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Help on a good compact digital cam
Hello all,.

This is my first post in this forum. I was planning to buy my first dgital cam. I am having a camera phone which serves some basic camera needs. But I am plaaning to upgrade to a good digital cam. I was looking for pan FX500 and pan TZ5 and went to a local store to buy one. But out of the confusion between these two, I could not buy one.



Now I would like to have an advice on some other cams which can fall into this category of compact digi cams. I am not much interested in Sony or Fujifilm. What about a Canon?.

And one more thing I would like to know is the difference between 5X zoom and 10X zooms. Could somebody share some images with these zooms for comparison?..

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Jessmonm wrote:.

I waslooking for pan FX500 and pan TZ5 and went to a local store to buyone. But out of the confusion between these two, I could not buy one.I am fully aware of all the functionalities of both and understandthat both have merits/demerits..

Why the confusion? Is that because of size of TZ5?.

Now I would like to have an advice on some other cams which can fallinto this category of compact digi cams. I am not much interested inSony or Fujifilm. What about a Canon?.

First choose whether wide end of zoom is more important or it is tele end you are after..

If undecided then Ricoh R8 which has as much zoom (7.1x) with wide angle as you can get in an ultra-compact. IQ is good too. Among Canon ones - SD890IS (5x)For more tele zoom - Canon TX1 (10x, swivel LCD, great movie mode)For more wide end - FX500.All above are ultra-compacts..

And one more thing I would like to know is the difference between 5Xzoom and 10X zooms. Could somebody share some images with these zoomsfor comparison?.

You can get fair idea about the difference from TX1 images below (Mid telephoto - 6x, Full telephoto - 10x).http://www.steves-digicams.com/2007_reviews/canon_tx1_samples.htmlBest Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612Thanks for your time...

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Ajay0612 wrote:.

Why the confusion? Is that because of size of TZ5?.

Yes. to a large extend and also because of the great looks of FX500..

First choose whether wide end of zoom is more important or it istele end you are after..

I am pretty new in photography. So am not sure about those. If you have got time, would you please explain these..?.

If undecided then Ricoh R8 which has as much zoom (7.1x) with wideangle as you can get in an ultra-compact. IQ is good too. Among Canonones - SD890IS (5x).

Thx.. I will definitely check the SD890IS. I am not in favor of Ricoh may be coz I dont know much abt it...

You can get fair idea about the difference from TX1 images below (Midtelephoto - 6x, Full telephoto - 10x).http://www.steves-digicams.com/2007_reviews/canon_tx1_samples.html.

Thanks a lot for the reply Ajay.. I will have a look at all these...

Btw, which is your cam that you used to capture the images in your picasa album?.

Rgds,Jess..

Comment #2

Jessmonm wrote:.

Ajay0612 wrote:.

First choose whether wide end of zoom is more important or it istele end you are after..

I am pretty new in photography. So am not sure about those. If youhave got time, would you please explain these..?.

Wide end means the starting point of zoom. Wider the angle of view at that end - more of scene in photo. e.g. The zoom range of FX500 is 25-125mm, while TZ5's is 28-280mm (both denotes focal length range in 35mm film camera equivalent values for sake of comparison). Here wide end of FX500 starts at 25mm which is less than TZ5's 28mm. So FX500 will cover more of the scene from the same point.Another example:.

TZ5's zoom range is 28-280mm and TX1's is 39-390mm. Both have 10x zoom. But TZ5 has wider angle view at the start of zoom. On the other hand TX1 will zoom in more on the distant objects than TZ5.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_angle_lens.

Btw, which is your cam that you used to capture the images in your picasaalbum?.

Canon TX1 (First album), Sony DSC R1 (2, 4,5,7, 8th & 9th), Fuji S602 (6th & 12th), Canon SD900 (3rd). Other albums are a mix from above..

BTW you can get such details by clicking"more info" at right hand side of the particular image while viewing it.)Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612Thanks for your time...

Comment #3

How much telephoto is useful depends on the subjects that are important to the photographer. For a casual family camera you don't need much at all, any "standard" 3X camera will be fine. For shooting amateur sports or stage shows, some modest telephoto is nice (around 200mm). For birding or wildlife extreme telephoto comes into play. But for the extreme stuff a SLR-like camera will be a happier fit than an ultracompact. One such example of a SLR-like camera is the Canon S5 IS..

For once-in-a-while telephoto needs you can always fall back on the digital zoom that extends the optical zoom of the lens. Resolution will not be as high a quality as the optical zoom, but still far from hopeless. For examples of digital zoom see one of my web pages -.

Http://fujif45fd.needsabeach.com/.../F45fd_digitalzoom/HTML_Index/index.html.

It's tempting to say "more optical zoom is always better". But that extra zoom will result in a bigger camera, or a more expensive camera, or poorer image formation, or some combination of those factors. Small camera selection always means compromise. For a super camera, get a DSLR..

Kelly Cook..

Comment #4

Hello all,.

I am very thankful for the nice replies we are having in dpreview. Kudos to dpreview !!.

Could somebody advise me on whether I should go for manual controls or bigger zoom. I would like to take photography as my hobby and would be trying with SLRs later on. So is it good to have some manual controls over the digi cam so that I can learn?.

And again, how far the picture quality be different when you opt for auto/manual controls for shutter speed etc.. ? .

Thnx in advanceJess..

Comment #5

Hi Jess,.

Could somebody advise me on whether I should go for manual controlsor bigger zoom. I would like to take photography as my hobby andwould be trying with SLRs later on. So is it good to have some manualcontrols over the digi cam so that I can learn?.

Manual controls or bigger zooms are not the alternative choice. Controls are mostly concerning exposure and white balance..

Manual controls are great to learn (related) items, such as ISO, exposure time, aperture, white balance and so on. At most digicams, you cannot even dial in the aperture. The camera decides for you. (It's understandable though, because little digicams have a very limited aperture range.).

The best tool for learning is a DSLR. Even the cheapest DSLR has a lot of possibilities to manipulate the shot. It's just far less limited..

Cheap digicams with full manual control are Canon's A series (A590, 720 etc.), for example. But I have no experience with them. Image quality is arguably very good..

And again, how far the picture quality be different when you opt forauto/manual controls for shutter speed etc.. ? .

There is no difference per se. If the exposure metering of the digicam is fooled, you can manually correct it to get a better picture. But the basis is always the camera's exposure meter. If you trust the exposure meter, you will always choose the same exposure value as the camera does automatically..

The fun with DSLRs is that you can alter the character of your pictures by changing the aperture and thereby changing the depth of field (DOF). Digicams are very limited here, because their DOF is large at all aperture settings..

I would buy a cheap DSLR (they are all very good, don't listen to the fanboys here), a decent kit lens and photography books. And don't forget to shoot it's the best training..

Greg..

Comment #6

Thanks so much for the advices...I bought a TZ5 now and started shooting....

The 10x zoom and also the zooming while video swung it in favour of tz5 at last....

The only reason y I ddnt take a dSLR is coz I hate carrying a bulk. I will consider buying one later..

So far so good.....

Thanks again all..

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