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Hello.

I need a camera with:.

Lowest noise possible (sharpest images)best macro possiblelowest barrel distortion possible.

Under 500 USD.

Any ideas?..

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In your shoes I'd be looking for a good P&S, an AC adapter or spare battery and a close up lens..

You don't need anything special for macro work but it helps if the camera will take a screw on supplementary lens great if you do a lot of it) and that's why I suggested an AC adapter as the screen will be in use a lot and ordinary batteries run down quickly..

If you don't want to mess around with supplementary lenses then the Panasonic LX2 will focus up very closely..

Here's a sample of what can be done with a supplementary lens; I've a collection of old lenses I've rescued from here and there that I use for close-ups. Most will work held in front of the camera's lens but it's easier if they can be screwed on. The picture is part of an xD media card. That's about 1" by " in size..

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And here it is without so much zoom:.

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Both pictures are the full frame but obviously reduced for this website..

Hope this is some help..

Regards, David..

Comment #1

Thanks for this!.

These shots are with a Panasonic LX2 ? .

There is significant barrel distortion, esp. in the second..

Comment #2

W333 wrote:.

Thanks for this!.

These shots are with a Panasonic LX2 ? .

There is significant barrel distortion, esp. in the second.

No; they are with an old P&S with a lens held in front of it to show what can be done. I'm also pretty good at zapping distortion but the pictures were taken from a series that mostly showed the camera and lens set-up, and a couple of microscopes with the camera stuck in front of the eyepiece. In other words, kitchen table stuff..

I ought to put the corrected picture into the series; I'll find the time one day..

Regards, David..

Comment #3

W333 wrote:.

Hello.

I need a camera with:.

Lowest noise possible (sharpest images)best macro possiblelowest barrel distortion possible.

Under 500 USD.

Any ideas?.

You dont need as much as $500 to shoot awesome macros, thats for sure.You'll need to gain some skill and practice though, but it comes with time..

Take a look at my page below (in swedish but just click the menus at top for different cathegories).All macros are taken with a cheap Canon S3 and a closeup-lens with strength +8..

I would probably recommend a closeup-lens with +4, it would be more usable since you can get further away, but it all depends on your needs..

Anyway, any decent longzoomer that has a filter thread to attach a closeup-lens (probably through a special adapter you need to buy too) will do fine..

Achromatic closeup-lens is very recommended for use with longzoomers, a little more expensive but they are very cheap anyway for what you get.http://sebastianfoto.se/..

Comment #4

I have some questions:.

1).

I cant understand what macro is (I just know it's when you shoot small objects from close with much detail).

What is the difference of zoom, focus and macro?.

2)macro is calculated in cameras' specs as the minimum distance from the object.

But do we also need to know the maximum width the object can have?.

I mean a camera with 5cm macro, can take photo of an object in 5cm distance, but how big the ojbect can be?.

For example, if I want to take macros of objects 10x10 inches, which camera do I need?.

3).

Does shooting in macro mode produces any distortion in the images? is barrel distortion increasing or decreasing? any other artifacts and problems with macro shooting?..

Comment #5

W333 wrote:.

I have some questions:.

1)I cant understand what macro is (I just know it's when you shoot smallobjects from close with much detail).

What is the difference of zoom, focus and macro?.

2)macro is calculated in cameras' specs as the minimum distance fromthe object.

But do we also need to know the maximum width the object can have?.

I mean a camera with 5cm macro, can take photo of an object in 5cmdistance, but how big the ojbect can be?.

For example, if I want to take macros of objects 10x10 inches, whichcamera do I need?.

3)does shooting in macro mode produces any distortion in the images? isbarrel distortion increasing or decreasing? any other artifacts andproblems with macro shooting?.

1. With macro people usually mean closeup-shots..

There is a definition of the word macro but I dont think that will do you any good. Just think of macro as closeup-shots. BUT, you should know that with some lenses you can take real closeup-pictures from like 10-20 inches away, or even more, while other cameras produce the same magnifications from 1 inch. So macro doesn't really have to do with distance from the subject..

Focus is, well, it's focus. What is there to say .

Its the point (my english limits me here, it's not a point really) where you have absolut sharpness. Whats closer and further away from the focusdistance will get softer, how much depends on depth of field which in turn depends on distance and aperture..

Zoom is how much you can change the focallength. If you have loads of zoom you get much flexibility taking your shots..

These are pretty basic things, maybe you should read up somewhere on the web....google for it and you might find some nice tutorial for how all of this work..

2. As I said above, distance doesn't really matter. If you have a DSLR you can easily calculate how much will fit in a closest possible picture, but for compacts it always just says minimum distance and that doesn't give you any hint. So for a compact you need to find a detailed review that tests it and reports what width it captures when as close as possible.10x10 inches isn't really macro, any camera can fit that..

3. Wideangle macro usually distorts a lot, and gets blurry corners....really bad..

That is, cameras that say they have 1cm or even 0cm macros, dont perform well there. Its better if you can get closeup from a distance, with more tele (focal length), and that is why some people buy a closeup-lens for their P&S-camera..

Http://sebastianfoto.se/..

Comment #6

May I add a little to the previous post?.

It's important to check that so-called macro is available at all zoom settings. I've known cameras that only have macro available at the wide angle setting and, as he says, it isn't so good. Also macro means shooting with the LCD screen on and that runs down the battery, so an AC adapter is a good investment..

Some time ago, we had some people staying for the weekend and realised that we had about 6 or 7 digital cameras with us. So we took a series of test shots; the winner was a cheap P&S (Fuji A303 from memory). It was best simply because it's AF system coped well. The others were often just that little bit out of focus..

BTW, macro means the image on the CCD is the same size as the subject. That's 1:1 and you get it at 2f. As most CCD's are about the size of your finger nail, you can see why the marketing dept are trying to make us think that macro mean "close-up" but it doesn't..

BTW 2, if you are serious about macro then allow a lot for specialised flash equipment. And a tripod and cable release (very expensive)..

If you're not that serious then most any old P&S or the next step up will do it. And if you're very serious then you ought to be looking at a dSLR that takes interchangeable lenses and that has a proper macro lens available and ring flashes etc. Olympus do a nice macro lens for about 350 ....

Lastly, you asked about the Panasonic LX2, here's a sample of something small shot the way most people will do it (wideangle, handheld, AF and "P" mode). The SD cards was something small and recognisable and the little label with it was a well known stores fine-print..

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Hope this helps..

Regards, David..

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