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'New' to Camera and after a DSLR and I'm rather confused
Greetings, I'm not the most tech savvy photographer out there, and like most newbs all the jargon is rather confusing, so my person inability aside, I'd like some advice from the more experienced SLR user..

I have a budget of about up to $2000(Australian), and I want a camera can have images blown up to at minimum a4 but ideally a3-2 I'm a graphic design student so my main concern is printing big. I know that for 2000 that isn't going to get me anything that crash hot....

So here what I've found so far the Nikon D80 with a AF-S DC 16-200mm VR lens for $1999 with double warranty, "save $100". Seems to be one of my best options, with the built in flash and flash, it seems like a good choice..

But I could most likely be wrong, so what does the community think?..

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Is that a kit packaged by a store? Is the flash a nikon flash or generic? Generic ones packaged tend to be worthless. I don't know AU prices so I cannot comment on the price..

A D80 will print large just as good as anything else in your price range. 18-200 is a good do all lens. It has an amazing range but you may not get quite as good of images as with a lens of similiar quality with a more modest focal length range. (I'm trying to say the lens would likely be your limiting factor with print size)..

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Yeah it's a package deal with Camera house (A camera supplier).

2000AUD is 1,965.24USD if that helps, so pretty much the same thing..

So you reckon a lens would be my problem? How does the lens effect the ability to print larger? I really didn't know it effected it..

Also the flash is just the flash included with the camera, I know it's pretty much worthless but I don't plan on needing to use it for anything but happy unprofessional snaps. I'm a big fan of actually having proper lighting set up for camera shoots...

Comment #2

Jmwm858 wrote:.

Greetings, I'm not the most tech savvy photographer out there, andlike most newbs all the jargon is rather confusing, so my personinability aside, I'd like some advice from the more experienced SLRuser..

I have a budget of about up to $2000(Australian), and I want a cameracan have images blown up to at minimum a4 but ideally a3-2 I'm agraphic design student so my main concern is printing big. I knowthat for 2000 that isn't going to get me anything that crash hot....

So here what I've found so far the Nikon D80 with a AF-S DC 16-200mmVR lens for $1999 with double warranty, "save $100". Seems to be oneof my best options, with the built in flash and flash, it seems likea good choice..

But I could most likely be wrong, so what does the community think?.

D80 is a great camera. But, for the best extra-large prints, consider a Canon 5D. IQ the same as Nikon D3. You would use almost your whole budget just for the body, but it will give you the most "enlargeable" images...

Comment #3

I just don't think that pictures that are not critically sharp really make for good enlargements. I'm not saying the 18-200 is a bad lens, just if your main goal is making very large prints you might be better off with something that can capture the fine detail better..

In the US a D80 + 18-200 would go for under $1500 online..

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If you go Nikon and shoot RAW check if Capture NX is bundled or you will have to pay for it, assuming you wanted to use it and not some other pp package.Shay son of Che..

Comment #5

Hmmm... you seem to be right, 1999 is a bit over priced, thanks I'll defiantly be looking for a camera with a small lens now, you saved me one...

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Shay guevara wrote:.

If you go Nikon and shoot RAW check if Capture NX is bundled or youwill have to pay for it, assuming you wanted to use it and not someother pp package.Shay son of Che.

I have Photoshop CS3 So I'm hoping it'll work with that, but seeming I have that I could probable make my camera that I end up purchasing cheaper by looking for a camera without capture programs...

Comment #7

Greg Nut wrote:.

D80 is a great camera. But, for the best extra-large prints,consider a Canon 5D. IQ the same as Nikon D3. You would use almostyour whole budget just for the body, but it will give you the most"enlargeable" images..

You're right, the Canon EOS 5D seem like more of a camera I would want, but your right it is a bit too expensive... Tho, I am going to be using a friends Company to purchase it, meaning I should get all tax off, and maybe even a Company deal meaning I could save up to 400 hundred.. which mean I could buy a carry bag, memory card. But obviously I can't afford a lens... which is a necessity seeming this camera has such a issue with dust... Hmm...



I'm not sure if I'm wrong or not but it seems that the D80 can print a maximum of one a4 page due to 300dpi being used, and for an extra like 1000bucks it can print a only a few cm bigger... is that right?..

Comment #8

Budget for a half decent tripod and a good lens if you want to print large. True a 5D will give exceptional quality but you'll need a good lens and tripod on top of that to realize the potential for the sort of photography you seem to be interested in..

Spend on the lens and the tripod (and remote release). Get the best body you can that has the features you need with budget left over. If you get a good lens and tripod you'll keep those for a long time. You'll upgrade the body sooner since it will wear out or be replaced by something newer, better, and less expensive..

Think something in the 200-300 USD range for a low end tripod and head at a minimum.Also see: http://www.bythom.com/support.htm.

Consider a good used tripod and or head to cut cost. Think names like Bogen/Manfrotto, Gitzo for legs. Bogen/Manfrotto for low end heads, Markins, Really Right Stuff for better heads. As long as they haven't been radically abused a good tripod and head is not much of a gamble to buy used if the seller is reputable. YMMV..

PS: Really really don't skimp on the tripod and head. Get a tripod and head combination that's rated for two to three times the weight of your body plus heaviest lens...

Comment #9

Mrxdimension wrote:.

Budget for a half decent tripod and a good lens if you want to printlarge. True a 5D will give exceptional quality but you'll need agood lens and tripod on top of that to realize the potential for thesort of photography you seem to be interested in..

Spend on the lens and the tripod (and remote release). Get the bestbody you can that has the features you need with budget left over.If you get a good lens and tripod you'll keep those for a long time.You'll upgrade the body sooner since it will wear out or be replacedby something newer, better, and less expensive..

Think something in the 200-300 USD range for a low end tripod andhead at a minimum.Also see: http://www.bythom.com/support.htm.

Consider a good used tripod and or head to cut cost. Think nameslike Bogen/Manfrotto, Gitzo for legs. Bogen/Manfrotto for low endheads, Markins, Really Right Stuff for better heads. As long as theyhaven't been radically abused a good tripod and head is not much of agamble to buy used if the seller is reputable. YMMV..

PS: Really really don't skimp on the tripod and head. Get a tripodand head combination that's rated for two to three times the weightof your body plus heaviest lens..

I think you might be right, I think I'll have to settle for something cheaper than the 5D because there's no way I can afford to get everything for it...

Comment #10

Jmwm858 wrote:.

Greg Nut wrote:.

D80 is a great camera. But, for the best extra-large prints,consider a Canon 5D. IQ the same as Nikon D3. You would use almostyour whole budget just for the body, but it will give you the most"enlargeable" images..

You're right, the Canon EOS 5D seem like more of a camera I wouldwant, but your right it is a bit too expensive... Tho, I am going tobe using a friends Company to purchase it, meaning I should get alltax off, and maybe even a Company deal meaning I could save up to 400hundred.. which mean I could buy a carry bag, memory card. Butobviously I can't afford a lens... which is a necessity seeming thiscamera has such a issue with dust... Hmm...



I'm not sure if I'm wrong or not but it seems that the D80 can printa maximum of one a4 page due to 300dpi being used, and for an extralike 1000bucks it can print a only a few cm bigger... is that right?.

It's not so much the 2 megapixels as it is the full-frame sensor. The standard lenses for the 5D are the 24-70L and 24-105L. Both are over $1000. The consumer-grade zooms aren't sharp enough for a 5D. That leaves a couple primes. Or the 17-40L, if you're into extreme WA..

You might even look at the XSi. Not as nice as the D80 in many ways, but sure has the resolution, if that's your top concern...

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