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Hi guys,.

New to this site and after some info on 2 slrs (mainly for surf photography) ive been researching.im thinking of getting either thesony alpha a100 with the tamron 18-200 mm lenses ornikon d40x with the nikon 18-55/55-200 VR lenses.what camera would suit me better for surf and sports photography.thanks..

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Sykesy wrote:.

Im thinking of getting either thesony alpha a100 with the tamron 18-200 mm lenses ornikon d40x with the nikon 18-55/55-200 VR lenses.what camera would suit me better for surf and sports photography..

I assume you mean surf photography from the beach and not from the water? Based on my very limited experience, 200 mm is not long enough, you need 300 at least, if not 400..

But before suggesting anything - what are the other sports you want to shoot?..

Comment #1

Any dSLR will do it (note the Sony anti-shake will do nothing for subject motion), the lens is the important thing..

Not sure if 200mm is enough reach for surfing, but speed (i.e. the max wide aperture) is more important for sport, though I'm assuming the light will generally be good. I'm assuming you may need faster than 1/500th sec to freeze the motion so getting enough light into the camera is the issue..

Don't know the Tamron but I think the 55-200VR is only f/5.6 at the long end - that's too small IMHO. The Nikon 70-200VR with the constant f/2.8 aperture would be better but much more expensive..

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Comment #2

Just an off the cuff observation.But 200mm just isn't enough reach for surfing photos..

The Oly 4/3rds system advantage is in telephoto shots because of the 2X crop factor. An E510 (or E-3 if you can afford it) with Zuiko 50-200mm ( 35 equiv 100-400) and EC1.4 teleconverter gets you out to a 35 equiv of 560mm which is at least reasonable. If money is not a real issue then the Zuiko 300mm prime (35 equiv 600mm) is the go to lensA member of the rabble in good standing..

Comment #3

But go for the new e-3 camera. it's splash proof and dustproof [as are the upper 2 grades of oly lenses]..

The beach is a harsh environment...

Comment #4

I echo the other repliers in that 200mm even with a 1.5crop factor will not be enough mm. I suggest you think about a good tripod/monopod and get the sigma 50-500mm lens, otherwise known as the bigma. on a 1.5crop factor camera the 500mm becomes 750mm which should be enough..

The bigma is not as super expensive as a true 400-500-600mm lens, but there are a LOT of satisfied users, including me. a true 400-600 telephoto could run as high as near $10000. the bigma is $800-900..

Any of the entry level dslrs will do the job. simply buy based on features cost ergonomics and your own likes/dislikes...

Comment #5

Thanks guys for tht,.

Im not really wanting to be able to zoom right up into the surfers face, I'm just after something that will take a decent shot of the wave. alot of the waves I surf are quite close to shore anyway.wat lnses would you guys reccomend with a budget of $600.im just gettin into photography and dont want to go over board with it.thanks for your replies. keep em comin..

Comment #6

If you realy want to get in to surf photography you are looking at $4000 AU for a kit that in my opinion will get a good photo..

I use and recomend a d200 with the sigma 50-500 and have had no malfuncions at all..

But if you just want to try your hand at surf photography you can't go past the w30 with a set of surf fins that will bring you in well under ypur $600 buget.

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Comment #7

I use a Sony Alpha100 with a Sigma 50-500 handheld - which the sony anti shake system seems to cope with brilliantly..

The shots are sharp, detailed and clear. I was going to use a tripod, but I didn't need to. The setup is heavy though, so at the next champs I may use a monopod, to take the weight of my arms..

400mm on a 1.5 crop camera may be enough reach and will probably be a lot lighter!.

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Comment #8

For an all around, moderately-priced system, a body with in-body stabilization and a Bigma would probably be the better way to go..

Not sure of where you're located and where the breaks are but, unless you're planning on being in the water, shooting from the shore will require the longest reach you can get..

I've only had a couple of opportunities for shooting at the beach but I'm happy with my Bigma/Monopod results and know that it is capable for that circumstance...W/Bigma/D50/Kenko 1.4X TC - note surfers near pier....

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Max reach w/ TC.

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From beach in late afternoon with marine layer moving in... at 370mm w/TC for ~775mm EQ at f/10....

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I should also mention that all of the above were with AF, not manual focus...Telecorder (Dave)FZee30+RD-S+OlyTC1.7XDee50+Nikon 35mm F2.0D-AF+Nikkor18-70DX+Tam70-300L+BIGMA 50-500 EX HSMMy Image Galleries.

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Sykesy wrote:.

Thanks guys for tht,im not really wanting to be able to zoom right up into the surfersface, I'm just after something that will take a decent shot of thewave. alot of the waves I surf are quite close to shore anyway.wat lnses would you guys reccomend with a budget of $600..

Honestly if your budget for a lens is $600 you might as well forget surf photography - at least forget about doing it halfway decent. Even with the longest lenses you're not going to be zooming in on their faces as evidenced from the post by Telecorder...

Comment #10

Sony A100 setup with ebayed Sigma 400mm f/5.6 can do some decent shots..

You need to get much more funds for higher class lenses..

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Comment #11

Consider the Nikon 70-300VR. That's Nikon's best 70-300 and the only one that will autofocus on a D40x. Not a spectacular performer in the 200-300 range, but no lens in your price range is..

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IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

Sykesy wrote:.

Thanks guys for tht,im not really wanting to be able to zoom right up into the surfersface, I'm just after something that will take a decent shot of thewave. alot of the waves I surf are quite close to shore anyway.wat lnses would you guys reccomend with a budget of $600..

Honestly if your budget for a lens is $600 you might as well forgetsurf photography - at least forget about doing it halfway decent.Even with the longest lenses you're not going to be zooming in ontheir faces as evidenced from the post by Telecorder..

FWIW, a bit of patience and luck, one can get a used Bigma for ~$600; I know, I got mine last summer for $535....

But, you're right... I had my 1.4X TC on and was at an effective 775mm EQ reach for the above full sized images - the break wasn't that far off of the beach.

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Comment #13

Thanks guys,.

If 200 aint enoughill prob look at the sony a100 with the 18-70 and 75-300 mm lenses. does anyone have any experience with these lenses?cheers..

Comment #14

300 is still going to be short. And if it's consumer grade, forget about it being all that great. Honestly the best lens that isn't a budget breaker is the Canon 400 F5.6 L - very sharp - much sharper than any zoom - and will start getting you into the range you need (but is still too short IMO)..

Put it in perspective. This shot was taken at 420mm on a 1.6 crop camera with professional grade lens. This is an uncropped image. The photographers in the background are closer to me than you will get to somebody riding a wave..

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Sykesy wrote:.

Thanks guys,if 200 aint enoughill prob look at the sony a100 with the 18-70 and75-300 mm lenses. does anyone have any experience with these lenses?cheers.

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Comment #15

You're still talking 1bout 100 yards at least..

If you're looking for the most "effective" range for cheap, then an Oly E510 with the "new" or at least new to Oly mount 70-300..

It gives an effective focal length of 600mm, similar to what was mentioned with the 400/5.6 on a Canon crop camera..

There are some images taken with it on the Oly SLR forum..

I think it's a rebadged Sigma but since Oly takes a smaller "crop" out of the middle the lens seems to perform better on the Oly than it does on APS..

Gene..

Comment #16

I think you can take decent surf pictures with almost any lens. If you are printing large and want professional close ups you will need to spend a lot of money. If you want smaller prints and photos to post online, you can use a 300mm lens and crop. You may also try a super-zoom..

Having said that, I want a 500mm to get closer!.

Here are some examples using a DSLR with 1.5 crop factor at 200mm (1st example), and 300mm (2nd). Both lenses have max aperture of f/5.6..

This one is far from the beach at 200mm:.

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This one is a bit closer with the 300mm prime..

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Comment #17

The surfer, like in other sports..

Obviously with surfing the environment an essential part of the shot so in most cases it shoud or could be included..

Gene..

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2chicos wrote:.

I think you can take decent surf pictures with almost any lens. Ifyou are printing large and want professional close ups you will needto spend a lot of money. If you want smaller prints and photos topost online, you can use a 300mm lens and crop. You may also try asuper-zoom..

Having said that, I want a 500mm to get closer!.

Here are some examples using a DSLR with 1.5 crop factor at 200mm(1st example), and 300mm (2nd). Both lenses have max aperture off/5.6..

This one is far from the beach at 200mm:.

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This one is a bit closer with the 300mm prime..

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Thanks heaps for tht 2chicos thts exactly the type of shots I want to take. the lenses I'm lookin at av a max apurture of f/5.6 so should they be right then?what lenses did you take the shots with?the lenses I'm lookin at are prob the 18-200 or 18-250 tamron.or sony twin kit as I mentioned in my last post..

Would either of the tamrons be suitable if I'm only wanting shots lyk the ones you posted.thnks..

Comment #19

Please consider that I am also a beginner as I've been shooting with my Pentax K-10D for around 6 months.. The first shot was taken with the DA50-200/f5.6 lens which is the standard Pentax tele-zoom. The 2'nd shot (which is at a different surf break), was taken with a Kilfitt 300mm/5.6 lens which I bought for around $110 on ebay. The Kilfitt is around 50 years old, is gorgeous and takes good pictures, but it's fully manual and requires stop-down metering. Focusing manually is difficult for surf shots but I'm getting better at it. These were taken hand-held with the shake-reduction feature enabled.



It's not clear whether your $600 budget is for the entire system, or just lenses. Do you already have a body? You need to think about how you're likely to expand your system in the future. If there's a possibility that you'll be wanting long higher end fast lenses, consider getting a Canon..

I was in a very similar situation as you are and considered the D80/Xti/K10D. After a few months with the Pentax system I've found that I enjoy other forms of photography at least as much as shooting surfing and windsurfing. If you want excellent results for shooting these sports you need expensive gear: good high ISO performance body, high quality long lenses, and a good tripod..

If the $600 budget is for lenses I think you should save for the Bigma. That's what I am doing. For around $130-$175 you can get a 70-300/f5.6 which will probably work better than a super wide zoom like the 18-250mm at the long end. The 18-250 is also half-stop slower. I think Tamron and Sigma both have lenses in this category. You'll get better performance for surf shots and save $450 towards a better lens..

You may also consider starting with a super-zoom. I think you'll get results equivalent to what I posted for a lot less money (especially if you use a tripod). Current versions have a long end of 450-500mm (35mm eq), and as long as the light is good you should get decent results. Once you get some experience you'll know what's limiting you and you can save for the dlsr system that will work best..

Hope this helps..

Chico..

Comment #20

Thanks for all tht info mate,.

I checked the 2 cameras out today (sony a100 and nikon d40x) I'm thinkin of the nikon d40x with a 18-55 and a 70-300 vr. I no it's not perfect for surf photography but it's also for everday shootin. most the time wen I'm down at the coast ill be surfin. it's just to get some good shots before I hit the surf. I dont think ill ever look at the big 400mm+ lenses.thanks guys for all your help..

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