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Looking to buy a good SLR..please help!
I have been reading up and looking at different cameras and trying to compare, but am finding it all a brain overload trying to choose which is the better camera to buy.

I have looked at the Cannon 400, Nikon d40, d80, Pentax k10 and the Sony a100.

At first l had my thoughts set on the Nickon d80 but then was told the Sony was a very good camera to get and had a few things going for it..

Basicaly what has started me on the search for a good SLR, is we are into sports, as in AFL football and GP motobike racing. A friend took a top shot of me with a Cannon 20 riding through a bend which looked superb, so as lm keen to get similar close up shots of moving bikes and distant shots as well, while doing track days..

Can someone please help me to decide on the best camera that will give me good sharp shots of fast moving objects..

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Ausgirl wrote:.

I have been reading up and looking at different cameras and trying tocompare, but am finding it all a brain overload trying to choosewhich is the better camera to buy.

Really, it's personal preference. There is no such thing as a bad DSLR..

I have looked at the Cannon 400, Nikon d40, d80, Pentax k10 and theSony a100.

At first l had my thoughts set on the Nickon d80 but then was toldthe Sony was a very good camera to get and had a few things going forit..

Like I said it'll come down to your own personal preference. Go to a camera store and handle each camera and play with them for a while. The one that you enjoyed using the most is the one you should buy..

Basicaly what has started me on the search for a good SLR, is we areinto sports, as in AFL football and GP motobike racing. A friend tooka top shot of me with a Cannon 20 riding through a bend which lookedsuperb, so as lm keen to get similar close up shots of moving bikesand distant shots as well, while doing track days..

Can someone please help me to decide on the best camera that willgive me good sharp shots of fast moving objects.

So you're question then is really about lenses. That will be limiting factor to your action shots. It sounds like you will need a fast telephoto lens for what you want. Depending on how far you are from the action and how good/bad the lighting is, you can get 70-200 2.8 (or f/4 if you're on a tight budget, but faster is better) or 300 2.8. Be warned though, fast telephoto lenses are not cheap!.

'I reject your reality and substitute my own' -Adam Savage..

Comment #1

Sony is really expensive when you start buying their lenses..

Canon and Nikon are the industry leaders, have the best lens selections, and are the ones most used by Pros. I'm a canon shooter myself, but I don't hesitate to recommend Nikon as I feel both companies are virtually on par with each other, with one sometimes leapfrogging ahead of the other..

But the main issue isn't the camera you buy now, it's the lens system. Sure you could save money buying a Pentax or Sony body for what they offer now... but who's to say where they will be in 3-5 years when you're ready to upgrade your camera. But by that time you may realize that as a system both leave something to be desired...

Comment #2

Thanks for the response guys.

Im interested to see what others think of the Sony a100 compared to Cannon, or even the Pentax.

I understand l will need to get a good lens if l want to get some action shots, but there are so many cameras out there, l just want to make sure lm getting something good.

Also is it worth sticking to something like a Cannon 20?, and if so, what would l expect to pay for one second hand..

I dont mind spending the money, but need to get ideas of whats better than the other..

Comment #3

Ausgirl wrote:.

Thanks for the response guys.

Im interested to see what others think of the Sony a100 compared toCannon, or even the Pentax.

I've shot with Pentax gear for 25 years. Pentax is probably going to be the best value for your money. The plus side is you get a camera that can use any lens made for the Pentax K mount body on the camera, you can use the older screw mount lenses with the appropriate adapter and with in body image stabilization, even a 40 year screw mount lense becomes image stabilized..

As far as features and image quality goes, any current DSLR body is going to perform basically the same. The real key is the system in which you buy into with a DSLR, and your photographic needs really determines that choice. With Pentax, you are buying into a smaller system with less option in new lenses and flash, but with a wealth of older, used gear floating around on the market. Much of that gear is not real good but there is also a lot of very good used gear out there as well. The problem is it is rather short supply now. Also, Pentax mount lense are often difficult to find in stores.



The Canon system has a huge amount of high quality new lenses and they really seem to be the brand to go with wildlife or sports is your thing....they have excellent long telephotos but you will pay for these as they are not cheap..

Nikon has an outstanding flash system and their cameras are very well done from an ergonomic standpoint according to most who have handled them..

Pentax's strength is in it's limited edition prime lenses....small, very well built and very sharp with outstanding image quality..

Sony is based on the old Minolta system and they used to make some excellent high quality, sharp and fast zooms, though it has been many years since I've read much on the Minolta system..

Pentax and Sony both have in body image stabilization while Canon and Nikon require the purcahse of special lenses..

The bottom line is really which camera feels the best for you, is comfortable for you to handle and use. If you do not like the feel of your camera, you will not use it as much. Personally, with my investment over 25 years in Pentax, it was a no-brainer for me to choose that system. However if I were starting out fresh today, I'd probably lean towards Canon as I'm primarily a wildlife and nature photographer and Canon long telephotos make me envious! But, over time i've assembled a decent Pentax system that serves my needs..

JohnPentax *ist-D, K100D, Fuji F20/31fd, Oly Stylushttp://www.pbase.com/jglover..

Comment #4

Thanks John, I felt very comfortable holding the Nickon dx40 and thats what l had my heart set on, but wasnt 100% convinced with the quality compared to the sharpness of the Pentax k10....maybe the D80 may be the better option, but lm not sure.

I was also really impressed with the IS in the Sony and the guy in the camera shop couldnt reccommend the Sony enough and said he thought it was the best out of them all..

I know everyone has different views on each camera, but l really do want something that gives a nice sharp, clear shot of moving objects. I know l will need a good lens for that, but l need to be sure of what camera to get.

With the Cannons, would you reccommend getting a Cannon 20? or am l better off getting something else..

It really is hard to choose..lol..

Comment #5

IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

Sony is really expensive when you start buying their lenses..

Canon and Nikon are the industry leaders, have the best lensselections, and are the ones most used by Pros. I'm a canon shootermyself, but I don't hesitate to recommend Nikon as I feel bothcompanies are virtually on par with each other, with one sometimesleapfrogging ahead of the other..

But the main issue isn't the camera you buy now, it's the lenssystem. Sure you could save money buying a Pentax or Sony body forwhat they offer now... but who's to say where they will be in 3-5years when you're ready to upgrade your camera. But by that time youmay realize that as a system both leave something to be desired..

I think Canon will be laying off people long before Pentax quits.....Nikon will be taking a LOT of that pro market share from Canon over the next year or so. The reasons they are the ones used by pros is they are the ones that make pro cameras...funny that..

To keep telling people to buy Canon or Nikon because YOU think a company (that has been around at much the same size for decades) MAY go bust (and if Pentax did you can still use the latest Samsung) does not make sense..

Will you still be using your current camera in 5 years time?.

I would not be suprised if in 5 years people will be having a similar discussion in the Nokia forum about using their zzzz mkII to shoot a wedding, or if Canon will catch up to Samsung in market share.....but they will not catch Sony....dslrs may well be paperweights by then..

Now ..back on topic.....In this case I WOULD recommend the Canon 20d/30d/40d to the OP because of WHAT they want to shoot now....not because of what may happen in 5 years...

The Sony and Pentax would not be as good at what she wants.....I do not like the Sony A100 but thats me ....the newer Sonys coming out...thats a different story. The Pentax K10d is the best camera (to me) but just not for the OPs needs..

Neil..

Comment #6

Hi,.

I really can't comment on the quality or ease of use of the Canon bodies as I've not used a Canon body since my AE-1 was stolen many years ago. However, with the Pentax, the kit lens that ships with the cameras is described as the best of any kit lens going. Pentax's 18-55mm lens is a nice lens and really sharp so some of what you may be seeing is the difference betwen the Nikon and Pentax kit lenses. The D80 would be an excellent choice as well, it is on par with the K10D...the D40 compares more favorably against the Pentax K100D..

The Pentax and Sony will have be very similiar in terms of IS sytems, bith in body systems.....however, if the Nikon feels the best to you, that is what I would go with. The feel of the camera and the intuitive use of the controls will become second nature if you like the way the camera when you use it. And if you like the feel and learn the camera, you will use it more and thus get better much more quickly! .

Bottom line is all the bodies will give you exclellent image quality, pick the ones the feels good and that *you* are happy with. As much as i'd like to see you go with Pentax, it sounds as if the Nikon is a better choice for you..

Ausgirl wrote:.

Thanks John, I felt very comfortable holding the Nickon dx40 andthats what l had my heart set on, but wasnt 100% convinced with thequality compared to the sharpness of the Pentax k10....maybe the D80may be the better option, but lm not sure.

I was also really impressed with the IS in the Sony and the guy inthe camera shop couldnt reccommend the Sony enough and said hethought it was the best out of them all..

I know everyone has different views on each camera, but l really dowant something that gives a nice sharp, clear shot of moving objects.I know l will need a good lens for that, but l need to be sure ofwhat camera to get.

With the Cannons, would you reccommend getting a Cannon 20? or am lbetter off getting something else..

It really is hard to choose..lol.

JohnPentax *ist-D, K100D, Fuji F20/31fd, Oly Stylushttp://www.pbase.com/jglover..

Comment #7

Consider a tripod rather than an image stabilized body or lens. Then you can buy the Nikon you really want without worrying about hand shake..

Jerryhttp://jchoate.zenfolio.com/..

Comment #8

Neil to answer your question, yes for the money lm laying out, l plan to have this camera for many years which is why l want to choose the right one.

Most of my shooting will be of fast moving objects as l ride most weekends and planning on heading to Phillip Island for the GP, so l want to get some good shots..

Also my son plays football and as he is good with the ball l want to get some shots of him on the run.

I was keen to get a camera with IS built in but from what l have read, l can get a lens with a stabilizer in it.

I have seen the quality of what the Cannon 20 can produce so if l was to go with the Cannon, which is better out of the 20d, 30d, and 40d.

Which would be a good lens to match the Cannon for fast action shots whether they are close or at a distance?.

As for the Nikons, with the d80 do they have a IS built in? and again what lens would suit.

Are these 2 cameras much of a muchness or would you say one is sharper than the other?.

I am taking everything that has been said on board and so glad l found this forum other wise l would still be scratching my head..lol..

Comment #9

Ausgirl, I have been reading this stuff. The d40x photo quality is just as good as the d80. It is also easy for beginners to learn, so it might be the best choice. If you don't need exposure compensation or advanced AF etc then go the d40x...

Comment #10

Ausgirl wrote:.

Neil to answer your question, yes for the money lm laying out, l planto have this camera for many years which is why l want to choose theright one.

Most of my shooting will be of fast moving objects as l ride mostweekends and planning on heading to Phillip Island for the GP, so lwant to get some good shots..

Also my son plays football and as he is good with the ball l want toget some shots of him on the run.

I was keen to get a camera with IS built in but from what l haveread, l can get a lens with a stabilizer in it.

I have seen the quality of what the Cannon 20 can produce so if l wasto go with the Cannon, which is better out of the 20d, 30d, and 40d.

Which would be a good lens to match the Cannon for fast action shotswhether they are close or at a distance?.

As for the Nikons, with the d80 do they have a IS built in? and againwhat lens would suit.

Are these 2 cameras much of a muchness or would you say one issharper than the other?.

I am taking everything that has been said on board and so glad lfound this forum other wise l would still be scratching my head..lol.

Hi.

You may be planning on keeping it for many years.......you will get the bug like most of us and want to upgrade at some time..

Not a Canon user but if you could afford it I would probably go with the 40d or 30d...not sure...should get some good deals on the 30d..

For what you want to do I think you just about have to go with Canon...some of the Nikons would probably be ok. I have seen some great shots of motor cyclists from Pentax but would really want 5 frames per second, so for that alone would not use Pentax for for motorcycling unless it was occassional use and not one of the main reasons to buy a camera..

Have a look in the Canon camera forums and the lens one to get ideas on lenses..

Really at the moment if you want stabilisation you will have to get it in lens to get 5 frames per second and thats Nikon or Canon.....that may change in a few months but for now it is reality..

Neil..

Comment #11

Canon vs. Nikon is practically a religious thing most people pick one or the other, and never look back. I went with Canon just because my friend went with Canon. I can't say it's any better than Nikon, especially having never shot Nikon, but I've certainly been happy with Canon. As others said, I'd strongly discourage anything else Sigma, Sony, et al. make what are probably great cameras, but I think it pays to stick with the more popular ones..

I just picked up a second-hand Canon 10D for about $300 on eBay. As others have pointed out, what really matters is the lens, not the camera. For the really high-end lenses, though, expect to spend around $1,000. As others have pointed out, over time, you care less and less about the camera and more and more about the lenses on it...

Comment #12

I had a good look in the Nikon d80 threads, and there was some awesome shots in there which really impressed me..

I can see that it is all about the lens, so l will just hunt around to see what lens would suit the D80 as far as action shots.

My main reason for the camera is to take action shots of bikes, but of course l will be using it for everything else as well.

I was looking on Ebay last night, and being a seller on there myself, it still worries me that l will hand over my money to some shonky seller thats stole someones account..lol, but l guess thats the risk you take isnt it.

As for Cannons..is there much difference between the 20 and 30??..

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