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Comments (30)

There are a bunch of websites like this. In general I think the diplomas are worth the paper they are printed on basically...

Comment #1

But is it legal... I think it is messed up how someone can spend 120$ and be set for life.....

Comment #2

I am not sure how it works exactly. I have never been to an interview and been asked for a physical copy of a diploma. I am not sure what school you "graduated" from or how it is verified. I guess I should get a degree in Advanced Quantum Physics..

Comment #3

The internet lol!.

The problem comes around when you say you have a degree in X and then you get job Y but since you really didnt get the degree your kinda going to get found out pretty quick,.

If you use one of these things to get a job, you must be desperate, and for $120 if your going to use one, just scan one and photoshop it lol..

Comment #4

In Australia someone did and we have the laws now preventing "Diploma Mills"..

Comment #5

So basically this website is assuming that you have the knowledge of whatever you want to get a degree in, and they're just giving you a degree because you want to order one. I feel sorry for anyone that believes this is real. I'm sure there will be people out there who actually go ahead and buy this thinking it's legit! I hope this website gets shutdown. jberryhill is an expert in these matters, I'm not sure if he still browses NamePros but if he does I'm sure he can explain to us whether or not this is legal and how this website can be shut down...

Comment #6

Please cease and desist from putting down this site as it's where I recieved my diploma as a certified domainer...

Comment #7

Legal or no legal? that is the question. They say they will give a degree based on thier requirements. Now, one thing they do not say, if it is an accredited degree (they are not). IMO- the legality may come in when you are asked about an accredited degree. You would be the one lying about it.

Look at it this way, how many colleges out there give "honorary deagrees", is this a degree? yes, it is an accredited degree... hmmmm. Basically, these companies have standards, some are just lower than others. You do get a piece of paper, whether it is worth anything all depends on who checks...

Comment #8

These places even gave a CAT a degree. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma_mill.

These things can only get you in to hefty trouble if you try to use one to get a job. Totally asinine and retarded if you ask me. For gods sake they gave a house cat a freakin degree based on fast food and paperboy experience. WTF!?..

Comment #9

They say you must testify under perjury that you have sufficient life experience to get a degree.

They say there's a legal loophole.

These "legal loopholes" are one reason why society is so corrupt. People use "legal" methods to take advantage of others. If there's nothing specifically written, people feel free to do what they know should be wrong. Why are there thousands upon thousands of laws? To cover all the loopholes which people always look for. It's ridiculous. If anybody goes for this they will probably find this isn't worth the paper it's written on...

Comment #10

Not that selling docs isn't going on offline in places you wouldn't expect. But still, sad sad to see they can just make a website with this...

Comment #11

I don't have day one of college experience yet I owned a retail operation for 10 years. Are you saying that I don't deserve experience credits when obtaining a degreee? Just because some people exploit this doesn't mean it can't be a legitimate and legal service. I am fairly certain I could apply myself to certain colleges asking for credit based upon my vast experience in certain areas. I know a shitload more than most 4 year college grads...

Comment #12

That highlighted part is undoubtedly true!.

I never cease to be amazed at the morons that are coming out of accredited institutions with degrees in hand. These days a smart interviewer will focus on what a person knows and how they think. Degrees are *an* indicator of knowledge, but hardly *the* indicator, and certainly less reliable than years ago. I frequently ask a person to solve a problem on the spot during an interview... just to see *how* they think. The actual solution is less important than judging their reasoning process. This is usually a shocker to the interviewee that was prepared to talk about their dissertation, and only their dissertation...

Comment #13

Real experience credits should be allowed, provided they can be confirmed,Imo.

If you read a lot of these sites disclosures, they say these degrees are for "Novelty Purposes" That makes them legal. If presented to a prospective employer, that is illegal...

Comment #14

If anyone read the TOS (http://www.instantdegrees.com/tos.html) you would find some key (RED FLAGS), which raises the question of it's legitimacy. In some countries this product/service would be deemed completely illegal. This tells you that it's your responsibility to check whether it's valid or not within your country. Press/Journalist not permitted to try their product/service and write about it. Law enforcement/Law agency is not permitted to investigate. You can't use their product/service as evidence for a civil or criminal investigation.

This statement is key, because it could imply you can't use it for any job or anything else, other than as a novelty item. The company itself may not be the only one involved, there might be other companies/educational institutions involved which desire to remain anonymous. First you are not allowed to reveal who is involved and then if you do so, you will be guilty of breaching confidentiality. And what does it mean if you breach confidentiality? Just keep reading, it's coming up. So there you have it.

Final Note,.

They seem to want this contract to be held valid within Gibraltar, a British Overseas TerritorySo they might be subject to British law, which may invalidate this contract partially, or completely. However, I will state that if the US government got a wind of this operation, I seriously doubt that the contract would hold at all. Too many ways for it to be invalidated, within the rules ofcourse. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and do not provide, or claim to provide, legal advice. All commentary, on this subject is for educational purposes only. If you need legal advice, please consult a lawyer...

Comment #15

I got my Master degree in professional online scamming and have just opened up my own online degree website!.

THANKS INSTANT DEGREES!..

Comment #16

Exactly, the onus is on you NOT to use it as a educational reference. Same thing as if you create a certificate on your own PC, there is no law against you doing that for your own entertainment. The law only comes into effect if you try to pass it off as real to gain an advantage be it monetary or otherwise...

Comment #17

I sent the following email to them. (to see a response. I'm not really interested) they replied from a hotmail address with I hope this so called loophole gets shut down..

Comment #18

Set for life?.

This degree is a joke.

If the employer is so stupid, then he deserves nothing better.

A scientific degree without dissertation/thesis and publications in scientific journals does not exist anyway..

Comment #19

Not at all!.

For people who really have the knowledge, they SHOULD be able to get it, but not just anybody off the street who swears they are experts.

I myself learned a great deal of HTML, CSS, XML, PHP, MySQL, AS3, and Javascript all in a little more than a year, and can make a fairly descent site. I also learned Russian fluently without any course taught by a person, and can speak with any Russian as a native speaks. I haven't been to college for these, but I'm sure I know almost as much as college grads in computer programming and more in Russian, and I'd like credit for that. But just because I go in, pay $120, and get a paper, doesn't mean I know fluent Russian, or javascript and PHP programming.

How can they check to see if you actually have the knowledge before you go and show your "diploma". Any Joe can go in and swear they are experts in a field and get a diploma when they don't deserve it, and it seems they give it! This is not right...

Comment #20

I would have to agree with the post above.. (too long to quote). I believe colleges should award credits for having a majority of knoledge in a subject. However, I do not believe in these degree mills. I also do not believe that they should be able to award any type of diploma...

Comment #21

First of all: Thanks for serving our country!.

As for this part: "I believe colleges should award credits for having a majority of knoledge in a subject.".

They already do that in accredited universities. Among other things, I got credit for German this way. My native language is English, but I picked German up along the way. The way it is done at accredited institutions is that you take *all* of the required tests, and if you pass you get credit. Obviously it should be more than taking some oath like "yea, sure, I can speak German"...

Comment #22

This is how I got my first credits for Photoshop class and math !..

Comment #23

I don't believe in the Diploma Mills either but my point is that the loophole involved here isn't wrong. It's an allowance to provide a person actual credit in college based upon experience. If you close that loophole you shut down Diplima Mills but you also turn away real life experience in legitimate accredited colleges which do offer credits based on experience (some at least)...

Comment #24

Then according to this site you can pay them and be a professor. this site is a joke and a waste of time, since you can't quote them that you have degree based on what they're selling, it's just a mere diploma factory...

Comment #25

I don't think there should be a loophole at all and this one is as bad as it gets. However, by that I am not saying that life experience should not be taken into account, as going to an accredited college/university and taking the exams or even presenting real life application of the subject matter should be enough to be awarded with a diploma.

For example labrocca, in your case I don't see the need of an examination since your retail business is your proof (real life application of the subject matter), do you get what I mean? Knowledge of the subject matter should be proved either by examination or by real life application, the argument here is for the verification process, which is non-existent in a system that abuses the legal loopholes aforementioned...

Comment #26

It is perhaps a bit more complex when it comes to diplomas. Accredited universities have a depth + breadth requirement. The depth is in the "major" for undergraduate degrees, but there is also a breadth requirement to make sure that the person has a well-rounded education. Universities already allow you to challenge most courses by exam, but the diploma also requires a reasonable degree of breadth in studies. Using the case of German in my earlier post, I took this by exam to satisfy the foreign language requirement. My undergraduate degrees were in math and physics, but I still needed to demonstrate that I knew a foreign language.

For example people in the sciences must also take classes in humanities, and vice versa. In graduate school I didn't have to worry about distribution requirements outside my field of study... although I ended up using my knowledge of the German language to read key papers in physics.

I suppose one could challenge *all* courses associated with a particular degree, including the courses associated with the breadth requirement. I don't know if any institutions allow you to challenge everything. At the time I was single... and taking classes outside the physics and math departments had other benefits..

Comment #27

Actually those requirements are sometimes entirely waived for some elite individuals that have shown through their own merit to be extremely successful and cunning in their own respective field major without the need to have the well-rounded base of education that you have mentioned.

Case in Point: Not to long ago, Bill Gates received an "Honorary Diploma" in Business from Harvard University. So, there are exceptions to the rules. http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=198500321..

Comment #28

"honorary diplomas" are hardly anything new... and by *any* measure Bill Gates is an exception to most rules.

Good point though. I am still curious whether there are "non-honorary" degrees at accredited institutions that are awarded to individuals based solely on challenging the standard depth+breadth requirements. I would certainly not oppose something like that. OTOH, I think it would make degrees from accredited institutions meaningless if (for example) it became standard practice to award standard business degrees to everybody that has managed a Burger King.

To counter my own argument: There are some real morons coming out of college these days, so challenging *everything* for credit might not be so difficult... (spoken like the true geezer that I am).

That is why I said earlier in this thread that one needs to really dig during interviews regardless of degree to make sure that the interviewee is not a complete moron with a valid degree...

Comment #29

I guess Bill needs the help to get another job.....

Comment #30


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