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Entry Level DSLR/Best Out of Camera Images?
Which entry level DSLR do you believe gives the best out of the camera images? I don't want to do tons of post processing. Are they all about the same? I currently have the K10D and, while I'm told it's a marvelous camera, I think the photos are too soft even when after I adjust the sharpness setting..

Thank you,Karen..

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Karenlh wrote:.

Which entry level DSLR do you believe gives the best out of thecamera images? I don't want to do tons of post processing. Are theyall about the same? I currently have the K10D and, while I'm toldit's a marvelous camera, I think the photos are too soft even whenafter I adjust the sharpness setting..

Thank you,Karen.

This is a known issue with the K10D which was aimed at more advanced enthusiasts who are likely to shoot RAW; the jpeg output has regularly been criticised as being rather soft. You can of course apply additional sharpening in Photoshop..

The Nikon D40 might suit you - aimed at people who want the more advanced features of a DSLR but, having possibly moved up from a bridge or compact camera, are also used to good 'out of the camera' pictures which need minimal tweaking, once you have the controls set to your taste..

Best wishesMike..

Comment #1

I second the Nikon D40, great jpeg engine..

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Take care Dwayne Oakes..

Comment #2

Thank you both for the info on the Nikon D40. How does it do in low light? And, do you think the OOC images would be better than from a Canon Xsi?.

Thanks again,Karen..

Comment #3

Dear Karen,.

I would strongly encourage you to search the Pentax forum for many threads about this matter (and in camera settings to solve em). Standard the out of camera images tend to be softish, but using the correct camera settings, this problem can be easily solved without selling an otherwise fine camera..

Karenlh wrote:.

Which entry level DSLR do you believe gives the best out of thecamera images? I don't want to do tons of post processing. Are theyall about the same? I currently have the K10D and, while I'm toldit's a marvelous camera, I think the photos are too soft even whenafter I adjust the sharpness setting..

Thank you,Karen..

Comment #4

Yes, I understand. I do worry about trading in a nice camera for one of lesser quality (the camera store salesman suggested I trade my K10D for a K200D). However, if I don't use this camera, it's not doing me much good either..

I upgraded to the K10D from the *ist DL. The K10D performs better in low light (at least for my needs), but other than that, I don't see any improvement in image quality. And, frankly, I miss the light weight of the *ist DL..

I'm really torn as to what to do..

Karen..

Comment #5

Karen, either the D40 or D60 will do you will. Good package deals on the D60 now with both VR lenses and it does have some newer features over the D40. Both will take excellent pictures! .

Karenlh wrote:.

Yes, I understand. I do worry about trading in a nice camera for oneof lesser quality (the camera store salesman suggested I trade myK10D for a K200D). However, if I don't use this camera, it's notdoing me much good either..

I upgraded to the K10D from the *ist DL. The K10D performs better inlow light (at least for my needs), but other than that, I don't seeany improvement in image quality. And, frankly, I miss the lightweight of the *ist DL..

I'm really torn as to what to do..

Karen.

Nikon D60 18-55vr & 55-200vrSB400Casio Z750..

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Karenlh wrote:.

Yes, I understand. I do worry about trading in a nice camera for oneof lesser quality (the camera store salesman suggested I trade myK10D for a K200D). However, if I don't use this camera, it's notdoing me much good either..

I upgraded to the K10D from the *ist DL. The K10D performs better inlow light (at least for my needs), but other than that, I don't seeany improvement in image quality. And, frankly, I miss the lightweight of the *ist DL..

I'm really torn as to what to do..

Karen.

Hi.

Since you already use Pentax, the K100d or k100d super are great jpeg cameras. At higher isos it is probably the best entry level camera for low light...at lower ones maybe the Nikon D40..

They use the same sensor but there are a lot of nice lenses to use in low light for the pentax and they will all be stabilized. I often use jpegs at 3200 and 1600 iso with fast lenses at slow shutter speeds...it is a great choice...but then so would a D60, or d40 or for a little more, a Canon 450 (if you can test the camera you are buying for focus problems first)..

Neil..

Comment #7

Checkhttp://www.dcresource.com review of K10D. He suggests some settings that yield out of box nice image.You have one of the top models. Do not change for anything less..

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Karenlh wrote:.

Yes, I understand. I do worry about trading in a nice camera for oneof lesser quality (the camera store salesman suggested I trade myK10D for a K200D). However, if I don't use this camera, it's notdoing me much good either..

Sounds like this might be your best alternitive. Check cameralabs review of the K200d. Very sharp. Plus it's the least expensive weather sealed camera on the market..

I upgraded to the K10D from the *ist DL. The K10D performs better inlow light (at least for my needs), but other than that, I don't seeany improvement in image quality. And, frankly, I miss the lightweight of the *ist DL..

I'm really torn as to what to do..

Karen.

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Comment #9

Thank you all for your advice. The camera store offered $425 to trade in my K10D. I hate to let it go for that so I guess I'll try to use it a little while longer..

Thanks again,.

Karen..

Comment #10

Thank you for the link. I did go look at that and will try some of the suggestions. I thought I had made those changes before, but perhaps someone changed my settings..

Karen..

Comment #11

Best out of camera ( default settings) almost always looks to be from canon in the reviews I have seen on this site. If you don't mind making a few adjustments in camera or in Post than alomst any DSLR will do. Really can't go wronge these days with any of the new camera models.Sincerely.

Ron J..

Comment #12

What are you using for lenses? Also, the settings do make a difference. My DS is "famous" for soft JPEG's, at least according to Phil. Mine are not, since getting away from the defaults and not using the kit lens. Seek some advice in the Pentax forum. They can help you with getting things right...

Comment #13

Have you tested your lens for focus issues? It may not be the K10D body that is at fault for creating soft images.http://focustestchart.com/chart.html..

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Karenlh wrote:.

Thank you both for the info on the Nikon D40. How does it do in lowlight? And, do you think the OOC images would be better than from aCanon Xsi?.

Karen, if you'll excuse me for being blunt, that's a dumb question (but a common one)..

It's a bit like the dumb question I asked my father-in-law: "Which truck is better, Chevy or Ford." As he was a lifelong auto mechanic, he knew the answer: "There is not $25 difference in them...Ford and GM make sure that you have a difficult time picking one...otherwise, one or the other would be gone by now!".

The same is true of Nikon and Canon..

And your question is a bit like someone asking whether Chevy or Ford has the most legroom for the driver! After all, the seat IS adjustable. If you were to say that you don't like to make adjustments and simply wanted to know which model has the "best" default seat adjustment from the factory, well then I'm too shocked to know what to say!.

Your K10D is a bit like a Peugeot...queer, but not made in France, so there is no excuse!  It's CLEARLY not a beginner model...it's intended for people who know how (and why) PP is necessary...photographers who may not like to do PP, but who know they have to with cameras like the K10D..

And your question is comparing a 2006, $600, 6MP model with a 2008, $900, 12MP model! And today, the D40 price is down to about $450!.

And your question is likely to get the C vs N debate going again... .

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