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Question: how often do you/should you use Photoshop?.

Do you use it on every picture that you think is a "keeper"?.

I was messing around on I-Photo and was diddling with their adjustment tools - I think it made some of the pictures, even nicer. I used the "sharpness" feature the most, and it added a little "pop" to the shot..

Is that cheating?  .

Thank you,.

RNW123..

Comments (11)

RNW123 wrote:.

Question: how often do you/should you use Photoshop?.

Do you use it on every picture that you think is a "keeper"?.

Heck, I PP every pic. Actually, I throw the bad ones away and PP everything else. When you get good at PP and if you use the right tools, it's easy. I have a few PP steps that I apply to every pic. I leave sharpening low in my camera, so I apply a small amount of sharpening to every shot. I also apply a small amount of NR.

Funny (short) names for "Local Contrast Enhancement" and "Selective Saturation Adjustment". If you don't over do them, they make images really "snap"..

After this, I adjust WB and exposure on images individually in LR. Then, if a have a special image or a special problem with an image, I export it from LR to PSE5, where I use selections and layers to help..

I was messing around on I-Photo and was diddling with theiradjustment tools - I think it made some of the pictures, even nicer.I used the "sharpness" feature the most, and it added a little "pop"to the shot..

Is that cheating?  .

NO! With digital photography PP is half of the game..

But there are different opinions on this. Some people like the challenge of taking great pix w/o any PP. Some people still use film..

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #1

RNW123 wrote:.

Question: how often do you/should you use Photoshop?.

Unless you're a pro shooting for someone else, do as you please. It's your camera, it's your computer, and they're your photos..

Is that cheating?  .

Not unless you're a photojournalist, a crime scene photographer, taking photos for insurance records, etc...

Comment #2

Thoughts-.

-digital cameras unlike film need sharpening on their images. you cannot get out of it. I leave my incamera dslr sharpening at zero and do all sharpening in the pc. for me all that is necessary is to hit auto sharpen in pe6 or cs2. it does what I am happy with. I pc sharpen every shot, period..

- as for any other pp. I do it if the shot neededs it. I make it a point that I am bringing pics to the pc of sufficient quality that any further pp is unnessessary. this of course means that the user is suppling the technique skill and knowledge to get that level of IQ. this also means that I do almost zero cropping in the pc. I much prefer to do it in the camera though the use of the zoom on the lens, or changing lenses, or moving to a better position.

This means I take less shots than most people on these forums but I have a higher amount of good shots going to the pc. my style. it may not be others..

-as for adding pop. sometimes called saturation. I do not add any at all. I have my camera set to give accurate color of the scene and that is what I am after. if there is a lot of color in the scene that is what I get; if there is little color that is fine also. I know that whatever amount of color I get accurately represents the original scene colors, which is what I am after.



-cheating. in what way if you are trying to get a scene to look the way you want it to, not necesessarily the original, but what you want; then you are demonstrating the creativity of the photographer, YOU. the only important thing is that the photographer knows the difference between the image that has been created in pp and the original scene...

Comment #3

Hi,.

I have been wrestling with this same issue for the last 6 mo. I was disappointed that I had to (cheat) By sharpening to get the clarity I thought the camera should produce. I recently looked at my photos on my wifes new laptop and was amazed. No need for sharpening, very sharp images. The laptop screen is HD (1080p) it made all the difference in clarity. I am using a Nikon D50 and do not feel need to post process (cheat) for sharpness anymore.

From the forums I look at it seems that PP is a very accepted practice, hope this helps...

Comment #4

RNW123 wrote:.

Question: how often do you/should you use Photoshop?.

'Should' is pretty subjective. For an awful lot of people, it'd be expensive overkill. I count myself in that category I'm not even using a color-calibrated monitor under controlled lighting (although the FlexView LCD panel on my ThinkPad does, subjectively, seem pretty reasonable checked against the prints I get), so if I were being picky tweaking my hardware setup might be a better first step..

Do you use it on every picture that you think is a "keeper"?.

Don't have it. Do have Olympus Studio, which I use to tweak such things as white balance, contrast, curves, vignetting correction, sharpness, noise control et al. I don't shoot high volumes nor do I need to race to get a scoop, and am willing to simply delete rather than salvage images (yield rates are pretty low if I'm shooting evening softball with my present gear and some things like seriously OOF, motion-blurred, or having shot 100ms too late are inherently difficult or impossible to fix, anyway) so the images I do keep, I have time to tweak. It's been obligatory for the evening-sport shots anyway, since underexposure was unavoidable (adults running quickly, jumping to make catches et al, well after sundown, very little light == suboptimal)..

Shots in less-demanding circumstances will usually get converted to JPEG with the settings I was using at the time of shot..

I was messing around on I-Photo and was diddling with theiradjustment tools - I think it made some of the pictures, even nicer.I used the "sharpness" feature the most, and it added a little "pop"to the shot..

Is that cheating?  .

For some perspective, recall that one particularly reknowned photographer wrote a book called 'The Negative', and spent quite some time in post-processing in the darkroom...

Comment #5

Other than Photoshop Elements - is there an online freeware/shareware that you would recommend?.

I think I should play around with something to figure out what features I'd like, before purchasing Photoshop or Elements..

Thanks for input!.

RNW123..

Comment #6

All images could use at least some PP. It's certainly not cheating and not something that began with digital imaging. Film labs used post processing techniques to improve image quality. Some labs were better than others, but genuine Kodak processing was by far the best. I know from first hand experience that Kodak processing was worth the extra $$$ (and wait). Any lab would suffice if they merely developed the film without PP...

Comment #7

RNW123 wrote:.

Other than Photoshop Elements - is there an online freeware/sharewarethat you would recommend?.

Seems like you are a mac user from your first post. I would suggest you go to the Retouching forum and the Mac forum and ask this question. Since I use a PC I really cant help you with this..

I think I should play around with something to figure out whatfeatures I'd like, before purchasing Photoshop or Elements..

There is a reason Photoshop is the gold standard of post processing, and a reason it costs an arm and a leg..

However if you are on a budget you may want to look at The GIMP..

Http://www.gimp.org/.

And consider a PC..

Those who forget history are condemned to go to summer school...

Comment #8

It may not be the quality of the screen alone..

I recently bought a new monitor, had some colour issues and played with pics side-by-side in Windows PictureViewer and PS Elements..

Many pictures, particularly when zoomed, were significantly better, sharper in PS Elements ...

Comment #9

RNW123 wrote:.

Thanks...so PS Elements is a no-brainer then?.

If you meant to ask, "...so getting PS Elements is a no-brainer then?", I'd say yes..

There is a 30-day free trial on most software, including PSE..

Try Picassa and Faststone Image Viewer. Both free and basic..

Not sure about what works on a Mac, if that is what you use. Sorry..

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #10

Question: how often do you/should you use Photoshop?.

- Always..

Do you use it on every picture that you think is a "keeper"?.

- I would never even consider a photo finished until PP in Photoshop. Very rarely one can get lucky to have taken a photo for which DPP is enough..

...and it added a little "pop" to the shot.Is that cheating? .

- Making your photo look as you saw it when you took it (notice that I'm not saying "look correct") is certainly not cheating same as film development/printing was not cheating. On the other hand, there are 2 purposes for PP: correcting mistakes (better not to make them in the first place) and optimizing the good result your camera gives you (always a must)..

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