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DSLR and wide-angle lens for beginner estate agent for under $1000 ?
I have moved to France in the hope of starting my on property business. One of the the things I need is a camera to take really good internal (often small rooms in bad light) and external shots of French houses, that I can then post on my website. I am a complete beginner photographer but am willing to put the time in to learn and practise. At this stage, I can't afford to spend any more than 700 ($1000) on the whole thing. I had a look at the Pentax K10D but with the lens on top, it was too expensive. Please help. Thank you...

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Victoria Templeman wrote:.

One of the the things I need is a camera to take reallygood internal (often small rooms in bad light) and external shots ofFrench houses, that I can then post on my website. I am a completebeginner photographer but am willing to put the time in to learn andpractise. At this stage, I can't afford to spend any more than 700($1000) on the whole thing. I had a look at the Pentax K10D but withthe lens on top, it was too expensive. Please help. Thank you..

First, buy a book:.

Http://www.amazon.com/...58?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192813132&sr=8-1.

Second, that's a pretty tight budget. If you buy the cheapest DSLR you can get (K100D, D40, 350D) and a Sigma 10-20mm, that should get you in under $1000. That's OK, the camera is about the least important part here. You'll also need a tripod and lights lots of 'em. They don't have to be really expensive, but it adds up. Read the book to find out what you need, and why..

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Victoria Templeman wrote:.

I have moved to France in the hope of starting my on propertybusiness. One of the the things I need is a camera to take reallygood internal (often small rooms in bad light) and external shots ofFrench houses, that I can then post on my website. I am a completebeginner photographer but am willing to put the time in to learn andpractise. At this stage, I can't afford to spend any more than 700($1000) on the whole thing. I had a look at the Pentax K10D but withthe lens on top, it was too expensive. Please help.



It depends how wide you need to shoot. If 28mm (film equivalent) is wide enough, you are lucky. Just about any dslr and kit lens (plus tripod or minitripod!) will do. If you have a steady hand, you might forget about the tripod later. You might want a flash. Can't go wrong with any system..

On the other hand, if you need really wide images... you are out of luck. It will cost you quite a lot more. A normal (and quite cheap) kit lens will be 18-something, for SUPERwide, you want 10 or 12-something..

Suggestion: go to a brick-and-mortar store and try out cameras. The way you feel them in the hands is also very important. And you can check if the kit lens is wide enough...

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A wide-angle would be Sigma 10-20mm (doesn't matter which camera, as long as it's not FF), but you could also try panorama stitching instead. For examples, have a look at:.

Http://www.ptgui.com/.

Which would probably give you a cheaper way to do it, using any camera..

Http://lordofthelens.smugmug.com/..

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Not a DSLR, but a real estate favorite, is the Kodak V705 or V570 camera with the dual lenses. One lens is a 23mm (equivalent) wide angle, and the camera has a special mode which guides you to take three pictures and merge them in the camera into a 180 degree panorama..

Google those and, if you want either one, find one very fast because they are discontinued. Right now they still barely available new or on the kodak.com website...

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With your budget and subjects, a K100D (super or not doesn't really matter) would be a better choice than the K10D. It has better low-light capabilities than the K10 and a few settings presets that you can use until you become comfortable and understand the concepts of aperture and depth of field and how they coincide. As others have said too, your lens will probably cost as much as the body. Go to a camera store and see how wide a lens you really need. The DA 12-24 may be exactly what you are looking for..

However, you might be best suited with your budget to get a bridge camera (fixed lens slr) that has a wide enough short end for your kind of work...

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Em0314 wrote:.

With your budget and subjects, a K100D (super or not doesn't reallymatter) would be a better choice than the K10D. It has betterlow-light capabilities [...].

For this type of shooting, low-light capabilities are irrelevant. You'll want the camera on a tripod, and you'll want lights. Even if you skip the lights (which is a bad idea), and the room is dim, you can just take a long exposure. Rooms don't move..

However, you might be best suited with your budget to get a bridgecamera (fixed lens slr) that has a wide enough short end for yourkind of work..

A bridge camera isn't an SLR. Most of them don't have much of a wide angle. And you really don't need long focal lengths, so the "superzoom" that most of these sport is useless. I second the recommendation for the two Kodaks, they are some of the few digicams with wide angle..

Seen in a fortune cookie:Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed..

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Thanks for your help. I've never used a forum before - it's great - all this info, and for free!.

I've looked up prices for the suggested DSLR options, and I think it really is going to be too expensive for me (I have to buy from a European site really, and they're even more money here)..

So, do you think the Kodak V705 would do the job OK if I can get hold of one? The Kodak sites here (UK and French) don't seem to stock any, but give you a list of retailers to contact. I've been told that I should have something above 6MP, so wasn't sure about the V570. Does the Kodak work with a tripod, etc? (I don't have a steady hand!)What's FF?Thanks again,Victoria...

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Victoria Templeman wrote:.

I've been told that I should have something above 6MP.

Where are these photos going to be? On the web? That's typically 0.25mp to 0.5mp. On a postcard? That's about 2mp..

Does the Kodak work with a tripod, etc?.

Yes, it works with a tripod. Another to consider is the Kodak P880. Goes almost as wide (24mm equivalent) and has a hotshoe for external flash. It's also long discontinud, so the only place you'll find it is used (ebay)..

What's FF?.

An endless dream for a few folks on these message boards who won't pony up $2300 for a Canon 5D. It's a camera with a sensor the same size as 35mm film. "FF" stands for "Full Frame", which is pretty confusing because it doesn't tell you full frame of what..

For the suggested lens, it means you can use the lens on most DSLRs, which typically have sensors that are a little smaller than 24x16mm, so-called APS-C..

Thanks again,.

You're welcome..

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So why haven't Kodak updated these cameras or released a new model? Seems crazy...

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Victoria Templeman wrote:.

So why haven't Kodak updated these cameras or released a new model?.

They have! But none of the newer models go nearly as wide as the discontinued models. Kodak learned the hard way that long zoom sells, even though wide angles are more useful for many things most folks buy cameras for..

Seems crazy..

Sure is, but don't blame Kodak. At least they tried..

On most digicams the widest is around 36mm (in 35mm equivalent). That gives you a horizontal view of 51 degrees..

On most DSLRs, the kit lens gives you about 28mm (again, 35mm equivalent). That's 65 degrees..

The Kodaks mentioned give you 70 to 73 degrees..

A 10mm lens on a DSLR gives you almost 100 degrees..

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