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Camera for fast moving objects (HORSES)
Hi.

I own horses and would like to buy a camera that would be able to catch them in motion, most of the time they laizily just wander about, but then when they get into action it is all very fast and outdoor.

Please could you help me in recommending what would be the best option(s) in this case. I would really like to buy something I can use in these conditions.

Thank you in advance...

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It's more a question of your technique than the camera: to capture something like a running horse you need to be able to pan the camera (move it with the moving object, so that it remains in the centre of the viewfinder) or it will be blurred..

That said, you want a camera which.

(i) allows you to choose a fast shutter speed, i.e. has some element of manual control(ii) responds quickly when you press the shutter..

Any DSLR on the market, and many of the better compacts, will do these. It all depends on how much you want to spend..

Best wishesMike..

Comment #1

First of all I would like to say that I really know little about cameras - photography (as can be seen form the question) but would like to change that.

I would like to buy something but not regret it later.

I am having a big dilema between the DSLR (I don't know anything about lenses etc.) and something like Olympus SP-560.

This probably sounds pretty bad but I would like to start off with something I can use and grow with from the start and not get disappointed at the beginning.

Thank you sooo much..

Comment #2

Get a DSLR. The shutter lag and autofocus times (and slow and imprecise zoom on top of it) are serious impediments on point-and-shoot cameras in trying to capture a moving subject. I specifically wanted to shoot race cars in action, and had found P&S inadequate (Canon S3is). Further, at higher ISO, the performance of P&S cameras falls off drastically (noise, sharpness), and high ISO may be required to stop the action..

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Horses... I remember incredible photo of horse in morning fog that Peter O'Neil shared on one website 4 years ago..

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Technically, this great image is done with DSLR camera with fast telephoto lens.This is pricy combination, but is a cost of image quality..

Most of prosumer cameras can make photos at 1/1000 sec that will stop horses in action movements..

But DSLRcameras in combination with good lenses will do it with final image quality. - You will be able to print very large images without looking at horrible digital noise..

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Dunja wrote:.

First of all I would like to say that I really know little aboutcameras - photography (as can be seen form the question) but wouldlike to change that.

I would like to buy something but not regret it later.

I am having a big dilema between the DSLR (I don't know anythingabout lenses etc.) and something like Olympus SP-560.

This probably sounds pretty bad but I would like to start off withsomething I can use and grow with from the start and not getdisappointed at the beginning.

I agree that a dSLR will be best for this - any of the basic bodies will do it so choose one which feels best to you after handling them..

The issue will be with which lens you get for your horse shots - though it's likely you will get a kit lens with the dSLR anyway which will be fine for ordinary subjects..

For the horses, to freeze motion you will need quite a fast shutter speed, maybe at least 1/500th sec or faster, 1/1000th maybe. That means not much light will get into the camera in such a short time - so you need the aperture of the lens (i.e. the opening at the front) to be as large as possible..

The size is shown as an f number, e.g. f/2.0, f/3.5, f/5 etc. The bigger the opening the smaller the f number - so you want a lens that has quite a small number in it's specifications to show a large maximum aperture, say smaller than f/3.5 ideally..

Often a zoom lens will show it's different maximum aperture at it's widest and at full zoom in it's specs, e.g. f/3.5 - f/5.6. This means it opens to f/3.5 at the wide angle but only f/5.6 at full zoom..

There is also the issue of how far away you are from the horses, i.e. how much reach you need. You may find a 50mm f/1.8 lens is OK if you're close - Nikon and Canon both do very cheap examples of that lens..

Alex.

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I just finished replying in another thread to a woman who wanted a camera for her puppy, all the same advise applies; what follows below is a copy and paste of what I just old her. I've tried to get you into quality, but at reasonable prices:.

First the camera, your needs are simple now and what you need is "simple yet quality." At first I was going to recommend a used 300D (first Digital Rebel made) but now I think you should go to the 350D. In Canada, I see them from time to time in advertisement in "flyer's" for around $250 new. Believe it or not these are still being sold new. If you buy it new, you will get the kit lens. Check out eBay for a used one. At this stage of the game in your photographic development (or lack of development) this camera will serve you well and is better than any point and shoot.



Lenses. I see a few have recommended the Canon 50 mm f1.8. This is a great lens with a so-so construction quality, but the optics are great. Here is a picture of my dog taken with this lens:.

Http://picasaweb.google.com/...SigmaLens450D27Mar08/photo#5182623335464463586.

As others have said, it is good in low light conditions when you don't want to use a flash - you don't want that harsh light look of flash. Here is a low light picture taken hand held again with the 50 mm lens:.

Http://picasaweb.google.com/...amplesOfCanon50mmF18/photo#5184476708341968690.

You will be able to get some low light "mood" shots of your dog with this lens..

Canon makes four different 70-200 lenses, they are all excellent; none of them are "cheap." But the cheapest of the four is their 70-200 f4 L lens. Get this lens after you have bought your camera, the nifty fifty and the kit lens. You might be able to pick this lens up cheaper on the used market as photographers move from the f4 version to the f2.8, or the f2.8 with IS, or the f4 with IS. The great great majority of photos taken are within the 70-200 range..

Go here for a review of the four different lenses:.

Http://the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-Lens-Reviews.aspx.

Rationally I have no hope, irrationally I believe in miracles.Joni Mitchell..

Comment #6

In broad strokes, there's there kinds of digital cameras. The point and shoot ones, the electronic viewfinder ones which look like a good 35mm camera, but smaller, and the digital single lens reflex camera, which you see in ads as the Nikon D40, Canon Digital Rebel, etc..

The first two types suffer from shutter lag, which is the pause between pressing the button and the camera going off. With running horses, his is a real problem..

So, that's one good reason for a digital single lens reflex camera..

BAK..

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Dunja wrote:.

First of all I would like to say that I really know little aboutcameras - photography (as can be seen form the question) but wouldlike to change that.

I would like to buy something but not regret it later.

I'm new to photography and I was extremely worried about getting my new DSLR (Olympus E-510) and not understanding any of it. Well... I must say that it's no where near as scary as I thought it'd be. Now... I have a long way to go before I'm capturing light that people really want to see, but I like what I've done so far. Also...

(Besides, instructions are just one man's interpretation of the facts.).

Anyway... if you want something that you can grow into, I'd highly recommend a DSLR. It'll have an auto feature just like point-and-shots so you'll have everything they have... plus you get so much more!.

I'm a new hobbyist photographer and welcome any and all feedback! Thanks!http://sylance.smugmug.com/..

Comment #8

There is only ONE camera to recommend .... the new Casio EX-F1..

60 fps ..... and it is a TIME machine .... it will take photos BEFORE you push the button ....

Dunja wrote:.

Hi.

I own horses and would like to buy a camera that would be able tocatch them in motion, most of the time they laizily just wanderabout, but then when they get into action it is all very fast andoutdoor.

Please could you help me in recommending what would be the bestoption(s) in this case. I would really like to buy something I canuse in these conditions.

Thank you in advance..

Thanks for reading .... JoePhoto.

( Do You Ever STOP to THINK and FORGET to START Again ??? )..

Comment #9

I have been taking photos of moving horses for a few years now and have found the canon 75 -300 with IS is perfect. Horses can move away from you quite quickly and if your lense is too short you will be running around a paddock trying to catch up to them. This lense will do you no favours in an indoor arena but outside it is great...

Comment #10

I'm not against DSLR. I'm suggesting this because I believe not all people would like to handle a DSLR. Some are also in tight budget..

Contrary to many believe, most P&S nowadays can do the jobs. Different from a few years back, todays P&S shutter release lag time (from focus-locked to shoot) may go as low as 0.03s and can do the job of motion panning quite good. What you need is camera with image stabilized lens (to cancel the shake in horizontal direction). A camera with fast continuous autofocus is also needed if you subject in your direction..

DSLR can do the job better and easier. The output quality is also much better. But if you are in tight budget, you still can consider P&S. But with P&S, I don't think you can do large-sized printing..

Here is some of my shots for your reference (from cheap Kodak Z812):.

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Skylark_khur wrote:.

What you need is camera with imagestabilized lens (to cancel the shake in horizontal direction)..

Oops... I have a typo mistake here.... It is to cancel the shake in perpendicular direction. When you are panning horizontally, the IS can reduce the vertical shake effect. You can solve this problem with a good tripod although...

Comment #12

Since you have stated that you want to learn more about photography and want something you can grow into, pick a fairly new modle DSLR that you like the feel of and pick a decent lens. (What constitutes decent will depend a little on which line up you choose.).

Technique is going to play a huge part in this. Panning with your subjects while keeping them composed in the frame can take some practice. Timing your shots to get the action you want is another added complication. You don't need a slow reacting camera as a hinderance too..

If possible, use lenses that use in-lens focusing motors. They focus faster and can more easily track your subjects when using continuous autofocus modes. (Also often missing on P&S cameras.).

Not a horse, but almost as fast and when she runs she does produce hoofbeats.....

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If you still want to know a great altenative within the little compact point and shoot cams there is no better alternative then the Fujifilm F50. It beats all the competition IMHO (i work in a camera shop) and even beats it's newer version the f100. Its best at capturing moving objects in low light and of course incredible in good light. Its focuses faster than any compact and takes better sequence than any compact; 12 pics at 5/sec. And add a legendary image quality to that list..

It has really good manual settings mode so you can learn and grow with it as well...

Comment #14

This is not intended as a argument against DSLR's; especially since their lens-changeability is unarguable..

BUT ... the new CASIO EX-F1 is a NEW PARADIGM in "action" photography..

You can't ignore the advantages of being able to capture 60 frames for the full second BEFORE the "peak" of action. (or half-second before, and half-second after since the eventual "best" image might not even be the exact "peak" of action it could be a moment before-or-after)..

Photogee wrote:.

If you still want to know a great altenative within the littlecompact point and shoot cams there is no better alternative then theFujifilm F50. It beats all the competition IMHO (i work in a camerashop) and even beats it's newer version the f100. Its best atcapturing moving objects in low light and of course incredible ingood light. Its focuses faster than any compact and takes bettersequence than any compact; 12 pics at 5/sec. And add a legendaryimage quality to that list.It has really good manual settings mode so you can learn and growwith it as well..

Thanks for reading .... JoePhoto.

( Do You Ever STOP to THINK and FORGET to START Again ??? )..

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