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Canon EOS 350D vs Nikon D40, HELP!!!
I think I have narrowed my options down to two (unless you have another suggestion).

I see that the difference between the two is mainly the exposure options and the Canon has autofocus to where the Nikon does not....That seemed fairly obvious to me which one I wanted, the canon..

BUUUUT!The canon is a lot older?Does that make a whole lot of difference when it comes to options?.

(maily shooting outdoor photography, beginner).

Thanks!..

Comments (19)

Don't really want to spend a whole lot at the moment.Just beginning....

With the lense kit that they come with, which is a better choice in your/everyones opinion? :o)..

Comment #1

I had a 350D years ago. I didn't like it at all. It's got a small, dim screen that's impossible to read text on when outside in the sun, it feels extremely plasticky, and the hand grip is plain awful. Never used a D40 but I can't imagine it could be worse!!!.

The 18-55 Canon non-IS kit lens was similarly awful. Not very sharp, and if you look close the images look smeared, so hard to sharpen them afterwards..

Regarding the D40 and not autofocussing with older lenses. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it - the new lenses are all good to go with the D40, just the older ebay bargains won't autofocus. They will still work in every other respect though, at least the older AF lenses will....

Jwoods wrote:.

Don't really want to spend a whole lot at the moment.Just beginning....

With the lense kit that they come with, which is a better choice inyour/everyones opinion? :o)..

Comment #2

Let's put it like this:.

If you had asked "shall I get the D40 or the EOS 450D", I'd tell you "they're both good"..

If you had asked "shall I get the D40 or the EOS 400D", I'd tell you "the EOS is OK, but get the D40".

Now that you're asking "shall I get the D40 or the EOS 350D", I'm telling you:Do yourself a favor and get the D40. Forget the 350D..

If you really, really, really want Canon lenses, get the 400D, not the 350D.

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Comment #3

I appreciate the help everyone!.

My husband was also telling me to go with the Nikon, but he doesn't know anything about cameras either lol..

I'd be spending about the same on either one so was just trying to decide which was the best way to go....

Thanks so much!..

Comment #4

I am a Canon user for compact cameras. Also the Canon dSLRs are very good. Pair any back with a good lens and it would get you very good results. A good and cheap lens is 50 mm f/1.8..

The kit lens for 350D and 400D is quite bad. The new kit lens for 450D is good enough..

The ergonomics and build quality of Canon 350D are a little awkward. It has a lot of features you don't find in the Nikon D40 (like exposure and white balance bracketing, 9 AF points, full compatibility with prime lens) but also doesn't have some features of Nikon D40 (customizable Auto ISO for PASM modes, spot metering)..

If you don't want a lot of prime lenses and you are OK with 3 AF points and don't need exposure or WB bracketing I see no problem with Nikon D40..

I personally chose Nikon because Canon 400D with 18-55 mm IS was twice the price and I don't care for more AF points (I use only one, usually the center one), WB bracketing or prime lenses. I miss a little the exposure bracketing.VictorBucuresti, Romaniahttp://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/victor_petcu/http://picasaweb.google.com/teodor.nitica/..

Comment #5

If you plan to use it with the kit lens only, I recommend the d40 as it comes with a sharper lens.Rafy Sugirihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/rafysugiri/sets/.

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Comment #6

I bought a Canon 350D when the 400D was coming out (I tend to buy the "older" models when they go on sale). I opted not to get the kit lens. Rather, I bought the 50mm f/1.8 and used it to learn with, and a year later I bought some really good glass (the 17-40mm f/4 and the 70-200mm f/4). I have been extremely happy with the 350D, so much so that I have not even been tempted to buy a 400D or 450D. You can check my Zenfolio site below and see the quality of the photos that I have produced with this camera shooting jpgs and doing very little processing. Don't discount the Canon!.

Jerryhttp://jchoate.zenfolio.com/..

Comment #7

Jwoods wrote:.

I think I have narrowed my options down to two (unless you haveanother suggestion).

I see that the difference between the two is mainly the exposureoptions and the Canon has autofocus to where the Nikon does not....That seemed fairly obvious to me which one I wanted, the canon..

BUUUUT!The canon is a lot older?Does that make a whole lot of difference when it comes to options?.

(maily shooting outdoor photography, beginner).

Thanks!.

Hello,.

Just a thought. Did you consider Sony A200 and A300, they are in the same price bracket with Nikon/Canon. I personally used A100 and A700. The best part of these machines is they have in body image stabilizer, so whatever lens (even a 10 years old minolta lens)you attach, becomes stabilized .. whereas you'll have to pay a premium for image stabilized lenses if you opt Canon/Nikon. Also, A200 and A300 has faster focussing motor..

A plus for A300 is live view. Other models cannot use the LCD to compose like P&S..

I'd suggest you to try all these models in a local camera shop.ThanksAyan (Sonian)..

Comment #8

Jchoate wrote:.

I bought a Canon 350D when the 400D was coming out (I tend to buy the"older" models when they go on sale). I opted not to get the kitlens. Rather, I bought the 50mm f/1.8 and used it to learn with, anda year later I bought some really good glass (the 17-40mm f/4 and the70-200mm f/4). I have been extremely happy with the 350D, so much sothat I have not even been tempted to buy a 400D or 450D. You cancheck my Zenfolio site below and see the quality of the photos that Ihave produced with this camera shooting jpgs and doing very littleprocessing. Don't discount the Canon!.

I owned 350D and shot with it for about one year, it is fine camera. I did not buy it with it's kit lens either and also had 50mm f1.8. The 350D and 50mm f1.8 gives me sharp pictures. But the OP is comparing 350D against d40, both with kit lens so I recommend the d40 with it's kit lens.Rafy Sugirihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/rafysugiri/sets/http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/dna.php?username=79015415@N00.

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Comment #9

Cjnielsen_nz wrote:.

Regarding the D40 and not autofocussing with older lenses. Iwouldn't lose any sleep over it - the new lenses are all good to gowith the D40, just the older ebay bargains won't autofocus. Theywill still work in every other respect though, at least the older AFlenses will....

How about the Nikon "D" prime lenses ? Like these:.

Nikon AF 35mm F2.0 D.

Http://www.17photo.com/product.asp?id=1923.

Nikon AF 85mm F1.8 D.

Http://www.17photo.com/product.asp?id=1931.

I think the answer is "no", but I'm not 100% sure. If later the OP wanted a low light, no flash lens, the 35mm f/2 would be good..

Or if they later wanted a great portrait lens, the 85mm f/1.8 ... that would be good too..

And these two lenses aren't just "ebay bargains" ... Nikon sells no other equivalent lens. So maybe they could start looking at the Sigma or Tamron lenses ?

Comment #10

Jwoods wrote:.

I think I have narrowed my options down to two (unless you haveanother suggestion).

I see that the difference between the two is mainly the exposureoptions and the Canon has autofocus to where the Nikon does not....That seemed fairly obvious to me which one I wanted, the canon..

This is exactly the dilemma I was in till last week and I went over to B&H over the weekend to check out both the cameras in hand - took me few minutes to determine Nikon D40 was the one I would want. The screen for me on XT was too small and it's too small for my hands as well - D40 was fitting in well. Beleive me - holding it and firing a few sample shots in the store would give you a very good idea..

BUUUUT!The canon is a lot older?Does that make a whole lot of difference when it comes to options?.

I had the lens concern on D40 as well (and had asked about that in this forum). Our friends here suggested (which also appeared more correct as I did further research) that most lenses I would seek (as a beginner) have their own motor for auto-focus - this stays true also for the kit lens that comes with D40...

Comment #11

Ayan Dakshi wrote:.

Hello,.

Just a thought. Did you consider Sony A200 and A300, they are in thesame price bracket with Nikon/Canon. I personally used A100 and A700.The best part of these machines is they have in body imagestabilizer, so whatever lens (even a 10 years old minolta lens)youattach, becomes stabilized .. whereas you'll have to pay a premiumfor image stabilized lenses if you opt Canon/Nikon. Also, A200 andA300 has faster focussing motor..

A plus for A300 is live view. Other models cannot use the LCD tocompose like P&S..

I'd suggest you to try all these models in a local camera shop.ThanksAyan (Sonian).

I considered it but my father is buying an A200. We wanted to go for two separate "beginner" cameras that we could both check out...

Comment #12

Geekybiz wrote:.

Jwoods wrote:.

I think I have narrowed my options down to two (unless you haveanother suggestion).

I see that the difference between the two is mainly the exposureoptions and the Canon has autofocus to where the Nikon does not....That seemed fairly obvious to me which one I wanted, the canon..

This is exactly the dilemma I was in till last week and I went overto B&H over the weekend to check out both the cameras in hand - tookme few minutes to determine Nikon D40 was the one I would want. Thescreen for me on XT was too small and it's too small for my hands aswell - D40 was fitting in well. Beleive me - holding it and firing afew sample shots in the store would give you a very good idea..

BUUUUT!The canon is a lot older?Does that make a whole lot of difference when it comes to options?.

I had the lens concern on D40 as well (and had asked about that inthis forum). Our friends here suggested (which also appeared morecorrect as I did further research) that most lenses I would seek (asa beginner) have their own motor for auto-focus - this stays truealso for the kit lens that comes with D40..

The only "camera" shops I have locally would be Office Depot and Staples, so you can imagine my options are limited with trying something hands on..

Last night I went to Office Depot and the only one they had there was the Canon 450D (couldn't take pictures b/c the battery was dead, ugh!).... 450D isn't really in my budget though so I drove my happy butt down to Staples and GUESS WHAT?! They had the Nikon D40 sitting right there on display along with the Canon 450D. But I also couldn't take pictures with it b/c the batteries were dead, COME ON PEOPLE! lol..

But I've made my decision. The D40 seems like what will suit my needs better. Someone said at the beginning of this thread that you can't hardly see the LCD screen in the sun on the 350D.... I will almost always be outdoors with the camera..

Staples had it on sale for $499.00 but I can get a package deal on ebay that includes.

Body18-55mm lenswide angle lenstelephoto lens3pc filter kit4GB SD cardCard raderAluminum hard casedelux tripodcharger and batterytable tripodlens cleaning kitAC/DC rapid chargerLowepro a100 slingshot backpackScreen protectorsdigital flashNikon lens capNikon strapUSB Cableand free shipping.

For 598.00? I think i'll go that route lol.

Thank you everyone! You guys have been such a wonderful help!..

Comment #13

Jwoods wrote:.

Ayan Dakshi wrote:.

Hello,.

Just a thought. Did you consider Sony A200 and A300, they are in thesame price bracket with Nikon/Canon. I personally used A100 and A700.The best part of these machines is they have in body imagestabilizer, so whatever lens (even a 10 years old minolta lens)youattach, becomes stabilized .. whereas you'll have to pay a premiumfor image stabilized lenses if you opt Canon/Nikon. Also, A200 andA300 has faster focussing motor..

A plus for A300 is live view. Other models cannot use the LCD tocompose like P&S..

I'd suggest you to try all these models in a local camera shop.ThanksAyan (Sonian).

I considered it but my father is buying an A200. We wanted to go fortwo separate "beginner" cameras that we could both check out..

Hi. Have you actually considered the positive side of you and your father sharing the same camera system? Obviously I am talking about the financial benefit and flexibility of interchanging lenses in the future..

I have been a 350D user since the advent of the model btw but none of my friends have a dSLR, let alone a Canon, for me to be able to borrow their lenses.Food for thought perhaps..

Cheers SubyMelbourne, Australia...

Comment #14

I would not spend $99 for nothing with the risk of being a defective camera. The cheapest Nikon lens is around $100 so the wide angle and telephoto lens (without any real specifications so they may be conversion lenses), the useless filters (polarizer cannot be used with kit lens because it's not IF)..

Buy from a respected seller and then buy additional accesories only if you need them and not because someoe gives them in a bag..

If you are going wrong with Ebay you loose $598. I would never risk that much for no useful accesories. I think you can find good deals at reputable online stores with a proven reliability.VictorBucuresti, Romaniahttp://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/victor_petcu/http://picasaweb.google.com/teodor.nitica/..

Comment #15

Staples had it on sale for $499.00 but I can get a package deal onebay that includes.

Body18-55mm lenswide angle lenstelephoto lens3pc filter kit4GB SD cardCard raderAluminum hard casedelux tripodcharger and batterytable tripodlens cleaning kitAC/DC rapid chargerLowepro a100 slingshot backpackScreen protectorsdigital flashNikon lens capNikon strapUSB Cableand free shipping.

For 598.00? I think i'll go that route lol.

Thank you everyone! You guys have been such a wonderful help!.

Costco appears to have an awesome deal going on right now where they offer the D40 with 18-55 as well as 55-200 VR with 2G memory - note that the 55-200 is VR - for 599 odd bucks - sounds like a good deal to me...

Comment #16

Well thanks for the help that also sounds like a good deal to me, but I still don't know much lol..

My husband and I have always had real good luck with ebay but I know what you mean about wasting 598.00!.

I'm kinda just wanting to go with staples 499.00 for the camera and 18-55mm camera....but who knows? It'll probly be a couple weeks before I make a decision anyways...

Comment #17

SUBY wrote:.

Jwoods wrote:.

Ayan Dakshi wrote:.

Hello,.

Just a thought. Did you consider Sony A200 and A300, they are in thesame price bracket with Nikon/Canon. I personally used A100 and A700.The best part of these machines is they have in body imagestabilizer, so whatever lens (even a 10 years old minolta lens)youattach, becomes stabilized .. whereas you'll have to pay a premiumfor image stabilized lenses if you opt Canon/Nikon. Also, A200 andA300 has faster focussing motor..

A plus for A300 is live view. Other models cannot use the LCD tocompose like P&S..

I'd suggest you to try all these models in a local camera shop.ThanksAyan (Sonian).

I considered it but my father is buying an A200. We wanted to go fortwo separate "beginner" cameras that we could both check out..

Hi. Have you actually considered the positive side of you and yourfather sharing the same camera system? Obviously I am talking aboutthe financial benefit and flexibility of interchanging lenses in thefuture.I have been a 350D user since the advent of the model btw but none ofmy friends have a dSLR, let alone a Canon, for me to be able toborrow their lenses.Food for thought perhaps..

Cheers SubyMelbourne, Australia..

Yea who knows? right..

Comment #18

Have you checked eBay for used 400D's; I am positive you should find something in your price range, or very very close to it..

I used to be a D40 fan until I heard about the problem with some lenses not working on it - why bother going there? Any electronic Canon lens and third party lens, with the exception of some older Sigma lenses will work on the 400D..

Here's an advert in Vancouver BC, which is more expensive than what you can get at B&H or Adorama, note this is body only:.

Http://www.bccamera.com/...age=product_info&cPath=7_16&products_id=70Either you are in charge of the camera, or it is in charge of you...

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