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Better to learn on P&S or jump right into DSLR
I currently have a canon S3, and I am still very new on all the features. Slowly learning them. I am starting a photography class next monday, so I am hoping to learn quite a bit from that. I have been really looking into DSLRs. My question is should I wait and learn the features of my current camera, or jump right into a starter DSLR and be forced to learn the features? What has usually worked best for you?.

I had a previous question answered about IS in starter DSLRs, and I found that the pentax k100 seems to be a good all around starter DSLR with IS. Pentax seems to have a good selection of lenses that are quite inexpensive (compared to canon and nikon for example). Would I be happy with this camera? Or would a canon rebel be good as well? How are the olympic and sony cameras? I think I would like to eventaully get a camera with in body IS, so I don't have to worry about finding lenses that have that feature..

Thanks!Regards,Stacey..

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I say jump in. The extra features of the DSLR, and the ability via greater latitude in most aspects (DOF being the most noticeable one) to experience them, will make it a more rewarding experience..

P&S cameras are designed to be simple, easy, and sharp "out of the box". You may miss the subtler benefits of SLR..

Enjoy,Greg..

Comment #1

You will learn more/faster with a DSLR. I suppose a camera like G9 with very "dslr-like" manual controls would accomplish the same thing, but certainly a camera with very easy to manipulate shutter, aperture and ISO controls will encourage you to explore and learn. The Pentax K100D offers a lot for the money and is a fine little camera...

Comment #2

Try and resist the temptation to just go out and buy a DSLR which might not be want you want..

Go and attend your classes first and find out if your current camera has all the manual settings you will be told about and will learn to use..

Talk to your class mates about their expectations and, very important, find out what type of photography you feel drawn to. It will influence your choice of equipment once you decide to buy..

Many people take great shots with fairly simple cameras whilst others, with very expensive cameras and lenses, seem unable to get a decent shot..

Try to just outgrow the possibilities of your current camera. By the time you arrive at that point you will also have a much better idea about what to buy...

Comment #3

Hi.

I'd suggest waiting a while before you plunge in..

It is easy to become obsessed with expensive kit when something simpler (and cheaper!!) will do..

Working with a P&S will help you identify the answers to some important questions, such what sort of photography are you interested in - people, landscapes, sports or macro stuff? Indoors or outdoors?.

That should guide you towards which DSLR would be better for you..

Talk to others, look at their pictures, and try out their cameras to see how they feel etc..

Good LuckAlex..

Comment #4

Alex has said it all (saving me a bit of typing)..

The class will be full of people with cameras and I doubt if you'll find one of them wants to sell you something for the commission. So it will be an easy and relaxed way to take your time and decide and handle a lot of different cameras without a salesman breathing down your neck and steering you away from the awkward questions. Also you'll hear the owners views, which can be a refreshing change....

Good luck..

Regards, David..

Comment #5

Spacey11 wrote:.

I currently have a canon S3, and I am still very new on all thefeatures. Slowly learning them. I am starting a photography classnext monday, so I am hoping to learn quite a bit from that. I havebeen really looking into DSLRs. My question is should I wait andlearn the features of my current camera, or jump right into a starterDSLR and be forced to learn the features? What has usually workedbest for you?.

If you're interested in what a DSLR is capable of, then there's nothing like learning hands on. Hopefully with your S3 you kind of already have an idea of what you like to shoot and what you don't. That knowledge will help you when you decide to purchase a DSLR..

The features of a camera works it's way into your shooting the more you use it. Remember, you can always start your using a DSLR in Program mode with JPEG and work your way to Manual mode with RAW. You'll find what works best for you. I keep my DSLR to my desired settings and my compact camera on Auto so others can use it too..

I had a previous question answered about IS in starter DSLRs, and Ifound that the pentax k100 seems to be a good all around starter DSLRwith IS. Pentax seems to have a good selection of lenses that arequite inexpensive (compared to canon and nikon for example). Would Ibe happy with this camera? Or would a canon rebel be good as well?How are the olympic and sony cameras? I think I would like toeventaully get a camera with in body IS, so I don't have to worryabout finding lenses that have that feature..

I went with Pentax because it was the most bang for your buck. It's not as fun if you have a DSLR with only one lens because your stuck in a system that you can't afford. As for Canon, Pentax, Sony, Olympus ... they're all good. You'll get great pictures regardless of what you choose. Just remember that no matter what brand you buy into, the better-performing glass will always be more expensive...

Comment #6

I can't believe no one has mentioned the fact that those lenses he previously used will work just fine on a modern Canon dslr. I suggest that he get a Canon 30D body (they are currently on sale). A 30D is fairly large and will be easy to handle. He already understands Canon, so the learning process would be less than if he bought something different. Finally, the 30D takes better photos than any other camera mentioned in low light or in many other specialized situations..

Jerryhttp://jchoate.zenfolio.com/..

Comment #7

Canon S3.

Image control:Zoom outZoom 100%Zoom inExpand AllOpen in new window.

Not interchangeable lens camera, no lenses to use on a 30D..

I think the best way to learn the basics is with a old full manual 35mm SLR, just like in my high school photography class all those years ago...

Comment #8

BA baracus wrote:.

Canon S3.

Image control:Zoom outZoom 100%Zoom inExpand AllOpen in new window.

Not interchangeable lens camera, no lenses to use on a 30D..

Good point. I was letting him run with his Pentax suggestion since getting into a "which DSLR" debate seemed anathema to the point at hand..

I think the best way to learn the basics is with a old full manual35mm SLR, just like in my high school photography class all thoseyears ago..

Well, here I disagree. Would you also suggest he learn computers by starting on a manual typewriter? I doubt it..

I think you learn 100x as fast on digital with it's instant feedback. Developing film is way too slow and costly, but obviously a necessary evil at the time with no other options..

Conversely, I think film should be the ADVANCED class, and/or used for the final. Turn in your roll to be developed by the instructor. No cheating possible. .

Greg..

Comment #9

The K100D is a good body and easy to use. You may never out grow it but may get the urge to buy more lenses. You may consider the K100D Super, since it has better AS and is compatible with the SDM lenses. 6MP is more than adequate and will even make decent posters. On the other hand, that sensor is very low in noise and has an incredible latitude...

Comment #10

Wow thank you all for the responses! You have given me some great insight to think over..

I think what I will end up doing is waiting for the first class and see exactly what I got myself in for. I know someone who is taking the class with me and they have a DSLR (rebel), so I am hoping I won't be out of place with my little point and shoot .

I have heard great things about the pentax. It has come highly rated since I am wanting the inbody IS. Does the canon rebel come with inbody IS? I have been reading reviews...and cannot find the answer to that..

Thanks so much!!Regards,Stacey..

Comment #11

Spacey11 wrote:I know someone who is taking.

The class with me and they have a DSLR (rebel), so I am hoping Iwon't be out of place with my little point and shoot .

LOL..depends on the class. If it's Digital Photography 101, I'd say you'd be in good company. If it's more advanced, yes...the snickers may be quite audible. .

I have heard great things about the pentax. It has come highly ratedsince I am wanting the inbody IS. Does the canon rebel come withinbody IS? I have been reading reviews...and cannot find the answerto that..

Nope, only the Pentax (and Oly?) and the Sony/Minolta cameras use in-body stabilization. Canon and Nikon use lens-based IS from their film days when moving a sheet of film (although investigated) never obviously panned out..

Greg..

Comment #12

Spacey11 wrote:.

Wow thank you all for the responses! You have given me some greatinsight to think over..

I think what I will end up doing is waiting for the first class andsee exactly what I got myself in for. I know someone who is takingthe class with me and they have a DSLR (rebel), so I am hoping Iwon't be out of place with my little point and shoot .

You won't be out of place with your S3. It has Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority and Manual. You can adjust the ISO as well so what else is going to affect the image (i"ll wait now for the obvious comments regarding sensor size etc.).

I have heard great things about the pentax. It has come highly ratedsince I am wanting the inbody IS. Does the canon rebel come withinbody IS? I have been reading reviews...and cannot find the answerto that..

There are a LOT of DSLRs that come with IS. It's good but it's not the bee's knees. E.g. a Minolta or Sony as they are now. Every single lens you buy for that is IS'd..

Thanks so much!!.

You're welcome. Just don't jump too soon for a DSLR. Whatever you do, get hold of one first - there's nothing as useful as getting a feel for the equipment...

Comment #13

Spacey11 wrote:.

I currently have a canon S3, and I am still very new on all thefeatures. Slowly learning them. I am starting a photography classnext monday, so I am hoping to learn quite a bit from that. I havebeen really looking into DSLRs. My question is should I wait andlearn the features of my current camera, or jump right into a starterDSLR and be forced to learn the features? What has usually workedbest for you?.

I had a previous question answered about IS in starter DSLRs, and Ifound that the pentax k100 seems to be a good all around starter DSLRwith IS. Pentax seems to have a good selection of lenses that arequite inexpensive (compared to canon and nikon for example). Would Ibe happy with this camera? Or would a canon rebel be good as well?How are the olympic and sony cameras? I think I would like toeventaully get a camera with in body IS, so I don't have to worryabout finding lenses that have that feature..

Thanks!Regards,Stacey.

I have a Canon A640 and a Pentax K100d..

I believe the first thing a beginner should do is learn about light and composition. You can do that with the S3 or an entry level SLR. That said, when your class explores depth of field you'll be hard pressed to make a small sensor camera such as the S3 perform like a SLR..

At least to me the K100d feels better in my hands and is much simpler and quicker to get at the controls I need. It's a very capable camera, more so than the price suggests..

I like your thought of going to the first class and talking to the instructor before buying anything new..

Have fun with the class. Make friends and some great photo's...

Comment #14

Sorry about my post in this thread. I posted it in the wrong thread, so it made no sense..

Jerryhttp://jchoate.zenfolio.com/..

Comment #15

Mrxdimension wrote:.

I have a Canon A640 and a Pentax K100d..

I believe the first thing a beginner should do is learn about lightand composition. You can do that with the S3 or an entry level SLR.That said, when your class explores depth of field you'll be hardpressed to make a small sensor camera such as the S3 perform like aSLR..

At least to me the K100d feels better in my hands and is much simplerand quicker to get at the controls I need. It's a very capablecamera, more so than the price suggests..

I like your thought of going to the first class and talking to theinstructor before buying anything new..

Have fun with the class. Make friends and some great photo's..

I second "have fun with the class" and think that having students use different types of cameras would be both more fun and more informative..

I would think that a good instructor would incorporate the characteristics of the S3 into his/her discussions. It should make for some interesting comparisons, both positive and negative, with DSLRs..

I'm responding from my experience as a teacher (computer science professor) for 21 years. I always had students in my classes who did things differently and knew some aspects of the subject better than I did. I enjoyed bringing their experiences into the classroom discussions, and I think we all learned more that way...

Comment #16

Gregory King wrote:.

Well, here I disagree. Would you also suggest he learn computers bystarting on a manual typewriter? I doubt it..

I think you learn 100x as fast on digital with it's instant feedback.Developing film is way too slow and costly, but obviously a necessaryevil at the time with no other options..

Conversely, I think film should be the ADVANCED class, and/or usedfor the final. Turn in your roll to be developed by the instructor.No cheating possible. .

Greg.

The instant feed back is certainly a great learning aid no doubt. But with an old SLR you have basically have aperture, shutter and focus to learn. You have no menu systems, metering systems, or auto focus systems to learn. You learn the basics and can work from there. You have to be a deliberate in your actions, I dunno I guess I just really enjoy those old 35mm SLRs sometimes...

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