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I have adobe photoshop elements 4.0. Do I need to crop my photo in each size that I am going to print? When I crop in close and ty to print in different sizes it sometimes cuts off the feet or head of the person.Thanks for any help in advance...

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Bobbie176 wrote:.

I have adobe photoshop elements 4.0. Do I need to crop my photo ineach size that I am going to print? When I crop in close and ty toprint in different sizes it sometimes cuts off the feet or head ofthe person.Thanks for any help in advance..

It's not quite clear what you mean..

1. You can resize a picture by changing the resolution, without cropping (as long as you donot change the proportions). if you have a picture that is 12 x 8 inches at 200 pixels per inch, and you want to print it at 6 x 4, just set the resolution to 400 pixels per inch. Go to 'image' then 'resize' then 'image size'. Make sure the 'resample image' box is un-checked. Then just set the length to what you want, and the width and resolution of theimage will adjust to suit..

Or, use the crop tool, making sure you set the aspect ratio to what you want (e.g. 5 x 7 in, 8 x 10 in etc.) and select the part of the picture you want - the software will do the rest..

2. I have noteiced that when printing I lose a little bit around the edge of the frame, so if someone's head is just in the picture (but right at the top) it will be slightly cut off when printed. is that what you mean? if so, just leave a little extra room around your subject when you crop the picture..

I hope this helps..

Best wishesMike..

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This is the way I do it..

First off I am particular about the correct composition in the camera. I use the lens and my position to get the scene the way I want it. when I get to the pc, my goal is to crop 0%. of late that is what I have been doing. or if I crop at all I crop to get the BEST pic I can from my original image. this may mean that the resultant keeper does not fit the 4x6 5x7 8x10 etc; so be it.

If the pic is framed it can be masked to cover the white anyway on all four sides..

So I am not concerned in fitting an image to a size, I am only interested in getting the best final scene I can..

Besides, if one were to shoot panoramas they would not fit any preset print size; they all come out odd sizes..

Also, for prints 8x10 and smaller, I do my own printing. when you do your own the software has adjustments that you can just print what you have so that it fits on the size paper in use, keeping the original aspect ratio. you also have the choice of turning that off and it will fit it as best it can but use all, say of a 5x7, and MAKE it fit. this means it will crop something. the paper itself is say the 8x10 and that is what it stays no matter what is printed on it. you may have 2 opposite sides that have a larger white border..

I use kodakgallery.com for all my printing above 8x10. they have a similar setup to my printer software. the forced to fit a size paper can be turned on or off to suit you. I just turn it on and off on the preview and see which I like the best. they also have a picture-perfect device which makes the colors levels and contrast correct when they print it. it can be turned on or off.



I also have found this site for my panoramas. I will be trying them in the near future.http://www.jumbogiant.com/also their tips page-http://www.jumbogiant.com/services/tips.html..

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Bobbie176 wrote:.

I have adobe photoshop elements 4.0. Do I need to crop my photo ineach size that I am going to print? When I crop in close and ty toprint in different sizes it sometimes cuts off the feet or head ofthe person.Thanks for any help in advance..

If your image is not in the correct AR, (aspect ratio (h:w)), that you want to print, then the software will either crop or stretch your image to fit your desired print size. This is not a good method..

It is better to first crop your image to the correct AR, but do not resample and alter your pixels. Leave your image at the same pixel resolution, you are just cropping away (throwing away) pixels and leaving the remaining pixels unchanged. DON'T RESAMPLE!!!.

Your printer driver will take care of the pixel conversion and CMYK conversion that is necessary, based on your printer settings (ie: normal, fine, dpi, etc).

The important item for you, again, is to crop your image to the correct AR!! For the size print you want. (ie: 4x6, 8x10, 11x14, etc).

4x6 AR=0.666=x/y8x10 AR=0.811x14 AR=0.7857..

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Thanks for you help.That is what I wanted to know.Now one more question,When I crop to a 5 by 7 it seems to distort the head.It goes from a head that looks right to a head that looks long.What can I do about this as I would like to print in a 5 by 7.?That is when I send it to the printer it does this as it does turn it around in the prnter setting.That is the photo wizard in my pictures as that is were I print it from.Maybe I need to try printing from regular software ...

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Bobbie176 wrote:.

Thanks for you help.That is what I wanted to know.Now one morequestion,When I crop to a 5 by 7 it seems to distort the head.It goesfrom a head that looks right to a head that looks long..

If it is distorting your image when you crop, then you are not actually cropping the image. You are changing the x to y display ratio which will distort the image and is not want you want to do. Since I do not have PSE I can not advise you how the crop function works. Maybe someone else can direct you on this..

Some people use the stretch (or distort) function to stretch a persons picture vertically by lets say 5% so they look thinner. So this is sometimes useful but not in this case..

What can I doabout this as I would like to print in a 5 by 7.?That is when I sendit to the printer it does this as it does turn it around in theprnter setting.That is the photo wizard in my pictures as that iswere I print it from.Maybe I need to try printing from regularsoftware ...

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I am using the crop tool.you click on it and you can set it for any photo size or photo ratio or for no restrictions.I always use the 8 by 10 photo setting as this seems to print the photo in any size except the 5 by 7 and it comes out fine.I just can't seem to get a good 5 by 7...

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Bobbie176 wrote:.

I am using the crop tool.you click on it and you can set it for anyphoto size or photo ratio or for no restrictions.I always use the 8by 10 photo setting as this seems to print the photo in any sizeexcept the 5 by 7 and it comes out fine.I just can't seem to get agood 5 by 7..

If you crop 8x10 and then print 5x7, or any other size, the printer driver (PD) must alter your 8x10 AR either by stretching the image or re-cropping the image. Normally you can tell your printer driver which to use. Again, this is not a good method. Your PD is probably set to, stretch to fit..

The BEST way is....If you crop 8x10; then print 8x10, or 4x5, or 12x15. etc.If you crop 5x7; then print 5x7, or 10x14, or 2.5x3.5, etc..

This way you, not the PD, has control of the entire image and it will not be altered by the PD..

Obviously if you crop 2x3 (AR 0.66666), you can print any multiple AR such as:4x6, 6x9, 1x1.5, 12x18.

AR is the ratio and not the exact dimensions. We just find it more convenient to specify AR: 2x3 instead of AR: 0.6666 x 1..

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