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Help choose first DSLR, if any Canon XTi vs Sony A200
Great forums. Been reading for a few weeks..

My wife wants a new camera for Mother's day and we are both going to be using it. I'll be stuck with the kit lenses for about 12 months and need the body to last atleast 3 years. (She won't let me spend too much too soon. haha).

I was a hobby photographer in the 35mm days and would enjoy getting back into it. I do not have any of the old equipment so that does not play into the equation..

Wife loves, wants and needs point and shoot. Wants to be able to pick this new camera up and take snapshots of kids, dogs, etc....

I know the kit lenses tend to be not quite what any of us want long term, but it's what I have to use for a while..

One of my big objectives is to be able to take better photos of one of my kids who does martial arts and demonstrations. Most are daylight, outside and need the zoom. Some are indoors in places with poor lighting. Flash is okay to use in some situations, but not all..

I've narrowed our entry DSLR look down to the following. Based upon what I've listed above, is there a standout in the crowd below?.

Sony A200 KitDT 18-70mm f/3.5-5.6 lens75-300 mm f/4.5-5.6 lens$599.

Rebel XTi KitEF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-22 lensEF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III lensCanon bagExtra battery58mm UV filter$829 (This is the top of my budget range).

Keep in mind that while I want to grow into more of the hobby photography side, it is really important that my wife can still pick up the camera and shoot snapshots if she wants. Help!.

BTW, I've also looked at the Cannon Powershot S5 IS for her instead and I can relegate my hobby photography aspirations to the back burner for another two years or so..

Thanks!..

Comments (15)

Personally, I think the Sony A200 is a better camera and a better deal than the Canon XTi since it has in-body image stabilizer and has a better lens with more reach..

The price you quoted for the Sony is for the body and 18-70 kit lens.you'll need to add $230 with the 75-300 zoom..

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

Remember.always keep your receipt, the box, and everything that came in it!..

Comment #1

I was in the exact same boat. My husband wanted to buy me a DSLR for Mother's Day, also and I ended up with the XTi only because the Sony felt too heavy and clunky to me. The Nikon D40 and D60 also felt good to me so those might be a consideration, too. If it's not going to be a surprise, I'd say let her pick them up and play around with them to see how they feel to her and go from there...

Comment #2

J.D. - Thanks for the information..

Actually the $599 special price includes both lenses! That's what made it appealing to me. Go figure..

Thanks..

Comment #3

Thanks Kpicha..

Actually I just got back from BestBuy, who has the sale, and had my wife meet me up there. We both laid hands on both cameras. She really liked the feel of the XTi and I actually preferred the lends quality on the Sony better. Figures!  .

Were going to talk more tonight and see if we have a consensus..

Thanks for the feedback...

Comment #4

Tech4him wrote:.

Thanks Kpicha..

Actually I just got back from BestBuy, who has the sale, and had mywife meet me up there. We both laid hands on both cameras. She reallyliked the feel of the XTi and I actually preferred the lends qualityon the Sony better. Figures!  .

Were going to talk more tonight and see if we have a consensus..

Thanks for the feedback..

Lol! Sometimes you just can't win-  That's exactly how I felt but since I moved up from a P&S, the quality of the XTi is blowing me away anyway and I'm much happier knowing I have a camera that I'll be more inclined to pick up and shoot with (I kind of like the Canon colors better, too). Good luck with your decision!..

Comment #5

Wife just called. She found a great kit deal on both the Nikon D60 and D40x. That just clouded things a bit more. Both of these kits are in our same price range and include both the 18-55mm lens and the 55-200mm, plus other parts..

Anyone have a D60 or D40x and can comment on their AF mode quality for point and shoot type operation? Wife isn't going to learn all the functions, buttons and so on and needs to pick up and shoot..

Thanks all. This forum is great!..

Comment #6

Tech4him wrote:.

Wife just called. She found a great kit deal on both the Nikon D60and D40x. That just clouded things a bit more. Both of these kits arein our same price range and include both the 18-55mm lens and the55-200mm, plus other parts..

Anyone have a D60 or D40x and can comment on their AF mode qualityfor point and shoot type operation? Wife isn't going to learn all thefunctions, buttons and so on and needs to pick up and shoot..

Thanks all. This forum is great!.

Hello,.

I use Sony A100 and A700. I am very happy with the A mount. I tried D40 several times. Its pretty good but focusing mechanism seemed a bit slow, but silent and it tends to overexpose a bit. But main drawback or advantage of A200 is in body stabilization. I use 10 years old $50 minolta lenses, all stabilized.



One more point, I guess D40 has only 3 focus points, whereas A200 has 9 selectable points..

Other than that there is a huge pixel difference between D40 and A200, if that matters to you..

D40 lacks in-body focus motor, so older Nikon lenses and many third party lenses will not work either in D40 or D60, just a caution.ThanksAyan (Sonian)..

Comment #7

I would still choose the A200 over all the models mentioned..

Also, have a look at the Oly E-510 2-lens kit..

Selling around $700, it is a great camera..

I have one and love it!.

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

From my E-510:.

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Remember.always keep your receipt, the box, and everything that came in it!..

Comment #8

Tech4him wrote:.

J.D. - Thanks for the information..

Actually the $599 special price includes both lenses! That's whatmade it appealing to me. Go figure..

Thanks.

Just wondering who is selling the A200 at that price..

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

Remember.always keep your receipt, the box, and everything that came in it!..

Comment #9

Sure, It's BestBuy through 5/10/2008. In their Mothers day circular...

Comment #10

How well can you do on the A200 with the 18-70 kit lens with sports photography in a gynasium? (as an example) I'm thinking you crank the ISO to 1600, 1/250 or 1/500 shutter, etc... That's really the main purpose for this camera in the near future with our kids sports. Need to get clean action shots..

Wife has two gripes about the A200. First, it's a little bulky for her hands in her opinion. Secondly, she doesn't like the Sony name since we had a Sony handycam and had nothing but issues with it after it went out of warranty..

How available and what types of aftermarket lenses work with the A200? I mean are we talking about being able to get a used $100 Minolta lens and being able to use it on the A200?.

Thanks for the time!..

Comment #11

Tech4him wrote:.

How well can you do on the A200 with the 18-70 kit lens with sportsphotography in a gynasium? (as an example) I'm thinking you crank theISO to 1600, 1/250 or 1/500 shutter, etc... That's really the mainpurpose for this camera in the near future with our kids sports. Needto get clean action shots..

With any DSLR, for indoor sports you'll need a lens that opens up to at least f:2.8, but at 1600 ISO, f:1.4 or f:1.8 would be best..

For either Sony or Canon (and Sigma or Tamron) you can get new affordable AF 50mm and 85mm that open up to f:1.4 and f:1.8, 100mm macro, 105mm macro, and 135mm lenses that are at f:2.8 that would make great indoor sports lenses..

Here is a nice new piece of glass from Tamron:.

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Http://www.tamron.com/lenses/prod/70200_di.asp.

Tamron 70-200mm f:2.8 AF lens, selling at $700 in the US..

I've been playing around with it a lot at the store.nice alternative if you don't want to spend a lot (at least double) for the camera brand lens..

It seems very sharp and auto focuses pretty fast..

Right now it is only available in Canon EOS mount, but will be available soon in Sony/Minolta, Pentax and Nikon mounts (and will AF on D40/40x/60)..

How available and what types of aftermarket lenses work with theA200? I mean are we talking about being able to get a used $100Minolta lens and being able to use it on the A200?.

You won't have any problems getting lenses for the Sony A200..

Sigma and Tamron make a bunch of lenses for Sony/Minolta, but stay away from older Sigma zoom lenses from 5-10 years ago..

I've run into a bunch of older Sigma Minolta mount 28-200 and 28-300 zooms (the ones that came in the gold box) that will autofocus on the new Sony's, but the lens aperture control doesn't function with the Sony bodies..

Used to be able to send them in for a chip upgrade, but I don't think they offer that service anymore (no more parts or they just want to sell you a new lens)..

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

Remember.always keep your receipt, the box, and everything that came in it!..

Comment #12

Tech4him wrote:.

How well can you do on the A200 with the 18-70 kit lens with sportsphotography in a gynasium? (as an example) I'm thinking you crank theISO to 1600, 1/250 or 1/500 shutter, etc... That's really the mainpurpose for this camera in the near future with our kids sports. Needto get clean action shots..

Wife has two gripes about the A200. First, it's a little bulky forher hands in her opinion. Secondly, she doesn't like the Sony namesince we had a Sony handycam and had nothing but issues with it afterit went out of warranty..

How available and what types of aftermarket lenses work with theA200? I mean are we talking about being able to get a used $100Minolta lens and being able to use it on the A200?.

Thanks for the time!.

You can definitely use minolta 50mm f/1.7 indoor. Its sharp. My copy is excellent from f/2.8, a bit soft at f/1.7. A good lens for indoor and works with any A-mount. Price? <$100. They are available in ebay/keh/adorama..

You can have a look at the A-mount lens glossary and reviews at dyxum.com.ThanksAyan (Sonian)..

Comment #13

I would like to mention that Canon/Nikon/Olympus are true camera companies. Sony is an electronic company and seems to be trying to get into the camera dslr biz. If you plan to grow into this as a die hard hardcore photo geek you may want a long term proven player. Who is to know if the numbers do not look good to Sony in a few yrs and they pull out of the biz...

Comment #14

Lance_60031 wrote:.

I would like to mention that Canon/Nikon/Olympus are true cameracompanies. Sony is an electronic company and seems to be trying toget into the camera dslr biz. If you plan to grow into this as a diehard hardcore photo geek you may want a long term proven player. Whois to know if the numbers do not look good to Sony in a few yrs andthey pull out of the biz..

What a bunch of dribble..

Minolta was a camera company.Sony bought them out.pumped a whole lot of money into the company.and are now successfull again!.

And don't forget that half the digital cameras in the world (including just about ALL Nikon DSLR's) have Sony sensors..

Sony is here to stay..

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

Remember.always keep your receipt, the box, and everything that came in it!..

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