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First DSLR but serious!!!
Hey all.

I'm about to get my first DSLR, I have a Canon S2IS and film Camera too, I want something for Industrial photography and i'm also in nature-wildlife photography and night photogrphy for myself... I stock between D200 and 40D (S5Pro was also one of my options but the 6.17 MP Kinda disturb me cause I want 30x40 and 50x70cm print sometimes).. anyway I really need some help....

Thank U all..

Comments (12)

I would seriously look at the D300. It would be worth the extra investment in $$ over the D200 IMHO..

JimOlympus E-510 and a bunch of stuff to hang on it...

Comment #1

I know it's my dream to get D300 but I can't afford the price...:(..

Comment #2

You've mentioned the Fuji S series and the Nikon D series, so perhaps you've got a Nikon F-mount body and lens collection already?..

Comment #3

You've mentioned the Fuji S series and the Nikon D series, so perhaps you've got a >Nikon F-mount body and lens collection already?.

Actually I got no SLR lens, I just got a Canon bridge cam(S2IS), so I just want the best with all in my pocket.....

Comment #4

I am curious, this is the 14th post within the past week in various forums asking the same question. Are you not getting good advice from anyone at all?.

You have been in the pro forum, various brand forums now this one.Are you doing this as a hobby, are you intending to sell your photos?.

You need to factor in lenses as well. Maybe if you have never used an SLR before or have much experience, I suggest an entry level DSLR such as the Nikon D40x or D60 or the Canon 450D. Start with the kit lenses to get a feel and experiment, add glass later which is a long term investment, you can always upgrade the bodies later on..

If your doing night photography you need a tripod or at best a fast lens..

Provide people with more idea of your budget. It seems your down to the Canon or Nikon. Both are comparable and offer great entry level kits. If your going to look at the Canon 40D or Nikon D200 you need to look at serious glass to use them at their full potential. So you really need to let people know you budget so they can offer appropriate advice..

You say you want urgent advice on the other posts, but it seems for the past week you have just been posting on here, 14 times this week...what is so urgent you need to get this DSLR, can't be too urgent if you are posting on here so much..

What's the urgency?.

Dave.

Nikon D3Nikon 24-70 f/2.8..

Comment #5

I am curious, this is the 14th post within the past week in various forums asking the same question. Are you not getting good advice from anyone at all?.

You have been in the pro forum, various brand forums now this one.Are you doing this as a hobby, are you intending to sell your photos?.

You need to factor in lenses as well. Maybe if you have never used an SLR before or have much experience, I suggest an entry level DSLR such as the Nikon D40x or D60 or the Canon 450D. Start with the kit lenses to get a feel and experiment, add glass later which is a long term investment, you can always upgrade the bodies later on..

If your doing night photography you need a tripod or at best a fast lens..

Provide people with more idea of your budget. It seems your down to the Canon or Nikon. Both are comparable and offer great entry level kits. If your going to look at the Canon 40D or Nikon D200 you need to look at serious glass to use them at their full potential. So you really need to let people know you budget so they can offer appropriate advice..

You say you want urgent advice on the other posts, but it seems for the past week you have just been posting on here, 14 times this week...what is so urgent you need to get this DSLR, can't be too urgent if you are posting on here so much..

What's the urgency?.

I know it's kinda odd but as you mentoined i've got no good advice... yeah I was in hurry and i'm now but i'm a "hard to choose" person, but I decide, today i'm gonna get my 40D today but i'm still confused about what lens suite my needs ...anyway i'm sorry about disturbing you and others in this forum.i just wanted a real advice(like what you said)....

Tnx for your help.....

Comment #6

Ok if you have a 40D body I suggest the 17-40 L lens. Its a pro quality lens, is the cheapest of the L series pro line and is a great wide angle, it doesn't give you much reach. This is what you need for landscape or even the Canon 10-22, wider angle and a great lens..

Maybe just start off with the kit lens and then go from there. Remember it's a cropped sensor, the L series lenses are designed for full frame bodies, though they are still great on cropped sensor bodies such as the 40D..

If you want to shoot nature and wildlife you need something with a lot of reach, around 300 to 400mm. The L series of these lenses will set you back many thousands..

Again this is why I suggested you tell people your budget, it's hard for people to suggest gear with no idea what your willing to spend..

Now you have the 40D let us know your lens budget and main type of photography and we can go from there..

Dave.

David L Photography..

Comment #7

Now you have the 40D let us know your lens budget and main type of photography and we can go from there..

Dear dave my budge for lens is about 500-700$ , I search thehttp://www.slrgear.com but it's kinda too pro and just gave me amount of info, what you think I should get? I want all in one( if possible) because I don't think I can afford another lens at least in a year or two... as I mentioned I work on architectural and intrior design photography (not too serious, I dont want too spend all my money for a lens that just suite for this purpose, as you said i'm a nature-wildlife-night photographer)..

Comment #8

There's no one lens in your budget that is good for all of that.... in fact there's really no one lens at all that's good for ALL of that, especially when combined with interior shots..

For wildlife you need at least 300-400 mm....

Most lenses that do that range well will be too long for other things like interior design..

You will also need a good tripod figure $150-200 for that..

For interior you need ultra wide angle - like the Canon 10-22 - $700.

For nature something like the 24-105 F4L - $1000 - or the more limited 28-105 for about $200 - a good lens for the price. Somewhere in between is the 28-135 IS..

For wildlife, you'd want at the minimum something like the 70-300 IS ($600 and not to be confused with the 75-300 which is not a good lens). More ideal would be the 100-400 L ($1400), or the 300 F4L IS ($1200) or the 400 F5.6 L ($1100)..

Now you have the 40D let us know your lens budget and main type of photography and we can go from there..

Dear dave my budge for lens is about 500-700$ , I search thehttp://www.slrgear.com but it's kinda too pro and just gave me amount ofinfo, what you think I should get? I want all in one( if possible)because I don't think I can afford another lens at least in a year ortwo... as I mentioned I work on architectural and intrior designphotography (not too serious, I dont want too spend all my money fora lens that just suite for this purpose, as you said i'm anature-wildlife-night photographer).

Some cool cats that can use your helphttp://www.wildlife-sanctuary.org.

Even if you can't donate, please help spread the word...

Comment #9

Pretty much what the previous poster said..

Most lenses that cover a wide focal range, like an 18-250 is great for things like travelling etc. but for specific shoots like architecture, wildlife and industrial as you have mentioned, you really need lenses specific for those purposes. Otherwise you are compromising image quality..

You may of been better of picking up a cheaper body like a canon 400D, spending a bit more on say 2 lenses, covering the wise and telephoto range. Then as you progress upgrade the body..

The 40D may have better build quality and some extra features, but for a beginner DSLR user it may be overwhelming, as it's designed for people between beginner and pro, that's why it's referred to as a prosumer camera..

Thats not to say you can't handle it and it will be a great camera for years to come, but you seem to have jumped in with the focus on the body and nothing else..

If your budget is around $600 to $700 your probably needing to stick to one lens, like the Canon 24-105L. Pro grade, may be slightly above budget but well worth it, gives an ok wide angle and good reach considering the crop factor. Superb IQ..

I too would invest in a good tripod, particularly for wildlife, maybe a remote also..

A better body will not produce better photos, it may give you more options for creativity, but the photographer is what makes a good photograph and the lens will give you the excellent IQ, but the body is merely a tool. Until you master it you will not be using it to it's full potential..

Dave.

David L Photography..

Comment #10

Grab a >$600 d40 or e510 2 lens kit and be done with it until you learn more of what YOU need as opposed to what people are telling you you need. either will be a great place to start, learn and then move to what YOU realize and learn YOU need...

Comment #11

I have both and it's a tough callwant to switch to just one but the problem is that they both have some thing the other lacks. My nikon d70 17-70 stock lens takes sharper and more realistic shots than my 30d canon with 24-105 L glass. my canon flash inside is tons better for inside,less blast better coverags. my nikon 80-200 2.8 smokes my canon 70-200 2.8 L outside my nikon gives more realistic color than my canon. I cant greens to look real. monitor is calabrated canon has less noise but it's much newer and higher mp.

For me it's canon inside and nikon outside. may be that cameras and lenses vary in qualitynikon gets more keepers, but the canon shots that the camera gets right are spot on for inside shots ,say sports car show ,canon. birds and wildlife nikon all the way.

The d300 sounds lika a good bet, but they did switch to cmos like the canons usecould be that I just like the look of ccd better.more noise ,better detail.stevehttp://www.pbase.com/slathem/root..

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