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Macro and Night Photography Camera. (Newbie)
I am very new at photography.I need help in choosing between 2 DSLR cameras.I am very interested with MACRO and NIGHT/LOW LIGHT Photography.I can't afford to buy extra lens. I will use the bundled lens for a long time.http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTMHopefully a camera that I can use for a long time..

What camera is for me? Nikon d40 or Canon EOS 350d?.

And can you tell me the advantage and disadvantage of each when it comes to Macro and Night/Low light photography? (Kit Lens only).

Thank You in Advance...

Comments (13)

Sorry can't find the edit button..

Anyway, I would also like to add the I am also very interested with Long Time Exposure shots...

Comment #1

Have a look at the Pentax K100D and get a couple of lenses (one for macro) should be cheaper and you will get better results...

Comment #2

Another option is either camera, the 50mm 1.8 lens (great lens, and cheap), and an extension tube. Some examples of the macro shots can be seen here http://forums.dpreview.com/...age=23842130&q=50mm+extension+tube&qf=m..

Comment #3

Those macro pictures are amazing. Do you really need to have those accessories to have that kind of macro? I'd really love to have just 1 all around lens..

I see a lot people recommending the pentax. Problem with pentax for me is that is very rare here in the Philippines and I might have problems if someday it will have some issues. And for this reason alone, I'd really like to stick with d40 or EOS 350d...

Comment #4

You can't really get a lens that does everything. For macro, a dedicated, fixed focal length lens is best. For general purpose and night shots you would probably want a mid range zoom..

You could get a general purpose zoom and use extension tubes with it for macro shots. Extension tubes are hollow tubes that are mounted between the lens and the camera and allow closer focusing. The only ones worth buying have electrical contacts carry information from the camera to the lens so that functions such as auto focus and aperture stopping are retained..

Brian A...

Comment #5

Hugowolf wrote:.

You can't really get a lens that does everything. For macro, adedicated, fixed focal length lens is best. For general purpose andnight shots you would probably want a mid range zoom..

You could get a general purpose zoom and use extension tubes with itfor macro shots. Extension tubes are hollow tubes that are mountedbetween the lens and the camera and allow closer focusing. The onlyones worth buying have electrical contacts carry information from thecamera to the lens so that functions such as auto focus and aperturestopping are retained..

Brian A..

Is the bundled lens considered a gen purpose zoom? (sorry, I'm really new )If so, can you give me a link or a model name for the extension tubes?.

And uhm, you can still do macro shots with the bundled lens right? It just wont be as good as an extension tubes, correct?.

In terms of IQ, how much is the difference between a fixed focal, extension tubes and the bundled macro?Will it matter for a beginner like me?.

Thanks for bearing with me guys. Believe me, I tried doing some research first but came up with nothing T_t...

Comment #6

The 18-55mm kit lens for the nikon has a magnification of 1:3.2. True macro is considered 1:1, so the kit lens is not considered a true macro. Might it suit your purposes? It might. The extension tubes can be found at most photo shops. Here is a link to them (for nikon) at b&h http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...p;O=product.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t.

This article might help as well. http://www.macrophotography.org/....php?name=News&file=article&sid=19.

Mike..

Comment #7

Will I be able to achieve 1:1 or better magnification on an extension tube? Because If not, I think I'll just save the money to buy a true macro lens...

Comment #8

Yellising wrote:.

Will I be able to achieve 1:1 or better magnification on an extensiontube? Because If not, I think I'll just save the money to buy a truemacro lens..

Nevermind, I got my answer from the link about macrophotography, bookmarking it now ^_^..

BTW another newbie question and a very important 1 for me. When doing macro shots, do you need to be extremely close to the subject like your lens is just a couple or a centimeter away from your subject? or do we have a lens that can zoom in from a couple of feet and still do very good macro? it is very important I think for insect macro. Or are the insect macro I see everytime are all taken a few centimeters away?.

Why is the edit button gone again? I just used it for my last post and now it's not there anymore!?..

Comment #9

Yellising wrote:.

Will I be able to achieve 1:1 or better magnification on an extensiontube?.

That would depend on how much extension and on what lens, but generally yes. You need around about the same amount of extension as the focal length of lens to achieve 1:1..

Because If not, I think I'll just save the money to buy a truemacro lens..

Even with a dedicated macro lens, the tubes can be used for getting magnifications greater than 1:1..

It is much nicer to work with a dedicated lens than with tubes or other ancillary equipment to get high magnifications. With tubes mounted your lens will no longer focus at normal distances, so you can't switch from normal shooting to macro without mounting or dismounting the tubes..

There are a great variety of excellent macro lenses at different focal lengths, price ranges and by different manufactures. Optically they all seem to be very good, although the build quality and usability varies. In general the longer the focal length, the more working distance you get between the lens and the subject matter, and in most cases the longer the working distance the better..

Brian A...

Comment #10

Yellising wrote:.

BTW another newbie question and a very important 1 for me. When doingmacro shots, do you need to be extremely close to the subject likeyour lens is just a couple or a centimeter away from your subject?or do we have a lens that can zoom in from a couple of feet and stilldo very good macro? it is very important I think for insect macro. Orare the insect macro I see everytime are all taken a few centimetersaway?.

Here is a list of the minimum working distances of several Canon EOS mount lenses. The minimum working distance is the distance from the front of the lens to the subject at 1:1. The Tamron and Sigma lenses should have the same working distances in other mounts (Nikon, Qlympus, Pentax, Etc.).

Working distances: (all Canon, except where noted)60 mm......9 cm (EF-S)90 mm&..9.7 cm (Tamron)100 mm....14.9 cm105 mm&.12.2 cm (Sigma)150 mm....20 cm (Sigma)180 mm....25 cm.

Why is the edit button gone again? I just used it for my last postand now it's not there anymore!?.

It only appears for a few minutes, after that you are stuck with what you wrote..

Brian A...

Comment #11

Thanks a lot brian. ^_^. and to everyone who replied and wasted their time on me heheh..

And thank you very much for that list. that made it a lot easier for me ^_^..

I'm really interested with that 150mm SIGMA, Thats what I'm currently considering once I get the cash. I just hope that it works with d40..

Once quick question, on 1 of your reply you mentioned about switching to regular shooting mode..

Does this mean that the Sigma 150mm is also capable of shooting regular pictures aside from macro shots? Or are Macro camera's really just for macro shots?.

If it can, I bet the quality of the macro lens' regular shot is inferior even to even the bundled lens..

Thanks for helping me again. I am also doing my part by doing some research and a lot of reading but it is really different when someone explains it to you in layman's terms !..

Comment #12

Yellising wrote:.

I'm really interested with that 150mm SIGMA, Thats what I'm currentlyconsidering once I get the cash. I just hope that it works with d40..

It will work fine with the D40..

Once quick question, on 1 of your reply you mentioned about switchingto regular shooting mode..

With most macro lenses there is no "switching", they focus from 1:1 to infinity. Some, like the Canon 100 mm f/2.8, have an auto focus limiting switch that allows you to preclude the very closest distances to speed up auto focus at normal distances. (Most macro work is done with manual focus anyway)..

Does this mean that the Sigma 150mm is also capable of shootingregular pictures aside from macro shots? Or are Macro camera's reallyjust for macro shots?.

No, it works fine at regular distances. Of course, 150 mm (225 mm equiv. on D40, isn't in the normal focal range, it is a medium telephoto..

Canon has a specialist macro lens, the MP-E 65 mm, that shoots at up to 5:1 (5x lifesize), and it only does macro. I don't know of any other lens like this though..

If it can, I bet the quality of the macro lens' regular shot isinferior even to even the bundled lens..

Oh no, macro lenses, while generally optimized for close focus, will outperform most zoom lenses at all distances. Fixed focal length lenses (so called primes) will generally outperform zooms of the equivalent range..

Brian A...

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