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After decades of film photography, I have decided that the time has come to enter the world of digital imaging. I bought a Canon A 640/Selphy 720 kit from Costco for $279 which seemed like a good price. I have no problems with the 4x6" limitation of the Selphy but I am wondering about the print quality of the dye-sub process. Can I expect the same quality photographs that I might get from a commercial printing process? I have not unpacked the box yet and might return the kit pending the opinions of those familiar with dye-sub printers. I would like my transition from film to digital to be as smooth as possible even if it means spending a bit more for equipment. Thanks, Jake...

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If you are willing to do some post=processing on your computer, and if that Costco store is anywhere convenient, you might think about just buying prints from Costco..

Depending on where you live, a 4x6 from Costco is probably about 15 cents, and I don't think you can come close to that with a dye-sub printer..

Check with Costco regarding photo paper in it's lab; where I am, it's Fuji Crystal Archive, which ios as good as paper gets, in a choice of matt or gloss..

You can process you pictures at home (color, density, cropping, etc.) and send the files by internet to Costco. In Toronto, where I am, prints are available for pickup in a couple of hours, usually, and so foar, always by noon the next day..

As for dye-sub generally once you get your computer set up to match the printer, you get excellent prints and they are among the longer-lasting types of digital prints. Highly unlikely they'll fade for years..

So, if money matters, and if the store is close enough, Costco beats Canon. If cost does not matter, or the store is far away, or if a couple of hours makes a difference, or if you only are going to print a few shots, the Canon dye-sub is the better bet..

BAK..

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Or....

You can also manipulate your files at home, (color, density, cropping, etc.) and then put the images on a memory card or thumb drive, take them to Costco, load them nto the desk top computer terminal there, and get prints within an hour, as long as you don't arrive too close to closing time. Spend the hour buying more stuff, or having lunch in the snack bar..

As for the internet service you have a choice of letting Costco alter you images for you, or clicking on a box and thus having no changes made to your shots, allowing your own color settings, etc. to be used..

BAK..

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Jake Myers wrote:.

After decades of film photography, I have decided that the time hascome to enter the world of digital imaging. I bought a Canon A640/Selphy 720 kit from Costco for $279 which seemed like a goodprice. I have no problems with the 4x6" limitation of the Selphy butI am wondering about the print quality of the dye-sub process. Can Iexpect the same quality photographs that I might get from acommercial printing process? I have not unpacked the box yet andmight return the kit pending the opinions of those familiar withdye-sub printers. I would like my transition from film to digital tobe as smooth as possible even if it means spending a bit more forequipment. Thanks, Jake..

Probably better than most commercial printers. But, consumables for dye-subs are expensive. Maybe better with an inkjet like the Canon iP4500. That takes individual color cartridges and offers great output...

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As for dye-sub generally once you get your computer set up tomatch the printer, you get excellent prints and they are among thelonger-lasting types of digital prints. Highly unlikely they'll fadefor years..

I don't think that this is true. Look at the ratings for 4x6 dyesubs in this Wilhelm report: http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ist/WIR_IST_2007_03_HW.pdf.

They are mostly in the range 5-10 years which is much shorter than the ratings for inkjets..

I think that the Kodak and Olympus P-4xx larger dye subs have much better print lives, but there have been complaints in the past on the Printers and Printing forum about fading with small dye subs..

Chris R..

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You can get at least 1400 4x6 prints from Walgreens (or similar) - actual photo prints, not inkjet or dyesub..

Wheras the $279 spent on a printer gets you... nothing... you still need paper, ink... more ink... more paper... more ink....

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Sometimes Selphy prints actually look better than the chemical machine ones....

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Jake Myers wrote:.

After decades of film photography, I have decided that the time hascome to enter the world of digital imaging. Can Iexpect the same quality photographs that I might get from acommercial printing process?.

Dear Jake,.

Similar background in that I came from film (all commercially processed) to digicam: what to do about prints?.

If you want to stay "commercial", I have found the Kodak and the Fuji kiosks both do a good job (though I prefer the "colours" I get from Kodak)..

You have two options at either:.

A) Download your memory card into their system and come back for your prints in an hour, or later. Benefit: cheap price (15 to 30cents Auustralian per print, depending on the individual outlet) This system uses a digitalized "wet" process and the prints, essentially, are what you would have got had you given them an exposed roll of film to print..

B) Download your memory card into their system and follow the prompts. Benefit: "instant" prints, but at 50 to 60 cents (Aust) per print, depending on the outlet. These prints are done using a dye sublimation process then and there. The image quality is superb! The process results in a "laminated"-like product that is "waterproof" and almost impossible to tear up by hand. Dirty marks (as per children's grubby fingers) would just wipe off with a damp sponge. Although the exact longevity is not specified, it is very substantial.

Add-ons are the option of a "personalized" 12-month calendar, personalized Christmas/Greeting cards with text, and wallet sized prints. This product is of excellent quality and very cost effective..

Personally, I wouldn't even consider owning my own printer: it just isn't cost effective with these options around..

They will, also copy your memory cards to ROM-CDs with an index print, if requested. (Extra charge for either)..

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