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Hey guys,.

I run F5 Domains, and we had some trades on Bido.com which we had some payment issues with for a while thanks to a PayPal Account Restriction but eventually sorted it all out with the exception of one domain we I decided to refuse to complete (some people will disagree with me taking this action, I'm aware - and that's fine - but I believe it was the correct action to take considering I felt we were going to have this same action taken against us regardless of what we did, and I didn't want to reward this type of behaviour) because of the seller making threatening, abusive, childish and vulgar statements and sending emails with much of the same to us outside of the Bido communication system.

This domainer is somewhat known around here, and they've got a bit of a track record with making belittling and abusive statements towards people on their blog, and as a result of this we've received the fury of their latest attack post. I find it infuriating because it's going to cost a decent amount of money to fight this across country borders (though I believe I have no option but to do so in this case).

My feeling on this is that it isn't too bad considering that the domainer in question does indeed have a history of inflammatory posts on their blog and really strange rants (which is disappointing considering they're a fairly accomplished developer and should just stick to doing that) and their statement isn't at all credible (they've stated that we "scammed" and "defrauded" them - I don't see how, they lost nothing and Bido uses an Escrow system).

In the meantime, I put a response statement up on our website until our Lawyer reopens on Tuesday after the public holidays here in Australia, but I was basically looking for some feedback of what action I could look at taking other than legal action and our response notice.

I believe the action they've taken is just plain silly, if they have such a grievance it would have been better resolved by them either not being a fool in the first place with their abusive and threatening behaviour or by utilising their legal options. I think this action they've taken harms their ability to take much action now anyhow.

Let me know your thoughts, really interested in how to resolve this situation.

Thanks,.

Michael.

F5 Domains..

Comments (58)

Michael Purse, aka Pursey, of F5 Domains / F5Domains.com = LIAR, FRAUD.. AVOID! ...read everything at http://www.domainstryker.com/michael...om-liar-fraud/..

Comment #1

Michael purse, f5 domains, chombo, etc... in two words: BIG FRAUD from what it looks like and i've confirmed this with multiple sources, highly reliable and credible sources in fact http://www.domainstryker.com/michael...om-liar-fraud/.

AVOID ALL DEALINGS WITH "MICHAEL PURSE / F5 DOMAINS" AND BEWARE IS ALL I GOTTA SAY.

This clown has a gift for twisting words, and bullshiting his way out of situations, but this time around it's not going to be so simple...

Comment #2

Sorry I do not understand fully. Did he auction domains, and you paid him and he never gave you the domains? or did you auction domains and he didn't pay?..

Comment #3

He was the buyer, I am the seller.

Re-read the first paragraph, it should make more sense. Post added at 03:35 PM Previous post was at 03:31 PM he is like 21/22 now and apparently he's been working in IT since he was 14/15?? LOL http://techwiredau.com/tag/michael-purse/.

You might have noticed our recent entry, No Mail Please, Were The Government!, written by Michael Purse.

Michael has worked in the IT industry for around 7 years, starting out on Technical Support and gradually working his way up to being a System and Database Administraor. Hes worked for IBM Australia, and Telstra Corporation amongst others.

Hes also a regular contributor on Wikipedia, and has been involved in the planning phase for multiple start-ups, giving him a grounding in Marketing, Public Relations, as well as general Editing and Writing skills.

Primarily, Michael will be blogging about the Australian IT industrys economic situation, political events relating to Australian IT, and how the consumer internet marketplace is changing.

Michaels agreed to join the Tech Wired Australia blogging team, and youll hear a lot more from him soon. I asked Michael to provide a picture of himself for his introduction, but he insists hell be more than happy to oblige with a photo if youre in your 20s and female...

Comment #4

Michael Purse has been scamming since 2002& Wow! They sure do start young in AU.

Apparently Michael Purse has been scamming people for a long long time. Its really troubling, because right now he is only 21/22? That means he got started when he was just a teenager. This guy is totally ****ed in the head. Just read some of the comments back from 2003 from innocent people whom Michael Purse scammed thousands of dollars and repeatedly lied to. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...cfm/96234.html.

Acerimmer writes A little while back Michael Purse was selling cisco routers here for $275. Can anybody find the reference to that thread? It seems I might have been ripped off, and I need the forum thread to prove that I was one of the buyers.. Please dont ask it is a long story :-) .

Dan writes I wouldnt buy anything Michael Purse is associated with if I were you..

Woftam writes I also am in the same boat. TSN has the router , but Purse has not paid them with the money I deposited into his account. I will be taking leagal action , and would like to here from others in the same situation..

Crash Override writes If you guys catch up with him, you can add me to the list of creditors. What he owes me is a very small sum of money in comparison, but the little shit has made that many promises of repayment, and subequently broken every single one, that Im just a little peeved with him. He needs to wise up. Say hello to him for me!.

The Hunter writes My name is Alan McFarlane and I too have been ripped off by Michael Purse for $2200 dollars. I would be very interested in gathering you people together or at least having everyone document how Michael has affected them and which business he was working under at the time. Feel free to email me if you have any information on him. I have been following his movements and spoke to his most recent mark, a new friend from whom he stole $400. I must say I am not surpised at the number of people he has touched. The problem is he thinks he is going to get away with it..

Woftam writes O and btw , for the TSN thread purse started , he was using up to 4 accounts , and posting in that thread. I would like to get all who come here to organise some group  legal action , as I will be sending the debt collecter round to his house very soon..

Easily amused writes I remember I was flamed a while ago for suggesting that Michael Purse was nothing but a little conman and was told to give the kid a break. (no this is not an i told you so post) I hope that we can all agree wholeheartedly now that the amount of chances this child has had is more than enough and should he ever show his face around here anymore he should be banned as it was through Whirlpool I believe that he made a lot of his business contacts. I urge ALL of you who has been screwed over by Michael to go to any lengths at all to recover your money and teach this boy that it is 1) NOT Okay to steal and 2) He CANNOT get away with stealing..

Heisr writes From what I understand, Michael Purse is no longer a representative for TSN, so if anybody has any dealings with him, beware. He has ripped a fair amount of people off, and is continuing to do so. I have heard somewhere in the vicinity of $10g (dont quote me on that, but its a good estimation)..

Roscoe writes Out of all this, the thing that worries me is his access to credit card numbers. When I signed with TSN I gave him my CC number to bill my account. Nothing has been taken from my account (I manage my funds daily) which shouldnt have been, but never the less its a worrying thought. Something to be mindful should others be in the same position..

Sydneysider writes Yes, I too game him my details. But Its ok, you can lodge Fraud complaints against charges on your credit card so theyll credit back you account and chase the fraudulent person real quick..

There is a lot more too& AVOID ALL DEALINGS WITH MICHAEL PURSE / F5 DOMAINS AND BEWARE IS ALL I GOTTA SAY. This clown has a gift for twisting words, and bullshiting his way out of situations, but this time around its not going to be so simple. Mark my words!..

Comment #5

Oh OK, apparently Mike would rather just name himself directly. No problems.

Regardless, to be a fraud or a scam you actually need to have the capacity to lose something. So far, all you've lost is your mind sendings threats and abuse via email, leaving negative feedback here at namepros despite never having dealt with you except on Bido, and making ludicrous threats. You've already been given a Cease and Desist notice, I'd suggest you heed it...

Comment #6

Michael Purse and the cisco routers? - ISDN / DoV - Last century Michael Purse (Pursey) - Good Games Forums.

Professional scammer from as far as 2002/2003. Michael Purse has been scamming since 2002& Wow! They sure do start young in AU..

Comment #7

Sorry Pursey, but it seems like your trader reputation is already dogshit.

Guys like you have been taking advantage of the impersonal nature of internet dealing since folks first figured out that people were generally honest and they could trade stuff via the web. Up sprung various classes of traders, running the gamut of character from "Totally Upright and honest" to "completely crooked". Somewhere towards the bottom-end of that spectrum likes the "shitty trader".

This sort of dark-gray-area trader begins the transaction with the intent of completing it, but because of positively terrible business practices (as might be expected from a kid in his late teens or early 20's) he doesn't complete it, and thinks the string of excuses that always worked with Mommy are going to work with his pissed off customers, or the people whose products he agreed to purchase- at the expense of actual, buying customers- who now aren't going to get paid.

Yeah, maybe he HAS completed 500 transactions without a hitch... But there are still 50 angry people who never got their stuff...

Yeah, maybe he HAS paid for the last 40 things he agreed to purchase- but the latest 5 people are only getting a string of excuses...

Good luck with damage control, but I've made thousands and thousands of transactions via the web since digital cameras were a "new" thing and can count on one hand the times I've had 'trouble' following through with my commitments (to the point of it actually interfering with consummating the deal). With others, bad dealings are a double-figure percentage of all transactions they make...

A lot of shitty traders are just stupid kids trying to play in a grown-up world where the standards are higher than they comprehend. Eventually, you'll learn that reputation is a big deal and you shouldn't enter into transactions that you have no intention of completing, be it as a buyer or a seller...

Comment #8

Hey Dongsman,.

I don't think that is really the case at all. I've not had a single issue other than Mike Cohen's since we started our domaining ventures. No one's been "ripped off" or "scammed". In fact, neither has Mike. He's making some quite strange claims that he's been scammed and defrauded when he's not lost anything, and the only reason the transactions were canceled was because of the incredibly abusive and threatening content I was sent by him.

The figure is closer to 300 people who had a transaction without a hitch and 1 person who took things too far and we refused to deal with. That being said, he's linked to a thread from 7 years ago which I do claim responsibility for (when I was 16), and acting as an agent of an ISP here in Australia. I made some mistakes early on, all of those customers have received their goods or a refund, and I moved on. I don't try to hide from those early mistakes though.

I'm now 23, certainly not old and wise by any means, and I still have a whole load to learn about business and life but all in all I take advice from accountants, lawyers, friends, family, and other people in business and I do things properly. It's why this is the first issue we've had, and this certainly isn't even a real issue. Mike has lost nothing, other than a sale opportunity from his behaviour.

With regards to your last paragraph, I learned the reputation lesson years ago which is why I'm upset by Mike's garbage. We did have the intention of completing these transactions, and they were completed with the exception of Mike Cohen's because of his conduct and threats...

Comment #9

I agree it is reputation that matters. Once you have committed to something you should do it , no matter it is a profit or lost. If someone offers you 10 times more than someone else you have committed to, you cant back out... The rest is for you to decide and you can give yourself excuses all day about being right.....

Comment #10

Glaxxon,.

As I mentioned in the original post, I know some people are going to disagree with the backing out of the purchase because of his conduct. I know that bit is the contentious bit - the main issue is I felt that Mike Cohen was going to take this exact same action regardless of the outcome of the auction so I don't feel I should have rewarded him for doing so.

Your example of the 10x more is exactly right, I certainly wouldn't back out in such a circumstance (not that it's relevant, I was the buyer in this circumstance). I've backed out as a buyer due to the threats and abuse received from Mike Cohen and the fact he actually posted up all of this garbage while the auction process was still active (and then removed it)...

Comment #11

I don't know the situation enough to form many conclusions, etc, (too much "he said, she said" to root through, and I don't know either parties involved) but I just want to say to mike031 that writing emotionally-charged blog posts like that won't do much to help your case. Without knowing anything else about you I must say that, in my mind anyways, you've come off to be rather immature yourself! So what your sale fell through, have you considered dealing with it professionally? This kind of thing happens on a daily basis; it is unfortunately part of the industry. Nothing worth losing your temper about. Deal with it and move on to the next sale. If legal action is appropriate, then by all means, pursue that option. But making an immature shitfight public won't do either of you any good...

Comment #12

Thanks for your input. I think that's my sentiment exactly, he's more than welcome to pursue his legal options against me, I have no issues at all with that. I do have an issue with the vexatious garbage he's spewing all over the internet and these weird claims that I've scammed or defrauded him when all that has happened is I refused to complete an auction sale due to his behaviour.

I also think this is pretty much the last thing I should say on it, I don't really want to get into the "shitfight" you referred to because I can't see it doing any good. Mike has threatened to take us to court which is all well and good, but I'm sure his case will not be helped by the action he's taken and does in fact leave him open for us to take action.

Thanks for everyone's input, even if you're not in agreement with why I canceled the auction - I understand it's some people's viewpoint that it should have been completed in all circumstances. My reasoning is still that this would have happened either way and I didn't want to reward that behaviour as evidenced by his earlier posting of this same material while the auction was still active.

Cheers...

Comment #13

You say that you didn't complete your end of the deal because he was going to do something to you either way. Exactly what was his threat?.

It probably doesn't matter though. The fact that you turned your back on the deal makes this thread an automatic backfire. With PayPal account problems you could have sent a check, money order, wired the money, Western Union, etc.....

Comment #14

Hey,.

I'm not going to reproduce his threats because they're going to be referred to police and used in our civil action. There's nothing to "backfire", I admitted in the initial post people aren't going to agree with our backing out of the deal. Though, I have little doubt many of you would have completed the sale either if you could actually see the full details...

Comment #15

What damages are you going to claim?.

I don't think you are going to get anywhere relying on the negative feedback and blog post. It's going to be hard to say they are defamatory when their basis is that you didn't pay, something that you admit to...

Comment #16

I'm not going to go too far into this, because of the legal issues at hand. The issue isn't that he's saying we've backed out of a sale (I wouldn't have any objection to him doing that). Rather the characterisation that we've defrauded or scammed him in some way and the repetitive spamming of his reputation-damaging diatribe. There's other issues, but I'm not going to delve into the whole situation while everything is still pending...

Comment #17

Just as an FYI for interested parties, I've taken note of your opinions of the fact that I should not have reversed the deal under any circumstances and that you feel it was the wrong thing to do.

I've made an offer to Mike Cohen to pay him a cash amount to compensate him for the failed transaction, the time he spent on the auction, and any fees he incurred. Beyond that, there's not a great deal I can do about it now. I have no idea whether he will choose to accept the offer or not, but it's on the table.

I still feel the defamatory material is taking it way too far, and I hope this nonsense does cease...

Comment #18

There is no basis for legal action, which you are free to pursue, but won't stand. By your own account, if you have legal issues on hand, the courts will first generally ask the platform where the dispute occurred, to resolve the melee within their TOS.

Defamation cases are one of the hardest to win. You'll need to prove that your brand and business equity was affected in losses directly on account of 3rd party actions.

Try to resolve this amicably...

Comment #19

Mods, please do not ban michael purse "pursey" yet.

His rambling is actually helpful and shows his true colors.

Go ahead, pursey, speak your mind... carry on.

Let this be documented..

Comment #20

He say's that he has made good with all the people he scammed, so why would he get banned in your opinion ?

Comment #21

Bit of an update on this; I've tried to negotiate a settlement with Mike Cohen but he's continued to be rude and uncooperative. I've also contacted Bido and offered to pay them the commission of 10% they would have earned had the sale been completed as per normal so no one is out of pocket.

So far, Mike's ideas have been:.

"I will make sure the first 50 - 60 results on Google, Yahoo and MSN display all of your previous history and bad dealings.".

And.

"Your friends, whatever family you have and business associates will be getting notified of your recent actions if this situation is not resolved for good.".

And.

"In the US, this is what you call "having you by the balls" and that I do, little man... I GOT YOU BY THE BALLS. ".

The main issue is that large portions of the information Mike has posted up is false and contains misinformation all over the place. I don't think he's got any intention of resolving this in a reasonable manner and is simply progressing with everything as a personal vendetta.

In short, Bido has been offered the commission they would have earned, and Mike is being uncooperative and is choosing to continue to defame myself and F5 Domains in lieu of a more reasonable resolution. I believe I've now taken all reasonable steps to resolve this in a peaceful manner, and will not be taking any further action. He's welcome to take up one of my offers at any point by responding to my emails.

[Update: Just got this gem from Mike: "Apparently you think all of this is fun and games... But your little shitty rep isn't worth much either, eh? All clear on that. Makes perfect sense! www[dot]MichaelPursey[dot]com and www[dot]MichaelPurse[dot]net will be going up over the weekend and personally SEO'd and marketed by me like there is no tomorrow with a lot of factual information."]..

Comment #22

To be honest Pursey you're handling this well enough. You should probably just begin to ignore him from now on.

Mike has gone over the top and anyone reading this thread will surely see it that way. His blog post is just one giant rant that doesn't say too much...

Comment #23

Thanks labrocca,.

Incidentally I believe we've actually traded before for checkbet dot com (with me as the buyer) without any issue through Sedo. Appreciate the comments and advice...

Comment #24

I agree with this, ok he is disappointed that his purchase fell through, but there is an old saying which is relevant here..

" People in glass houses should not throw stones ".

His bonus here is more eyeballs on his blog..

If you are working to put right your past wrongdoings, eventually you will improve your reputation...

Comment #25

Eh, buy something from me, Pursey, and I'll make sure the first 50 results are positive, lol. j/k..

Comment #26

Maybe you can offer Mike a name listed on your website... AngerSpecialist.com.

But I disagree with Pursey for backing out of the purchase and he should drop the legal stuff...

Comment #27

Jeez, Mike has certainly convinced me by his attitude and behavior that I'll never be a customer of WannaDevelop.com or DomainStryker.com.....

Comment #28

Nice to see a cool head here. Did mike bought your domain name "name". You have a case there.

I wonder what does Mike means when he said.

"Your friends, whatever family you have and business associates will be getting notified of your recent actions if this situation is not resolved for good.".

Didn't you agreed to do anyhting to solve it behind doors?..

Comment #29

Mike, don't do that. Michael did not commit fraud or a crime against you. For the said dispute you have with Michael, BIDO should have (if Michael defaulted on the terms) penalties in place. This is what TOS is for. Did both of you read the details?.

I've had one noob joker, over at DNF do this to my son; creating multiple defamatory websites, essentially acting as judge and jury and maligning his name and mine with lies and nothing but lies. He kept harassing us at which point my son threatened him with physical harm. Tarnishing a name is never prudent where no fraud occurred.

For one reason or other a potential client at times may back away from a deal. Just move on. What you are threatening to do is not right and per your furnished evidence, will land you in hot soup...

Comment #30

Thanks for your comments. I've tried to resolve this several times but so far no solid results. Still trying, because I'm determined to see this through and resolved as I acknowledge I shouldn't have backed out of the sale.

So I'm intending to try and find a resolution to rectify my poor choice, though I feel that the reaction is extreme and quite frankly disgusting from Mike, who so far has refused any negotiation on a resolution...

Comment #31

Well, after a bit of research and a lot of people sending me emails, looks like we're just one of the many to face Mike Cohen's vexatious garbage. http://f5domains.com/cohenfollowup.pdf.

I don't have anything else to say on this in public after finding all of this. I'm firmly of the believe it's simply someone with an anger issue and that's that. Thanks so much for all your comments, even when you haven't agreed with me. Appreciate every single one of them...

Comment #32

This is called harrassment and any suit against you should have a counter claim. Courts are going to really frown on him using these type of tactics...

Comment #33

Pursey hang in there...first when I saw all this develop(pun intended!) I was not so sure but over the development of this thread(lol) I have to side with you since you stayed cool and calm (even the "i go to the police thing" didn't fly with me.....but the most important thing I have to say, everyone deserves a second chance and it looks like you learned from your past mistakes(whatever happened then it is the past) but mike needs to "develop" a different attitude...i remember almost a year ago he attacked aeiou.com what resulted in more sales for them LOL...maybe he should change his business/domain name into"www.wannaangermanagement.com" or "www.wannabeharrassedafterdealingwithme.com" lol.

Anyway, like a lot of people already said, his rep here just went down the tube :-).

Cheers.

Liquid.

P.S: I wonder who he want's to take on next lol(don't even try Mike!) :-)..

Comment #34

Maybe not fraud, but certainly a big waste of time if the seller's claims are true that he dragged this out for 2 months and in the end didn't pay.

The purpose of this thread seems to have been to reposition himself as the victim instead of just sucking it in and taking the unexpected heat...

Comment #35

Certainly not, I admit that I should have completed the auction early. It wasn't possible however (PayPal Issues, and I had major health issues). I returned (and not after 2 months, either) and got nothing but abuse, contempt, and threats from Mike Cohen. I also admit that I was probably wrong to cancel the auction in most people's eyes (I've explained why I did it, if you disagree, that's fine).

Regardless, I accept some blame. But the retaliatory action from Mike is disgusting, especially considering his own track record...

Comment #36

Michael Purse and the cisco routers? - ISDN / DoV - Last century.

Acerimmer writes A little while back Michael Purse was selling cisco routers here for $275. Can anybody find the reference to that thread? It seems I might have been ripped off, and I need the forum thread to prove that I was one of the buyers.. Please dont ask it is a long story :-) .

Dan writes I wouldnt buy anything Michael Purse is associated with if I were you..

Woftam writes I also am in the same boat. TSN has the router , but Purse has not paid them with the money I deposited into his account. I will be taking leagal action , and would like to here from others in the same situation..

Crash Override writes If you guys catch up with him, you can add me to the list of creditors. What he owes me is a very small sum of money in comparison, but the little shit has made that many promises of repayment, and subequently broken every single one, that Im just a little peeved with him. He needs to wise up. Say hello to him for me!.

The Hunter writes My name is Alan McFarlane and I too have been ripped off by Michael Purse for $2200 dollars. I would be very interested in gathering you people together or at least having everyone document how Michael has affected them and which business he was working under at the time. Feel free to email me if you have any information on him. I have been following his movements and spoke to his most recent mark, a new friend from whom he stole $400. I must say I am not surpised at the number of people he has touched. The problem is he thinks he is going to get away with it..

Woftam writes O and btw , for the TSN thread purse started , he was using up to 4 accounts , and posting in that thread. I would like to get all who come here to organise some group  legal action , as I will be sending the debt collecter round to his house very soon..

Easily amused writes I remember I was flamed a while ago for suggesting that Michael Purse was nothing but a little conman and was told to give the kid a break. (no this is not an i told you so post) I hope that we can all agree wholeheartedly now that the amount of chances this child has had is more than enough and should he ever show his face around here anymore he should be banned as it was through Whirlpool I believe that he made a lot of his business contacts. I urge ALL of you who has been screwed over by Michael to go to any lengths at all to recover your money and teach this boy that it is 1) NOT Okay to steal and 2) He CANNOT get away with stealing..

Heisr writes From what I understand, Michael Purse is no longer a representative for TSN, so if anybody has any dealings with him, beware. He has ripped a fair amount of people off, and is continuing to do so. I have heard somewhere in the vicinity of $10g (dont quote me on that, but its a good estimation)..

Roscoe writes Out of all this, the thing that worries me is his access to credit card numbers. When I signed with TSN I gave him my CC number to bill my account. Nothing has been taken from my account (I manage my funds daily) which shouldnt have been, but never the less its a worrying thought. Something to be mindful should others be in the same position..

Sydneysider writes Yes, I too game him my details. But Its ok, you can lodge Fraud complaints against charges on your credit card so theyll credit back you account and chase the fraudulent person real quick..

It's interesting that you have not defended any of these claims, have you paid all these people back ? Are they false allegations ? Are they true and you havn't paid them back ? It would seriously help your cause if you cleared some of this up. This could keep coming up and bite you in the future...

Comment #37

Exsedo, I actually have earlier in the thread/in our responses. Yes, they have been paid back/refunded or received the goods, more than 7 years ago (I was 16 at the time and made a mistake, unfortunately in public. The mistake was simply a misunderstanding in the end (about the Net 30 status of my Agency Account - with the exception of Crash Override, who was owed $20 from me as a personal debt and was paid), and the issue was rectified however the thread is closed and Whirlpool seems to have a policy of not deleting threads.

In short - it was an error I made when I was young(er) and dumb(er), is over 7 years old and resolved...

Comment #38

Well all I can say is that I commend you for doing the right thing and putting things right. There are many who would just turn a blind eye and hope it goes away..

I wish you the best of luck with your new enterprise..

All the best...

Comment #39

Michael Purse is a pathological liar and a career criminal.

We'll be exposing him for the crook that he is and once again, I urge you to beware and avoid all dealings. He is a selfless little scammer.

When it comes to bullshiting his way out of this kinds of situations and making the unbelievable believable on a scale of 1 to 10 he is a 15.

He has been doing this as far back as 2002/2003 so he has plenty of practice.

PS all of the quotes posted here are made up, I never said any of those things; content is in other words fabricated, just like the rest of his stories always are. I've posted nothing but the truth; unfortunate experiences and testimonials from 3rd parties who dealt with this fraudster, while this crook pulls his stories outta his ass it seems and you all believe every word he says... Sad.

He's your headache now NamePros... Cheers! http://community.goodgames.com.au/fo...pic=25587&st=0 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...cfm/96234.html..

Comment #40

You certainly know how to make friends Mike, making a polite post containing facts and proof of your allegations would be better than calling NP's members obnoxious names on the other Domain Name Forum..

Although it is disturbing that the two incidents are 3 years apart, and his schoolmate agrees with your opinion. Do you have any more installments to this saga ?

Comment #41

@ex.

Look man, the guys here who have vouched / stood up for michael purse are his own scammer friends and/or partners... DUH.

Who else would OK such behavior from him and even show support ??!.

The man has a record the size of a football field.

Wake up people.

You think I have nothing better to do than make up shit and spend my own precious time on this non sense??! Just look at the facts, it's all there. What else needs to be said??..

Comment #42

So you think I'm a shill for this guy? lol. I see some deals gone bad all of which appear corrected by refunds.

Seems to me you're not really out anything as he simply didn't close a sale with you where he was the buyer...

Comment #43

This is interesting, as now, it's clear that someone's just a flat out liar- either you or him.

Often times, exchanges like this get so entangled with the tit-for-tat and Google dirt-digging minutiae that really, it all boils down to individual perception, however, if someone posts email exchanges and the person who sent those messages responds with "I NEVER SAID THOSE THINGS- HE'S MAKING IT UP!!!", then there is absolutely no doubt you have outright bad-faith, manipulative dishonesty going. *That* is a helluva lot uglier than a soured business deal.

There's no telling who, but it's clear that it's no longer a matter of conflicting perception and ruffled feathers. Someone here is just totally lacking a shred of integrity- either him for fabricating things you never said, or you for really saying those things, but claiming the he fabricated them.

Best of luck to both of you. Things like this always suck, as the internet never forgets and all this is now part of the eternal archive. Right or wrong, you can bet your ass both of you will lose business over this matter when people Google up your names and see this bullshit...

Comment #44

Ok, but it's not as clear cut as you make out.

The first forum thread you posted was from a long time ago, and he claims to have put things right. That is why I thought, ok, he was young at the time, give him a break. Hence my comments. That doesn't mean that I have any dealings with him, and the same for others, just because they don't immediately agree with you, doesn't mean they are all in cahoots..

Now after your second forum link, the perception changes for me, and I'm thinking that this guy is not what he wants us to think he is..

My opinion now, is that he is using other peoples money to fund his schemes, and paying back when he has made enough money to do so..

In his mind he maybe thinks he's not done anything wrong, because he eventually paid the money back, and if that is the case, he is obviously deluded..

This is only my opinion from the evidence you have posted, but I bet I am not far wrong. Either way, it does not look good and any further scandals after 2006, I would write him off as a lost cause...

Comment #45

I don't really understand what Mike's problem is. He sold a domain which Pursey didn't follow through with the purchase. Pursey has said in this thread that he's tried to resolve this matter and purchase the said domain. Why doesn't Mike just follow though with that offer?..

Comment #46

The situation is really confusing. I cannot support you, Pursey, on failing to complete the transaction but at the same time you've got my sympathy. Having read some parts of Mike's blogs, it is more than obvious that he's gone out of proportion, too far. If I was you, I would do what you are already trying to do, i.e. resolve it amicably. At the end of the day he seems the bigger loser, IMHO...

Comment #47

That better not be aimed at me, mister. I don't even know Pursey, but I see you coming in all overboard, you look completely unprofessional...

Comment #48

He could be using peoples funds as a short-term loan of sorts. Unethical to say the least.

I think this can go either way but when I see unprofessionalism in a deal dispute I tend to believe the person displaying restraint and level headedness. Mike isn't displaying either of those qualities.

Deals can go bad on the web but that doesn't really mean a scam has occurred...

Comment #49

Eh, sometimes, it's a personality type thing.

Some people are just way, way hysterical about shit and often times come off 'looking worse' about matters, even when they're clearly in the right. It seems that Cohen is such a person. Others are far more calm, but nevertheless, what lies beneath may be very snaky and dishonest, in spite of their placid and metered demeanor.

Who knows about Pursey- he's definitely made a pretty compelling case for himself here- seeing as he's willing to work it all out- in spite of some missteps that just so happened to be chronicled on the internet from years ago...

There is no dealing with hysterical people- positive dealings become all but impossible, negative dealings get blown out of proportion. Everything is 'difficult' with them. The moment I get the slightest hint that I'm dealing with a shrieking, howling, hysterical nightmare, I have no interest in transacting with that person in any fashion. The slightest curve in the road and they immediately launch into Aspergers-Syndrome type tantrums, completely melting down over the most trivial bullshit.

I'm starting to wonder if Pursey didn't encounter something like this and just say "Fuck it. I have no interest in dealing with you. Keep the damn domain...".

Of course, the flip-side to it all is that maybe Mike031 does have a personality-type that makes him abrasive, hard to digest and generally obnoxious, but he's totally right and Pursey is smart enough to realize that people like him are apt to hanging themselves if you just play cool and keep feeding them rope; even if they're totally in the right, they still 'look wrong'...

Who knows.

[popcorn]..

Comment #50

That was the end reason the domain sale was canceled, yes. I was not going to reward his behaviour after he made threats, abused me, put up false material on his blog (and then removed it again, then put it up again).

With regards to Mike Cohen claiming he never said those things, my inbox says otherwise, as does his track record. I've had many people email me over the last few days saying that they've encountered Mike before and this is all par for course. I do have every email Mike has sent to me. On f5domains.com, the second PDF link contains some of his statements he's made to both me and others as well.

With regards to my past, I've already addressed it. It's done, there's nothing I can do about it. I was very young, and made some stupid decisions. I refunded those people, and I have to live with the fact it's eternally archived. I can either disappear/change my name or I can push on and be honest about it and keep trying to make my living.

Thanks again everyone for your comments, even if you don't agree/totally agree with me. And I'm sorry you've been referred to as my "scammer friends".

Cheers,.

Michael..

Comment #51

Me too. People like that are going to be a problem even if you go through with the transaction. It's a higher risk they will want a refund or worse..file a dispute. Better to err on the side of caution if you get the willies imho. I don't think anyone would. I don't know what set him off but it seems to me he is calling you a scammer when in fact he isn't out anything.

Pursey...move on. That's my advice. I think his rants will fall on deaf ears. I've been called worse...

Comment #52

Heh, it looks like he doesn't care about the Moderators/Admins here either. They removed his Negative Feedback left for me last time, so he's just put it on my profile again.

Edit; I wont be leaving any retaliatory rating for him though - I don't think it's relevant to NamePros Trading History, and the transaction was originally restricted to Bido/their escrow and communication system anyhow. Plus, it would be petty...

Comment #53

I don't think how someone behaves is a legitimate reason not to follow through on an agreement.

Nonetheless, I am not sure why this hasn't been worked out in private already and the public bashing ended?..

Comment #54

Hey Tia,.

Because Mike has refused to negotiate/resolve the matter. I have even tried offering him cash compensation for the failed sale as a compromise. He refused. Bido was also offered the 10% commission they would have earned to ensure they weren't out of pocket...

Comment #55

Pursey now is supposbly a well respected "business member" on namepros and he even joined dnf as an exclusive member few days ago as well... he thinks he can buy the support / respect of other domainers.

Throw some cash at mods / site operators and all is well... ha.

Lol.

Hilarious.

Playing you all for fools...

This fly-by-night scammers need to be outed and then banned for good, but what do I know ?

Comment #56

Mike,.

Your silly claims are just getting old now. I paid for Business Membership for the additional marketplace allowances. You're doing nothing other than looking stupid and offending people. I would suggest letting it go and stop being so petty.

You accused longstanding members of this forum of being shills and "scammer friends", and now you're claiming the Moderator's can be bought off? You really should quit right now before you do yourself any more damage. Edit: Fly-by-night scammer? Yep, that explains why I'm still here. *rolls eyes*..

Comment #57

Note to Everyone:.

Please avoid the personal attacks on this forum. All members are innocent until proven guilty. It is unfair to accuse members of being scammers when the evidence is not enough to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

While we have not investigated this particular incident/issue, from the looks of the thread, there doesn't seem to be a need to do so at this time. Thus, we must take a neutral stance before passing judgment on any member.

I believe this thread has run it's course. Should someone object, please report this thread and we can investigate further...

Comment #58


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.

 

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