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Monitor calibration
I recently made some 8x10 prints to hang in my office. When they arrived from Shutterfly I noticed that they were a lot brighter/more vibrant than I thought they were going to be..

So, it seems like my monitor is not displaying colors properly. I mentioned this to my wife (with a much sharper eye than me) and she said my monitor always seemed a bit muted..

How on earth can I get my monitor to display the correct colors if I don't even know what they look like? I need to be able to expect what sort of results I will get when making prints..

My CRT shows up as a Dell M991 in the Device Manager, if that makes any difference. Video card is a Radeon X1300/X1550..

Help a clueless newbie for your daily fix of good karma! Thank you ..

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The proper answer to this is to buy (and use) a calibrator. If you're using an LCD display, a calibrator is a "must". If you're using a laptop, a *good* calibrator is a must..

The big names in calibrators are Spyder and Eye One Display...

Comment #1

Ouch. I don't have that much to spend. I guess I'll try to wing it for now by comparing my prints to the monitor and trying to adjust it =\..

Comment #2

The cheap calibration software from colorvision is $79. I have the prior version from 3-4 yrs ago and it works fine. the calibration portion of the software is really the same, the extra cost comes from extras that come with the monitor calibrator..

The more expensive calibrators have more bells and whistles but do not do any better job. they include such things as a printer profiler with the monitor calibrator. and maybe a room light sensor that adjusts the calibration depending on room light. I simpy run my room lights at the same level as when I calibrated, and all is fine...

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I dont know your particular monitor but I would expect that most recently manufactured (last 5 years or so) would have a menu button on the front or side to enable you to change, brightness contrast verticle and horozontal size and position and also your Reds, Greens and Blues..

Firstly just bump up your brightness and contrast, my monitor runs at 100% brightness and about 92% contrast..

If you have adobe photoshop 5 or above it uses a Windows Gamma of 2.2 so the colours should be correct without adjustment.Macintosh Gamma is 1.8In ADobe imageready you can adjust your Monitors Gamma Values if need be ..

If you can adjust your colours use your new photo as a guide, hold it in front and adjust the monitor to be the same..

If it's an unadjustable monitor then go to a swap meet, get a really good 19inch flat screen CRT's for about $75-$85 and all are fully adjustable..

Bye the way CRT monitors are far better for colour truth than LCD (or Laptop) where colour often varies with viewing angle...

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Solo1 wrote:.

I dont know your particular monitor but I would expect that mostrecently manufactured (last 5 years or so) would have a menu buttonon the front or side to enable you to change, brightness contrastverticle and horozontal size and position and also your Reds, Greensand Blues.Firstly just bump up your brightness and contrast, my monitor runs at100% brightness and about 92% contrast..

Only true for CRT!! If you have any flavour of LCD, it's a different business. Most decent LCD screens I've seen run about less than 20% of brightness. Mine runs about 11%. 100% would only kill my eyes... and illuminate the house..

Some cheap advice: See you can find an image of a color chart. Go and print it at a shop, asking for no corrections. Check there if the printed image fits THEIR monitor image. If so, take the print home, and adjust your monitor. Do not play with RGB values unless really needed..

If you have adobe photoshop 5 or above it uses a Windows Gamma of 2.2so the colours should be correct without adjustment.Macintosh Gammais 1.8In ADobe imageready you can adjust your Monitors Gamma Values if needbe .If you can adjust your colours use your new photo as a guide, hold itin front and adjust the monitor to be the same.If it's an unadjustable monitor then go to a swap meet, get a reallygood 19inch flat screen CRT's for about $75-$85 and all are fullyadjustable.Bye the way CRT monitors are far better for colour truth than LCD (orLaptop) where colour often varies with viewing angle...

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Czeglin wrote:.

Ouch. I don't have that much to spend. I guess I'll try to wing itfor now by comparing my prints to the monitor and trying to adjust it=.

I got a Spyder3 Pro at the end of last year, and I waited until yesterday to use it (i.e., because I thought my monitor was in good shape). YIKES! How awfully mistakened I was!.

First, there had been a horrible blue color cast across the screen. The colors were previously desaturated. And on top of that, the color cast tremendously reduced the overall contrast of colors on the screen..

I will admit that it took a little work for me to figure out what I was actually doing during the (Spyder3) calibration process. But the Spyder 3 was the best $160-$200 I've ever spent as far as equipment maintenance is concerned. The color cast is gone, colors are more saturated, colors are more accurate, and the contrast has improved..

Think about it this way, if you save $25 per week over the next 8 weeks (i.e., 25 x 8 = $200), then you should be able to buy something that does a pretty good job..

Brandon..

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GaryDeM wrote:.

The cheap calibration software from colorvision is $79. I have theprior version from 3-4 yrs ago and it works fine. the calibrationportion of the software is really the same, the extra cost comes fromextras that come with the monitor calibrator..

The more expensive calibrators have more bells and whistles but donot do any better job..

Better calibration/profiling packages tend to ahve better software that allows you to create better profiles, and possibly allow you to edit them. Cheaper packages are still way better than none, and better than just using a software only solution like Adobe Gamma..

They include such things as a printer profilerwith the monitor calibrator. and maybe a room light sensor thatadjusts the calibration depending on room light. I simpy run my roomlights at the same level as when I calibrated, and all is fine..

Cheers from John from Adelaide, South AustraliaJohn Harvey Photography http://johnharvey.com.auCanon 40D, Canon 20D & Fuji F10..

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Solo1 wrote:.

I dont know your particular monitor but I would expect that mostrecently manufactured (last 5 years or so) would have a menu buttonon the front or side to enable you to change, brightness contrastverticle and horozontal size and position and also your Reds, Greensand Blues.Firstly just bump up your brightness and contrast, my monitor runs at100% brightness and about 92% contrast..

Maybe for some CRTs, but way too bright for LCDs. USed as the basis for prints, or for viewing of your images by others on thehttp://www, prints and viewing by others would therefore be much darker..

If you have adobe photoshop 5 or above it uses a Windows Gamma of 2.2so the colours should be correct without adjustment..

Gamma is the brightness curve and doesn't mean colours will be correct just based on gamma alone..

Macintosh Gammais 1.8.

Gamma 1.8 for Macs is no longer true. It was relevant for old Apple printers, but no longer relevant..

In ADobe imageready you can adjust your Monitors Gamma Values if needbe .If you can adjust your colours use your new photo as a guide, hold itin front and adjust the monitor to be the same.If it's an unadjustable monitor then go to a swap meet, get a reallygood 19inch flat screen CRT's for about $75-$85 and all are fullyadjustable..

Maybe, maybe not. Not all CRT monitors are created equal. Adjustable doesn't necessarily make it a good monitor..

Bye the way CRT monitors are far better for colour truth than LCD (orLaptop) where colour often varies with viewing angle..

Yes, for many LCDs, but not all..

Cheers from John from Adelaide, South AustraliaJohn Harvey Photography http://johnharvey.com.auCanon 40D, Canon 20D & Fuji F10..

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