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New Camera Shopping... DSLR or SuperZoom?
Hi all,.

I need a little advice here. I am looking for a new camera and have been considering a super zoom such as the H50 or the P80..etc. Most of my pictures would be for web or small prints.. possibly an 8x10 on occasion..

I've been reading through this forum for the last month or so and am now totally confused. Here are my primary needs for this camera..

1. Creative control.. Such as depth of field, or actually...lack there of. (which would require some degree of zoom..

2. Sports - I am director of a youth soccer organization and photo / video is a large part of our mission..

3. Family stuff..

The price of the newer super zooms are around $400. That is not all that far from say the nikon D40 starter kit.. But then i'd need to by a bigger lens which leads to a bigger investment etc.....

I fear that I am reading too much into some of the feedback in regards to the super zooms... Purple Fringing comes to mind.. What I don't know is if someone like me and how I would be using the camera would be impacted by PF?? Is PF noticeable on smaller prints and or web? Would a super zoom be a decent camera for capturing the sport of soccer and fast moving subjects?.

Ok.. back to the coffee pot to ponder this further..

Many thanks in advance!.

~ Dave..

Comments (8)

Fifa wrote:.

1. Creative control.. Such as depth of field, or actually...lackthere of. (which would require some degree of zoom..

2. Sports - I am director of a youth soccer organization and photo /video is a large part of our mission..

3. Family stuff..

1. DSLR offers much greater control even with the kit lens..

2. Outdoors you should be able to get a superzoom to work for sports but the autofocus speed of a DSLR will give you a much higher rate of "keepers", but alas, DSLRs don't do video- may be a dealbreaker for you..

3. Depends..

You can look at images taken with the models you are looking at. http://pixel-peeper.com/.

Or you can search on flickr to see if you can live with the PF (look at full size images)..

Comment #1

I need a little advice here. I am looking for a new camera and havebeen considering a super zoom such as the H50 or the P80..etc. Mostof my pictures would be for web or small prints.. possibly an 8x10 onoccasion..

Don't need a lot of resolution, then..

I've been reading through this forum for the last month or so and amnow totally confused. Here are my primary needs for this camera..

1. Creative control.. Such as depth of field, or actually...lackthere of. (which would require some degree of zoom..

Aperture control..

2. Sports - I am director of a youth soccer organization and photo /video is a large part of our mission..

Video excludes DSLRs, as the other responder noted. You might be best off using a camcorder likely to have more video-friendly features like being able to smoothly adjust zoom during recording, decent FPS, enough battery to permit continual use, better audio setup..

If these are evening games, you're going to have some issues. Games under goodly amounts of sunlight, much easier..

I fear that I am reading too much into some of the feedback inregards to the super zooms... Purple Fringing comes to mind.. What Idon't know is if someone like me and how I would be using the camerawould be impacted by PF?? Is PF noticeable on smaller prints and or.

Tends to be associated with borders between brightly lit backgrounds and shadowed subjects. Shoot a tree branch against bright white sky, for instance..

Web? Would a super zoom be a decent camera for capturing the sportof soccer and fast moving subjects?.

EVFs tend to have lag, which will hurt you. Powered zooms are also not really good for stills here too slow, compared to the ball...

Comment #2

Check out the Canon S5 IS. It is 12X optical zoom and has received very good reviews for the videos it takes..

I had an S2 IS and really liked it. I used it to take some sports stuff of the grandkids soccer etc. The S5 has 3 more mp and even more manual control than the S2, from what I've read. And, at $325 or so, you can get the S5 IS for less than one decent quality SLR lens costs.TLIII..

Comment #3

Fifa wrote:.

Hi all,.

I need a little advice here. I am looking for a new camera and havebeen considering a super zoom such as the H50 or the P80..etc. Mostof my pictures would be for web or small prints.. possibly an 8x10 onoccasion..

I've been reading through this forum for the last month or so and amnow totally confused. Here are my primary needs for this camera..

1. Creative control.. Such as depth of field, or actually...lackthere of. (which would require some degree of zoom..

2. Sports - I am director of a youth soccer organization and photo /video is a large part of our mission..

3. Family stuff..

The price of the newer super zooms are around $400. That is not allthat far from say the nikon D40 starter kit.. But then i'd need to bya bigger lens which leads to a bigger investment etc.....

I fear that I am reading too much into some of the feedback inregards to the super zooms... Purple Fringing comes to mind.. What Idon't know is if someone like me and how I would be using the camerawould be impacted by PF?? Is PF noticeable on smaller prints and orweb? Would a super zoom be a decent camera for capturing the sportof soccer and fast moving subjects?.

Ok.. back to the coffee pot to ponder this further..

Many thanks in advance!.

~ Dave.

Hard to give you a good answer. A DSLR is much better for fast-moving sports, gives you creative control, and allows you to manage DOF. The D40 is a fine camera, but the kit lens isn't long enough for soccer. Figure on adding the 55-200 VR, about $200. As others have noted, DSLR's don't shoot video..

A superzoom like the S5 gives you a long lens and decent video. There will be some purple fringing (CA), but you'd be really unlikely to notice it in real-world situations, especially with small prints or web-resolution images. The big drawback is that they're slow, making action shots difficult. They're also completely useless for indoor sports..

The best results would be from the D40 w/55-200 and a digital camcorder. That's about $900 combined. You have to decide based on your budget...

Comment #4

Hi all,.

I need to clarify something. I'm not looking for a camera that does video.. My wording was a bit misleading..

Thanks for your responses thus far..

~ Dave..

Comment #5

Keep in mind the larger sensor is going to give you much shallower DOF when shooting protraits, hard to get that with P&S cameras. video is going to be best with a camcorder. You can't have it all in one camera yet without making a big compromise. You need both a DSLR and a Camcorder if quality video is important..

If video is not number one than get a DSLR.Sincerely.

Ron J..

Comment #6

Good morning all..

As for Image Quality. Would the Nikon D40 provide an image quality better than, worse than or equal to a new super zoom. Obviously the D40 has less MP. Once again, my wording was misleading earlier - I will not be using this camera for video..

~ Dave..

Comment #7

Fifa wrote:.

As for Image Quality. Would the Nikon D40 provide an image qualitybetter than, worse than or equal to a new super zoom..

One thing though, and this is something you may really want to consider since sports shooting is one of your needs. The D40 only has three autofocus points. Not sure how beefy it's continuous AF system is either. Sports shooting will be much improved by having a system with a good continuous AF system and more than three AF points. Of course, that also increases the price..

The other restriction (as some see it) that the D40 imposes is that you can only use newer AFS lenses if you want auto focus. While not necessarily a bad thing, the really good AFS lenses are realy expensive. There is some good screw driven glass out there that you wouldn't be able to take full advantage of..

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