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Exposure problem?
Something's gone wrong with my Fujifilm f420. Last year, while it was still under guarantee, the picture on the screen went all fuzzy. I had it fixed. They changed some part and it seemed to work OK but I was only testing it by taking photos indoors..

Now, I find that the photos taken outside are no good. I don't know the precise technical term for this but the outdoor photos are too bright - is this what you call "overexposed"?.

I think perhaps the repair guys changed one of the settings but I'm not sure what to do. The photos that I take indoors are A-OK though..

Could someone please help?..

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Xyz1 wrote:.

Something's gone wrong with my Fujifilm f420. Last year, while itwas still under guarantee, the picture on the screen went all fuzzy.I had it fixed. They changed some part and it seemed to work OK butI was only testing it by taking photos indoors..

Now, I find that the photos taken outside are no good. I don't knowthe precise technical term for this but the outdoor photos are toobright - is this what you call "overexposed"?.

I think perhaps the repair guys changed one of the settings but I'mnot sure what to do. The photos that I take indoors are A-OK though..

Could someone please help?.

You'll get more help if you post examples of the problem. Post an indoor pic that is OK and an outdoor pic that shows the problem. Also, post the EXIF (camera settings) if possible...

Comment #1

I understand why you posted this on the Beginners Forum but I think you might get better answers on the Fuji DSLR talk forum..

Dave_s93 seems willing to help though, and he has asked for info that will be helpful..

FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind...

Comment #2

Re: settings. I'll need to read the manual first because I have a little trouble finding these. I'll get back to you on this..

Photos: OK, I have some URLs belowhttp://www.esnips.com/.../doc/275034bb-3cb3-408d-8f3a-0d0fa95225ab/DSCF0096http://www.esnips.com/.../doc/0d91f26a-dfbe-4028-9df9-b8d0bb05b46d/DSCF0099..

Comment #3

Oh shucks; those URLs don't work. Sorry about this. I'm not au fait with these sites. Give me some time to get it working please. Please bear with me...

Comment #4

I think I've sorted it out now. I've got an indoors photo and another taken outside at:.

Http://www.esnips.com/...-b9b9-45d0-afa1-00dd258f16b5/?v=860527&source=ws..

Comment #5

Right, my settings are as follows:.

Quality: 1M 512 frames (maybe I should choose 6M?)ISO: AutoFinePix Colour: F-StandardSelf timer: OffCont(?): OffShooting mode: AutoOption: LCD.

I am still trying to find the EV and white balance. Please bear with me, this might take some time as the manual is not very clear how to get to these...

Comment #6

OK, I think I know why I can't find the EV and white balance. These are only available in manual mode and I shoot in auto mode...

Comment #7

For your photo DSCF0096.jpg the parameters are ISO160, f/5 and 1/800 s so it should have been a well exposed outdoor photo..

It seems that your camera is stuck with a wide open aperture so even if it says f/5it's still f/2.8 or something (i.e. about +1.7 stops overexposure).Another possibility would be the sensor.VictorBucuresti, Romaniahttp://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/victor_petcu/http://picasaweb.google.com/teodor.nitica/..

Comment #8

Fuji F420 is an old P&S (released in 2003).VictorBucuresti, Romaniahttp://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/victor_petcu/http://picasaweb.google.com/teodor.nitica/..

Comment #9

Thanks Victor. Is there any way I can sort this myself as the camera is now out of guarantee and it's not worth repairing. Perhaps I should shoot in manual mode? Would that allow me to adjust the size of the aperture? Is that what the EV setting is for?.

If this is not something I can adjust myself, then I guess this camera is only good for night time and indoor photos...

Comment #10

I bought it 4 years ago and only use it once a year when we go on holiday in the summer. The retailer persuaded me to buy an extended guarantee and that came in useful last year when the screen went kaput. I didn't realise there was another fault as well as I only tested it indoors when I got it back..

It's not worth paying for repairs as there are some great deals on cameras in the shops right now...

Comment #11

Maybe the only solution is to use aperture priority mode and keep the aperture at wide open. See if it solves the problem. I don't know if the camera has this mode..

Exposure compensation is to shift the exposure towards bright or dark if the camera meter is fooled. See more here: http://www.photoxels.com/tutorial-exposure-compensation.html.

It's quite an obsolete camera and fixing it would be crazy. You can get a decent new Fuji for very low price though.VictorBucuresti, Romaniahttp://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/victor_petcu/http://picasaweb.google.com/teodor.nitica/..

Comment #12

No, I don't think this camera has an aperture priority mode (whatever that is)..

There is a photography mode which has these choices:ManualAutoPortraitSceneSportNight.

I only ever use Auto..

I've just popped out and took a photo using "Scene" mode. It's not as bright now outside as when I took the earlier photo DSCF0096 but the photo looks much better. Perhaps I should adjust the EV manually but I can't really test now in the twilight..

Thanks for your help...

Comment #13

I've uploaded the "Scene" mode photo which is available in the link I gave earlier. This is DSCF 0102 but perhaps this is because it is getting dim outside...

Comment #14

The aperture is f/2.8 and the scene is not very well metered but the subject is OK. Your lens are defective so the only available aperture is f/2.8..

The Manual mode is just a Programmed Auto so the only possibility is to use exposure compensation at -2 EV or -1.7EV.VictorBucuresti, Romaniahttp://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/victor_petcu/http://picasaweb.google.com/teodor.nitica/..

Comment #15

OK. Advice noted and much appreciated. I shall play around with the EV setting tomorrow..

So it's my lens that is defective now. That's rather disappointing. I thought Japanese goods were high quality and reliable. They replaced a component last year because the screen went funny - the image was smeared across the screen and the colours were wrong..

Thanks Victor and good night...

Comment #16

Baloo_buc wrote:.

For your photo DSCF0096.jpg the parameters are ISO160, f/5 and 1/800s so it should have been a well exposed outdoor photo.It seems that your camera is stuck with a wide open aperture so evenif it says f/5it's still f/2.8 or something (i.e. about +1.7 stops overexposure).Another possibility would be the sensor..

I agree with baloo_buc, it appears to be a stuck aperture. Since indoor pics are almost always low light, the camera always tries to take it at max aperture. When you are outdoors and have good light, the camera will try to stop down to get more DoF. It appears that the camera is not able to stop down the aperture, hence the overexposure...

Comment #17

Now that we have daylight again, I've taken another set of photos outdoors. I've added to my album, photos taken using:.

1) Manual mode with +0.9EV2) Manual mode with +1.5EV3) Manual mode with +1.2EV4) Scene mode which has no EV adjustment option.

Http://www.esnips.com/...-b9b9-45d0-afa1-00dd258f16b5/?v=860527&source=ws.

It would appear that the best outdoors photos come with the "Scene" mode. It's the best I can do and I guess I can always edit the results with Picasa...

Comment #18

If your camera overexposes why keep overexposing with exposure compensation. The only option I see if you want to torture yourself with this defective camera is to use the portrait scene mode that tries to have the largest aperture in order to have the background blur.You cannot PP overexposure VictorBucuresti, Romaniahttp://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/victor_petcu/http://picasaweb.google.com/teodor.nitica/..

Comment #19

Ah! I am just going to use this POS for indoors or night photos. My husband has bought himself a digital camera recently (having upgraded from one of those 35mm cameras). He can do all the outdoors photos; in fact he can take all the photos as far as I am concerned while we keep this as a back up..

I am disappointed that I did not spot this defect last year while the camera was still under warranty. But I had no chance since the screen was defective. I only sent it off for repairs within a week of expiry of the extended guarantee. C'est la vie.....

Is this the norm? That is to say, do digital cameras give up the ghost 3 years from purchase? I hardy ever used this camera. They are as bad as Smart cars where the engines turn turtle and die when the warranty ends after 3 years. It's a Japanese camera for crying out loud!.

Are there any particular manufacturers that can knock out RELIABLE cameras? Obviously Fuji isn't one of them. My old 35mm lasted for 2 or 3 decades, no problem. It seems to me that all this new technology has built-in obsolescence. It's just like American cars which were designed to only last x number of years before falling apart so the owner has to purchase a new model...

Comment #20

If you are looking at the series of cameras the companies release you will see that in 4 years there are 20-50 cameras released. If the cameras will last 100 years who will buy the new ones?.

The life expectancy of a digital camera is 3-4 years because afterward they become obsolete. The dSLR have more life but still it's less than old film cameras that have a 20 years life expectancy.VictorBucuresti, Romaniahttp://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/victor_petcu/http://picasaweb.google.com/teodor.nitica/..

Comment #21

Hi,.

The problem could be that you only use it once a year and so the rest of the time it is stored and the oil can migrate, dry out and glue up the works. (Apertures being mechanical and very delicate - shall we say.).

Also I wondered why the manual WB and the EV adjustment and the Auto ISO (all from the EXIF)..

But it also worked in the scene mode. So I wondered if you could get it working by taking a lot of pictures in all the modes. Something makes it work OK from time to time and it may just need freeing by being used..

As for how long they last, in August I'll be ten years from my first digital purchase: I gave it to a friend and he gave it to his son and the thing is still in use and very basic and plastic by today's standards. I can say similar things about other elderly digital cameras. It seems wearing them out is not a problem but becoming bored with them as they are not the latest toy....

Regards, David..

Comment #22

Thanks for the tip, David. I'll try and wear it out and see if I can free the aperture. I didn't know digital cameras are like a car - you can't just leave a car in the garage and bring it out once a year..

This is a great BB for camera advice. Isn't the internet just wonderful?..

Comment #23

"If the cameras will last 100 years, who will buy a new one".

Quite. It's not just cameras. Many things these days just do not last the way they used to. To keep the costs down, they make things to a lower quality. But it seems such a waste of finite resources..

Thank you for all your help Victor..

Best wishes.

Sophie..

Comment #24

Xyz1 wrote:.

This is a great BB for camera advice. Isn't the internet justwonderful?.

Yes. But only if you USE it, eh? Regards,Baz..

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