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Hello all....thanks for the informative forum. I have been reading here for a few weeks ..trying to research what type of DSLR I want to purchase. I am open to all suggestions, and am curious what you may think.This is what I am looking for....

I am primarily going to be shooting sporting events. Some indoors...others fairly low light..

I have been deciding between the D40/x, but am curious what other comparable cameras are out there I should consider?.

What lenses should I be looking at for these type conditions?.

Price is definitely a factor as I am just getting started..

Thanks for all your help...you have been great so far!..

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Alztybrn wrote:.

I am primarily going to be shooting sporting events. Someindoors...others fairly low light..

I have been deciding between the D40/x.

What sports? That would decide what lens(es) to start with..

The D40 and D40x aren't great for this application. Indoor sports are low light. Fast prime lenses are what you want. The D40 and D40x will not AF most of the lenses available in this range. Not to mention slow continuous shooting..

Probably the best deal is a close-out Canon 30D. You can find them body-only for $800 or less. If you can still find one, they are apparently on close-out at Circuit City for $769 with lens (28-135IS), and you can get another 10% off if you are a AAA member..

Seen in a fortune cookie:Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed..

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Nickleback wrote:.

Alztybrn wrote:.

I am primarily going to be shooting sporting events. Someindoors...others fairly low light..

I have been deciding between the D40/x.

What sports? That would decide what lens(es) to start with..

The D40 and D40x aren't great for this application. Indoor sportsare low light. Fast prime lenses are what you want. The D40 andD40x will not AF most of the lenses available in this range. Not tomention slow continuous shooting..

Probably the best deal is a close-out Canon 30D. You can find thembody-only for $800 or less. If you can still find one, they areapparently on close-out at Circuit City for $769 with lens(28-135IS), and you can get another 10% off if you are a AAA member..

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! 30D w/28-135IS for $769 is a great deal..

I shoot Nikon and love them, including the D40. But, nickleback's observation about fast primes is right on the money. Another lens that would be useful for indoor sports is a 70 or 80-200 f/2.8. Nikon's 80-200 f/2.8 ($800) will not autofocus on a D40 or D40x. Their 70-200 f/2.8 VR will, but it's $1700..

You should get a D80, a used D70, or a Canon...

Comment #2

Thanks for the tip on the 30D. I have not explored to much of Canon's line. I will definitely need a 80-200 f/2.8 type lens. Any suggestions?.

I have a friend that has both a D40 as well as a D40x...he shoots a lot of sports with them and really likes them. Is there anywhere I can find a comparison of these...the D80 is probably out of my price range right now..

I am also curious...is the 30D similar in size to the D40? I like the small size of the Nikon as well...

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Alztybrn wrote:.

Thanks for the tip on the 30D. I have not explored to much of Canon'sline. I will definitely need a 80-200 f/2.8 type lens. Anysuggestions?.

I have a friend that has both a D40 as well as a D40x...he shoots alot of sports with them and really likes them. Is there anywhere Ican find a comparison of these...the D80 is probably out of my pricerange right now..

I am also curious...is the 30D similar in size to the D40? I like thesmall size of the Nikon as well..

The 30D is a bit larger than the nikon D40. The problem with some of the smaller cameras is that some don't have great continuous autofocus and they have a slow frames per second. The frames per second makes a difference if the sports you will be shooting are fast paced. If you have a point and shoot camera right now, you will think the D40/x is quite fast and responsive, the Canon 20D/30D models are a step up but are larger. Personally, I find the larger size makes them easier to handle but that is just me. Even the Nikon D80 is a fair bit larger than a D40..

As for the lenses, you didn't mention if the sports were indoor. If they are you may want a lense with a maximum aperature of 2.8 or larger. Zoom lenses are pretty much maxed at 2.8 but primes can get even faster. What kind of sport will you be taking pictures of? Are they outdoor daytime kind of sports?..

Comment #4

I will be shooting both indoors and out...daytime as well as night time. I do not object to the camera being a little larger...it may actually make it easier to handle...I will be toting it around quite a bit, so do not want it to be huge...

Comment #5

You could look here..........http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/Reviews by people who have actually used the lenses...

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Alztybrn wrote:.

Thanks for the tip on the 30D. I have not explored to much of Canon'sline. I will definitely need a 80-200 f/2.8 type lens. Anysuggestions?.

What sports? You may or may not need an 80-200/2.8. You might need something faster, wider, etc..

But if you really need 70-200/2.8, Canon has two (IS and not), and there are Sigma, Tamron and soon Tokina lenses in this range..

There is also the Sigma 50-150/2.8 (which is also available for Nikon, and AFs with the D40 and D40x)..

I am also curious...is the 30D similar in size to the D40?.

Bigger. Around the size of a D80..

Seen in a fortune cookie:Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed..

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Alztybrn wrote:.

I will be shooting both indoors and out...daytime as well as nighttime. I do not object to the camera being a little larger...it mayactually make it easier to handle...I will be toting it around quitea bit, so do not want it to be huge..

Well, with daytime photos you may be able to get away with an f/4 lense however, night time/low light photos will require something faster. Faster lenses are great but some people aren't so keen on the extra weight that goes with fast lenses. For example a Canon 70-200 f/4 weighs in around 705 grams, the 70-200 2.8 comes in around 1,400 grams - quite a difference, especially if you are carrying it around..

Are you going to be close to the action or will it be a fair distance away? For example, if you photographed hockey, the movement of the players would necessitate a zoom. A sport like boxing may not require a zoom..

If you are going to be carrying it around a fair bit, you may even want to consider a third party camera strap...

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Nickleback wrote:.

Alztybrn wrote:.

What sports? You may or may not need an 80-200/2.8. You might needsomething faster, wider, etc..

Football, volleyball, basketball, soccer, baseball, softball. But I will also be using it as I travel a bit. For example....going to Disneyworld this summer, so there will be a lot of landscape pics, as well as nighttime pics..

But if you really need 70-200/2.8, Canon has two (IS and not), andthere are Sigma, Tamron and soon Tokina lenses in this range..

There is also the Sigma 50-150/2.8 (which is also available forNikon, and AFs with the D40 and D40x)..

Thanks..

Also, thanks for the lens review site. That will be very helpful..

Seen in a fortune cookie:Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed..

Comment #9

Alztybrn wrote:.

Football, volleyball, basketball, soccer, baseball, softball. But Iwill also be using it as I travel a bit. For example....going toDisneyworld this summer, so there will be a lot of landscape pics, aswell as nighttime pics..

Depending on your access, ie how close you get to the court, the Canon 30D and zoom setup already mentioned will serve you well in volleyball and basketball. Not so great for the outdoor sports. A 50 1.8 would help you even more for the indoor sports..

Check out this link for more help:.

Http://www.sportsshooter.com.

'Nice pen, bet you write good stories with it.'..

Comment #10

My job allows me to be on the sideline at all the sporting events...so I have great access..

Why is the 30D not so great for outdoor shooting? That will be a significant portion of my shooting...

Comment #11

Alztybrn wrote:.

My job allows me to be on the sideline at all the sportingevents...so I have great access..

Why is the 30D not so great for outdoor shooting? That will be asignificant portion of my shooting..

I believe he was refering to the lense that was previously mentioned (28-135 if I recall correctly). The 28-135 is an okay lense, maybe even a good place to start your DSLR adventure. There are better lenses though..

The Canon 30D has no problems in daylight (unless you get the vampire version...but you have to stay away from garlic and churches too)...

Comment #12

If you are going to be carrying it around a fair bit, you may evenwant to consider a third party camera strap..

The camera straps you get with a body should be considered torture devices. Do get an aftermarket strap. I like the Lowepro Voyager C but there are others just as good or better..

Example:.

Http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...;at=Brand_Lowepro&basicSubmit=Submit+Query.

In your budget do consider you'll want things such as an extra battery, extra memory cards, a lens cleaning kit, a Giottos rocket blower (accept no substitute on this one), and a proper sized camera bag. A monopod might be a good idea to help stabilize your shots. The cost of the accessories is substantial when added up. Look for quality in the accessories, else you'll probably end up purchasing better ones soon. Beware of accessory kits offered as a package deal..

I do tend to agree with others that advise looking for a well cared for used setup or a previous model refurb with warranty...

Comment #13

Sorry to reply to myself. Sports photography is demanding. Low light sports photography is one of the most demanding things of equipment and the photographer. It's not easy or inexpensive to do if you have high expectations..

I might suggest mingling with good photographers at the same events you attend. Get their opinion on technique, equipment, and the difficulties faced. I am not trying to discourage you, but rather to set proper expectations for yourself and whatever equipment you purchase...

Comment #14

I'm sorry I wasn't clearer. The 30D will be fine..

But the 28-135 will be a little limiting. Not that you couldn't do it, it'd be about the same as a 45-216 on a FF camera, which would be actually quite useable for softball infield shots, if you can stand in the area of the coach's box. But for soccer and football you'll have to be following the action up and down the sidelines and make sure you fill the frame to get nice images..

'Nice pen, bet you write good stories with it.'..

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