsidered as well).

What do you guys recommend ? .

Karimi..

Comment #4

Just a couple general comments -.

I think the recommendations to consider a bridge type camera in addition to a dslr would be something you should explore. All of the bridge cameras will provide a good tool for learning photography and they have a video mode (? not sure if thats important to you) which dslrs do not..

I would be a little leary of getting too much camera because the learning curve can be steep. For that reason I would stick to considering entry level dslrs. The Canon 40d is not an entry level dslr. Look at the xti instead and other brands as well. There is still quite a learning curve but all of them have auto and scene modes which are easy to use and give great results..

Also go to the store and handle the various cameras. As you mentioned, you want something you'll be comfortable handling...

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Can you recommend any good lenses ? (For the D40X) Or at least what you think I should be looking for in the future...

Comment #6

Karimi:.

Can you recommend any good lenses ? (For the D40X) Or at least whatyou think I should be looking for in the future..

The D40 and D40x will require lenses which have AFS (for Nikkor lenses) or HSM (for Sigma lenses).There is a wide range of selections here I'll just point out a few..

For landscapes and architecture use, the best two options are.

Sigma 10-20 mm: about $500Nikkor 12-24 mm: a bit over $900.

Most would say that these are roughly the same in quality with the Nikkor being preferred if you are in the money is no object mode..

For general use at a reasonable price many would suggest:.

Nikkor 18-55 mm II: $120Nikkor 18-70 mm: $340Nikkor 18-135 mm: $330.

Sigma 18-50 mm: $500.

There is a version of the 18-55 which has VR (vibration reduction) which will be coming out at less than twice the price of the non-VR one..

The Sigma 18-50 has a fixed aperture of f/2.8 and ought to be better for low light moving subjects and will give better background blur..

Much more expensive lenses ($1K +) in the focal length range are also available..

A very expensive Nikkor 18-200 VR is also suggested by many people as an all around lens, but it costs $700..

If you don't need the f/2.8, my suggestion would be the 18-135 mm as a good reasonably priced all-around starter lens. It can do some landscapes and architecture at the wide end and the 135 mm is reasonable for portraits and informal frisbee/soccer/... games in good light..

For longer shots in good light, the Nikkor 70-300 mm VR is well respected and only about $400. Another longer zoom is the 55-200 VR which is about $230..

For low light sports, it will get much more expensive. At best you are looking at nearly$1k to over $1K to several thousand dollars..

I hope that this helps. I'm sure that many other suggestions will come in oncethis is posted. Keep asking questions..

Msc..

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