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Help Needed - Canon 40D v Nikon D80
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I'm finally ready to buy a d-SLR camera after wanting one for a couple of years now. I've done some research online and on this site and have narrowed down the decision between the Canon EOS 40D and the Nikon D80. Not knowing much about what the specifications listed mean for either camera or the lenses that are available for them, I really don't know which performs better..

I will basically use this SLR for everything I currently use my point-n-shoot for: close-ups of individuals, group shots, fast-action (babies crawling around, cats playing, social gatherings, etc.), vistas and your general nature shots. Essentially, I just want to not only be able to take better pictures but to become a better amateur photographer..

Any recommendation for one or the other? Should I stick with the lens provided in the kit or get a different/better one?.

Thanks!.

Skully..

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Those are both very good cameras and both have great real glass Pentaprisms which help to make using the viewfinder a pleasure..

First of all, let me say that I'm a Nikon user and love the quality of Nikon lenses. But, in this case, I'd suggest the Canon 40D. The 40D is a pro-level camera with a real magnesium body that is quite durable. The features and quality of that model is just a good bit nicer than the D80. The thing is that Canon has recently reduced the price of the 40D such that it's about the same price as the better consumer cameras like the D80. It's hard to beat that..

I don't think there's a better camera out there for under $1000 than the 40D. You'd have to step up to the Nikon D300 to do better and that would be around $1650 or so. The Canon 40D is also noted for it's excellent low light performance..

You're probably going to hear from a lot of other fans of other brands, but I'm telling you, there just is not anything else comparable at that price point than the 40D, not even close, in my opinion. If it were still at it's original price of $1300, it would be a different story, but not now. Remember, this is from a Nikon fan.Cheers, Craig..

Comment #1

Great info. I really like both but have been leaning toward the Canon, even though the Nikon is actually priced lower. I'm all for saving money when I can, but I don't want to feel that I'm missing out on quality because I wasn't willing to pay just a tad more for it..

What about the lens option? Will the default multi-purpose one suffice for both zoom and wide angle shots? Will it be able to capture well fast moving targets?.

Thanks again!..

Comment #2

I don't have a 40D either. Regarding the kit lens it depends what it comes with. Avoid the version one 18-55 kit lens. The new version two 18-55 IS lens is better...

Comment #3

And I can say for a beginner, it really doesn't matter. You'll do well going with each. Both cameras have excellent lens systems. As for picture quality any difference will be negligible. What affects image quality most in order from most important to least important is:.

LightProximity to subjectLensCamera... and camera is way behind the first three..

For now, get the kit lens. There is no point in getting anything else until you know what you need, and you won't know what you need until you start shooting..

For the first year (give or take) you will be the limiting factor in the images you take, not the gear. And more than likely you'll be disappointed with your initial results - don't let this bring you down. It's a learning curve everyone goes through who goes from point and shoot to DSLR..

Skully32 wrote:.

Great info. I really like both but have been leaning toward theCanon, even though the Nikon is actually priced lower. I'm all forsaving money when I can, but I don't want to feel that I'm missingout on quality because I wasn't willing to pay just a tad more for it..

What about the lens option? Will the default multi-purpose onesuffice for both zoom and wide angle shots? Will it be able tocapture well fast moving targets?.

Thanks again!.

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IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

For now, get the kit lens. There is no point in getting anything elseuntil you know what you need, and you won't know what you need untilyou start shooting..

All excellent points, but I was wondering what type of PS camera you have now? A 18-55 mm lens has a relatively modest zoom range (I think 55 mm is about 3x). If your current PS camera has 7x and you use it zoomed out a lot, then you should consider getting a 135 mm lens. If you have an 11x lens, that would be near 200 mm (I think, but am not certain of the exact mag levels)..

To be perfectly honest, I've only been shooting a DSLR for about a month. I had a SLR for about 30 years (a nikon btw). I don't think you can go wrong with either. The 40D was out of my range and I had some older lenses that I wanted to use with my new camera so I went with the D80...

Comment #5

I have the Canon PowerShot S70 with 7.1 Megapixels. The lens specs from the Canon website is listed below:.

LensFocal Length5.8-20.7mm zoom Lens (35mm film equivalent: 28-100mm)Digital Zoom4.1xFocusing RangeNormal AF: 44cm/1.4 ft.-InfinityMacro AF: 4-44cm/1.6 in.- 1.4 ft. (WIDE)30-44cm/1.0-1.4 ft. (TELE)Autofocus System.

9-point AiAF (Automatic Focus Point Selection)/1-point AF (Fixed to center)/FlexiZone AF/AE.

From having used this camera for the last several years, I know that wide-angle shots of picturesque scenery is ok, not great or spectacular, but okay. Zooming in on picturesque scenery distorts the image...I don't have a great zoom on it. Something like 4.1X digital zoom...

Comment #6

From having used this camera for the last several years, I know thatwide-angle shots of picturesque scenery is ok, not great orspectacular, but okay. Zooming in on picturesque scenery distorts theimage...I don't have a great zoom on it. Something like 4.1X digitalzoom..

Digital zoom is totally useless...

Comment #7

Guidenet wrote:.

I don't think there's a better camera out there for under $1000 than.

The 40D. You'd have to step up to the Nikon D300 to do better andthat would be around $1650 or so. The Canon 40D is also noted for itsexcellent low light performance..

You're probably going to hear from a lot of other fans of otherbrands, but I'm telling you, there just is not anything elsecomparable at that price point than the 40D, not even close, in myopinion. If it were still at it's original price of $1300, it wouldbe a different story, but not now. Remember, this is from a Nikon fan.Cheers, Craig.

I fully agree - and with the money saved you can spend more on lenses which is more important thn the body anyway.Phil M. - Toronto, Canadahttp://www.flickr.com/photos/12624630@N02/..

Comment #8

Its a tough call. The 40D is a marginally better camera all around, and noticeably faster, but the D80 is a fair bit cheaper and no slouch in any department (plus I prefer the feel, but that is subjective). Neither kit lens is stellar, but you can spend a fortune upgrading later...

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Comment #10

Mrxdimension wrote:.

I don't have a 40D either. Regarding the kit lens it depends what itcomes with. Avoid the version one 18-55 kit lens. The new versiontwo 18-55 IS lens is better..

With Canon and Nikon the 18-55 kits are usually packaged with the entry level cameras. 40D and D80 aren't entry level. Looks like the 40D is usually packaged with a 28-135 or 17-85. I think you can get the D80 with a 18-55 if you want but it is usually packaged with a 18-135..

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