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I am currently looking for a new camera. I am debating between the nikon d40x and cannon xti. Both seem to be good camera's and I have heard alot of good things about them. I have read many reviews but still wnat to get some advice...This will be my first digital SLR. I would appreciate any help thanks!!!..

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Rose11597 wrote:.

I am currently looking for a new camera. I am debating between thenikon d40x and cannon xti. Both seem to be good camera's and I haveheard alot of good things about them. I have read many reviews butstill wnat to get some advice...This will be my first digital SLR. Iwould appreciate any help thanks!!!.

This is not a 'wise-guy' answer, this is a serious answer. It truely doesn't matter what you buy. Any of the major brands of DSLR will serve you well. Buy the one that fits well in your hand and which has the best price. But don't restrict yourself to just Canon or Nikon. You will find a lot of value in Olympus, Pentax, Sony, and Sigma, and some innovative features that Canikon is just now starting to adopt..

STOP Global Stasis! Change is good!.

Now that you've judged the quality of my typing, take a look at my photos..http://www.photo.net/photos/GlenBarrington..

Comment #1

First let me say that you have asked a reasonable question and it is not the first time it has been asked..

I noticed this is your first post to Dpreview. The one question you do not want to ask on Dpreview is: "Cannon vs Nikon" which is best? It has been known to start a war of words. LOL.

I suggest you read the reviews on Dpreview and go to a camera shop and hold several cameras in your hands to see which ones feel right. Turn each camera on and look through the viewfinder at the information displayed. Note, you may have to bring your own card..

Consider what the subject of your pictures is going to be. Landscape, action, indoor or outdoor, portrait, or all of these. What do the reviews say in regards to features you would use for your type of pictures..

Keep a list of question you have in regards to the different cameras and periodically post them here..

FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind...

Comment #2

If both cost same, than D40x, as it has AF assist lamp, spot meter, ISO3200 option. But wait.. xTi has dust-reduction. So if you forsee yourself owning lot of lenses than xTi.

Rose11597 wrote:.

I am currently looking for a new camera. I am debating between thenikon d40x and cannon xti. Both seem to be good camera's and I haveheard alot of good things about them. I have read many reviews butstill wnat to get some advice...This will be my first digital SLR. Iwould appreciate any help thanks!!!.

Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612..

Comment #3

Get the Nikon. At least you can spell it correctly! But "canon" is easier to pronounce..."nikon" is pronounced "knee-con"... .

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #4

Canon and nikon user should not be married  - somebody on the DPR phorum said it.....

Go and try what fits to you.Why does he do it?..

Comment #5

The differences in features are less important than learning how to use whichever camera happens to be in your hands...

Comment #6

I asked the question to get some advice not to critique my spelling.......Thanks for those who answered my question...

Comment #7

That was good natured and gentle ribbing by the standards of this forum. You need to understand this is a jungle that will eat you alive if you show any weakness.STOP Global Stasis! Change is good!.

Now that you've judged the quality of my typing, take a look at my photos..http://www.photo.net/photos/GlenBarrington..

Comment #8

Read about the Nikon's F-Mount..

Http://forums.dpreview.com/...ums/readflat.asp?forum=1002&thread=25603876.

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Comment #9

Are you set on Canon or Nikon? If not, the Olympus E-410 and E-510 are capable options. Very nice kit lenes, sensor IS (E510), complete dust solution, Live view..

Don't skimp on the lenses. The XTi in particular almost requires an upgrade of lenses right from the start. Put some money into lenses, and it's a very good camera. I haven't used the Nikon kit lenses, so I can't comment on those, but I can say that the Oly kit lenses are golden for their price range. They will last you..

Cheers, Seth.

What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?.

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Comment #10

Glen Barrington wrote:.

That was good natured and gentle ribbing by the standards of thisforum. You need to understand this is a jungle that will eat youalive if you show any weakness..

Thanks, Glen. I was trying for humor..

Rose, when you see the winkey-face at the end, it means I'm just having fun. I mean, if you had mis-spelled it once, I would have passed...but you consistently added a second "n" each time. .

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #11

I had to make this choice a while ago too, and just like me, you seemed to have ruled out the other brands and are now deciding on the two bigger brands. Not a bad thing if you ask me, but opinions on that will strongly differ..

I eventually chose Nikon, but I will try to answer your question unbiased..

Go to the store, and take both cameras in your hands. Don't be afraid to hang around there for an hour and take a few shots. See which camera feels best in your hands. Look at where the buttons are you will need most while shooting (aperture and shutter speed dials, ae-lock, exposure compensation ...) and see if they are easy to reach for you with your hands in a normal position on the camera. And maybe give the D80 a try if an extra 3-400 cash doesnt bother you and/or if you don't have small hands. If you have big hands, it might feel better to you, if not, the d40 wil probably feel btter than the D80..

What kind of subjects are you interested in taking pictures of?That will for a large part dedicate your lens needs..

Ask the staff at the shop what lenses you will need for your kind of photography, and which they recommend for that of the two brands. But as a starter you may not really know that and find out later along the road ....

That's as far as the unbiased advice goes, now let me tell you what I chose for.I started out with a D80 and 18-200VR lens, and never regretted it..

The body feels really good in my hands, the buttons are in a comfortable place (although for the way I am shooting now, the button placement of the D200/300 seems better to me, but thats more pricier still, and is not really a camera to start with). I really love the lens too, it's a relatively light lens for it's huge range, so it's a walk-around do-it-all lens of good quality (nothing like the wide-aperture pro lenses though) and it has VRII which makes it easier to shoot without a tripod at somewhat longer shutter speeds..

Another option for the D40 might be one of the double zoom kits, which give you 18-200 divided in 2 lenses, a 18-55 and a 55-200. Advantage: lighter and smaller lenses; disadvantage (for a starter): 2 lenses..

Canon will have some nice kit lenses too, but as far as I know they don't have a huge zoom like the 18-200VR that is usefull for the 400d. (they have a 28-300 which is more usefull on a fullframe sensor, is a lot bigger and heavier and a lot more expensive) The 17-85IS kit might be the best option to start with there, it gives you a good and usefull zoom range and vibration reduction..

Love my D80 ..

Comment #12

Just looking for a camera. I do not have experience with either brand...I was hoping you experts would give me your experience with the 2 camera's Thanks rose..

Comment #13

The 75-200 lens and 18-55 come as a kit in costco for 939 with a bag and memory cards......

Comment #14

I went with Nikon(the d40) and have never regretted it. My choice was based a lot on cost but I've never felt that the Nikon would be a cheap camera. The kit lens is great on the D40, better than most other kit lenses..

I'm sure the Canon is a great camera too and whichever you choose I don't think you will be disappointed..

Remember to look at both cameras in a store, looking at what lenses you might need in the future is a good thing as well. The D40 is a bit limited in this aspect as it can only use lenses with a build in focus motor, for me this was not an issue tho..

If you want to see some images taken with the D40 and kit lens you can visit my flickr(link below).

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Http://www.flickr.com/photos/14807929@N05..

Comment #15

Rose:.

Our experience is that both cameras have exceptional capabilities given those of the photographer. You absolutely cannot go wrong with Canon or Nikon, and much the same can be said for Pentax (and possibly also Olympus and Sony). When you buy a camera body, you are buying into a system. Therefore, you need to think in terms of the lenses you might need in the future. Many of the lenses cost more than the camera bodies, and you will keep your lenses over the long-term whereas you may eventually move up to a better camera body. So, read the reviews, handle the cameras at a shop, and consider the cameras in light of the lenses you think you may need in the future..

Jerryhttp://jchoate.zenfolio.com/..

Comment #16

I originally thought I would go with the Nikon, but in talking to several people they all have the canon and love it...I would be taking pictures of family and sporting events....this will be my first slr camera...I have no experience with either brand.....

Comment #17

Rose11597 wrote:.

I originally thought I would go with the Nikon, but in talking toseveral people they all have the canon and love it....

By all means, buy what ever they did..

If you were going to ask several people you know and trust, why bother us? Is the issue that IF you were to buy a Nikon, these people you asked would wonder why you asked their advice and then disregarded it? Do you need some answers from us re WHY someone would buy a Nikon and not a Canon?.

I would be taking pictures of family and sporting events....this will be my first slr camera...I have no experience with eitherbrand....

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #18

I have owned and/or used Nikon, Canon and Pentax dslr (Nikon D70, D40, Canon 300D, 400D plus Pentax K10) and prefer Canon myself simple because I like the way they feel in my hand and how the controls are laid out. My brother who was a lifelong Canon fan bought a Nikon D40 for the same reason. All dslr will produce excellent result once you learn how to use them correctly so go to a local shop and handle the various model and see which one feels right to you...

Comment #19

I prefer Nikon but it has nothing to with brand both companies make good and really great gear, but the D40 will not take "screw driver" or non AFS lenses the Canon will work with all EOS mount lenses..

Do a search on AFS, but the short answer is some Nikon lenses have motors in them some do not, all Nikon cameras OTHER than the D40 have AF motors in them so you can use either type of lens..

Why does it matter? everyone should own at least one really fast lens (a lens that lets in a lot of light...faster shutter speeds, lower ISO's, very narrow DOF when you want to use it in you composition (isolate subjects from back grounds).

The 50mm 1.8 (very very "fast" lenses) from Canon and Nikon are only about $100 new, but it will not AF on the D40, you will need an AFS type lens for that camera and fast AFS lenses are a lot of money..

RegardsRay.

Rose11597 wrote:.

I am currently looking for a new camera. I am debating between thenikon d40x and cannon xti. Both seem to be good camera's and I haveheard alot of good things about them. I have read many reviews butstill wnat to get some advice...This will be my first digital SLR. Iwould appreciate any help thanks!!!.

Http://www.pbase.com/ray645..

Comment #20

Go look at the photos and hold the cameras. There are differences in how the photos look and how the cameras operate. Determine what you want and the choice will be more clear...

Comment #21

I agree that the lack of AF motor in D40 is limiting. However many entry level users will never buy a second lens. I have recommended the D40 to several people if they were willing to spend the $ to get the 18-200 VR as their kit lens. Canon has no equivalent lens with this kind of quality or versatility. If you want versatility of a wide zoom range image stabilized lens, low cost, and the ability to add a cheap fast prime with autofocus, the Pentax k100D + Tamron 18-200 + 50mm shouldn't be ignored as viable option...

Comment #22

There is an 18-200 IS alternative for Canon.the new Sigma, which sells for around $550 ($200 less than the Nikon 18-200 VR)..

And, neither of these 18-200 VR/IS lenses are good sports shooters.especially indoors!.

That being said, the Rebel XTi is quicker when pressing the shutter until actually taking the photo than the D40x, so if sporting events is more important, you may find the Canon the best choice..

Both the XTi and the D40x are good cameras, but I personally don't like either..

I chose the Olympus E-510, which right now is selling for the same price or less, has better kit lenses than both the Canon and Nikon, has live view on the LCD (live view not to be used for sports shooting), in-body image stabilization (no need to spend that extra $550-$750 for the Nikon or Sigma 18-200 VR/IS lenses), and the only sensor based dust reduction that really works..

Also look at the Pentax K10D.weather sealed, heavier duty build quality (metal chasis vs all plastic on all of those mentioned thus far).a lot of camera for not much more than the cameras already mentioned here..

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

From my E-510:.

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Remember.always keep the box and everything that came in it!..

Comment #23

I forgot Sigma was upgrading 18-200 to the "OS" version, though I'm not sure if it will be in the same class as the 18-200 Nikon optically or form a stabilization standpoint. That little Nikkor really is good - 4+ stops of VR and really sharp, even wide open. I agree, neither is fast enough for indoor sports. No substitute for 70-200 2.8 type lens there. I also agree that K10D should be on everyones checkout list in the market for a sub $1000 DSLR. Really super value...

Comment #24

We have the Sigma 18-200 IS for both Nikon and Canon at our store.had them for about three weeks now..

I've sold a few of them already, but haven't really tested them out with prints..

However, looking through them on cameras, they look pretty good!.

While the Nikon 18-200 VR is a pretty good lens, it does have some soft spots in the zoom range, and, IMHO, is overpriced..

But.people that want it are willing to pay the extra for it..

So I guess that is what really matters in the long run..

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

Remember.always keep the box and everything that came in it!..

Comment #25

I was asking for people with experience and preferences about the 2 brands..Can't you just try not to be so sarcastic and try and help the people instead od being mean??? Have a Great Holiday and Thanks to all of the nice helpful people out there who answered my question......

Comment #26

I currently have an olympus... Does it have image stabilization in the body or lens?Good for sport photography? Thanks..

Comment #27

Rose11597 wrote:.

I currently have an olympus... Does it have image stabilization inthe body or lens?.

Oly moves the sensor for IS, and the sensor is in the body..

Good for sport photography? Thanks.

A dslr will have a faster response time than a digicam so it should be better for sports photography. I have an old oly E100-rs which has a pre capture feature to sorta deal with that problem, but that is the only digicam I know of that has pre capture..

The reason I said you need to rephrase your question is that while I am mainly a bird shooter I have recently started to do some sports photography, namely girls volleyball. My research has lead me to claim volleyball is the hardest sport, and maybe the hardest thing to shoot. This is due first to the bad lighting that seems to be a requirement of girls volleyball. Next the action is fast, and there is a definite advantage to confusing the opponent as to where the ball will be hit; and as a result the photographer is often confused too..

On the other hand shooting an outdoor game like children's soccer in nice sun light would be easier to shoot. But as kids get older and fields get bigger, and sometimes the games are at night sports photography gets harder..

Some folks say the prime directive of photographers is amateurs talk about bodies, pros talk about lens, and photographers talk about light..

But you really need all three to capture a good image. And some people buy a system based on available lens more than the body the lens will be mounted on..

IMHO the first thing you should do is come up with a realistic budget. I shoot my nephew playing baseball using a Canon 40d and a Canon 500/f4 on a tripod with a Canon 1d2 and Canon 70-200/2.8 lens around my neck. But that is probably a little out of your price range..

Next you should figure out as best you can how much of your shooting will be family and friends and how much will be sports, and not just like 50% family and 50% sports, but is it more important to get good family pix or good sports pix. And try and define if you will be shooting 10 year olds playing football or high school baseball players..

There are lots of other considerations that may or may not be important to you, but if you are able to answer the questions I posed you will have a much better chance of getting good advice..

Those who forget history are condemned to go to summer school...

Comment #28

Rose11597 wrote:.

I was asking for people with experience and preferences about the 2brands..Can't you just try not to be so sarcastic and try and helpthe people instead od being mean???.

Actually, I was TRYING to be sarcastic. I help lots of people. I can't help you because you ask repetitive questions and ignore advice..

Have a Great Holiday and Thanksto all of the nice helpful people out there who answered myquestion.....

Thanks. I did give you good advice....

Charlie DavisNikon 5700 & Sony R1HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/..

Comment #29

I have heard that about hte 18-200 Nikkor, and I think there must be some quality control variation with that lens. I have yet to find an aperture / focal length combination that does not provide very acceptable sharpness. Maybe if it is a very narrow focal length range that is soft that I haven't really tested. I have done a fairly exacting test at 18, 28, 50, 75, 135 and 200mm wide open as well as stopped down to 8.0 and all were approaching 50mm 1.8 or 80-200 2.8 at same focal lengths/ apertures and significantly sharper than 18-70 or 18-135 Nikkors...

Comment #30

Would this be a good lens for a wedding?..

Comment #31

Do you feel the K10 would be a good wedding camera or should I stick to the Canon 40D?..

Comment #32

Hi Rose,.

Both cameras are very good. Image quality is excellent. The Canon body performs a little better at high ISO settings (sports, concerts), but the Nikon flash system is better (events, weddings). I like the ergonomics of the Nikon cameras..

I think you should let your decision also be quided by the lens availability.If you want a standard zoom (e.g. 18-135), I would go for Nikon..

If you want affordable pro lenses, I would go for Canon (17-40 f/4 L and 70-200 f/4 L). If you want to shoot extreme wide angle, go for Canon too (the Canon 10-22 is slightly better than the Nikon 12-24, but almost half the price)..

I hope his helps..

Regards and have fun shooting,.

Fred Kamphueshttp://www.millhouse.nl/digititaltalk.html..

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