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Best USED DSLR Camera - Nikon or others
Hi photo lovers,.

I'm a complete noob when it comes to photography. I hate my P&S camera and I've wanted to upgrade but I'm on a budget. For some reason I like Nikon as a brand, so I've been comparing Nikons only so far. I am looking for some advice on a budget digital SLR and I'm stuck on these questions/conclusions..

I can't afford a D80.I can't afford most new Nikon Cameras.Budget ideally under $500 (but I still need a decent multi-purpose lens).

I am looking at older models (D70, D70s are my top two choices), comparing them to current entry level models D40x, E-510, Canon Rebel XT, etc..

Question:What is the better camera ? D70, D70s, D40x, D50, E-510, Canons... ? .

I know the D40x lacks a AF Motor and requires different lenses - is this an issue for a new SLR users who owns no lenses ? Is this the future ? .

The D40x lacks an upper LCD screen but sports 10MP instead of 6MP compared to the last generation D70 - does this make a difference for a non-pro ? .

Picture Quality + Usability + Re-Sale value are my three top priorities. If re-sale value is important, a newer model would be better I would assume..

I am using the camera for these purposes: Close up Macro Shots and General purpose Portraits, and maybe once in a while - landscape. No sports..

Which leads me to another question regarding lenses. I don't know anything about them except that I am thinking of a 18-70mm F/2 or better? Still lots to learn here, but if it can serve Macro and General Purpose shots with great clarity under normal/low light conditions, I will be a happy man !.

Thank you so much !.

Ken..

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A 18-70mm f2 would surely be more than your entire budget if one were to exist..

10mp vs 6mp- Do you really need more than 6mp? How big do you plan on printing? You can crop more with a 10mp image but you have larger file sizes and noise is slightly more prevalent..

You could get a D40 with a 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 for under $500 new and avoid buying potentially problematic used gear, a Canon 350D (rebel XT), or Pentax K100 are not much more either..

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Comment #1

You're probably right about the lens ! I just made that up... .

What problems would one have with USED gear ?

Comment #2

My camera I bought used. It only had 64 pictures taken when I got it. If you buy used go to a store or a friend who is selling, somewhere that you could get your money back if something were to be wrong, deal someone who has a good reputation to protect. There's a lot of scams out there. Its hard to know if you are buying something that has been used beyond it's life expectency. Unlike say a car, you know the car has 200,000 miles, You really don't know too easy with a camera how used it is.



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Kenmasters wrote:.

You're probably right about the lens ! I just made that up... .

What problems would one have with USED gear ? .

How many shutter acctuations? How many left?.

Who know how heavily a camera has been used or how badly treated?.

My Pentax Ist*D works well for me...I dropped it the first day I got it from around 3 to 4 feet on to a hard road like surface and it has been to a lot of places and had a lot of heavy use since in all kinds of conditions..from rain to mid winter nights in the bush and hot Aussie summers (its fine except the built in flash does not work and has not since I dropped it). Someone elses may have sat in a cupboard for 3 years..

Unless you need the specific performance of a particular camera, or are sure of it's origins, I would opt for a new one. To me the only reason to go second hand is to get a specific camera or to get a higher class of camera you can not other wise afford.having said that there are a LOT of bargains around second hand at the moment..

I would opt for a cheaper new camera and better lens. Though from time to time I have started thinking about getting a pro grade older camera myself..

Neil..

Comment #4

Kenmasters wrote:.

Hi photo lovers,.

I'm a complete noob when it comes to photography. I hate my P&Scamera and I've wanted to upgrade but I'm on a budget. For somereason I like Nikon as a brand, so I've been comparing Nikons only sofar. I am looking for some advice on a budget digital SLR and I'mstuck on these questions/conclusions..

I can't afford a D80.I can't afford most new Nikon Cameras.Budget ideally under $500 (but I still need a decent multi-purpose lens).

I am looking at older models (D70, D70s are my top two choices),comparing them to current entry level models D40x, E-510, Canon RebelXT, etc..

Question:What is the better camera ? D70, D70s, D40x, D50, E-510, Canons... ? .

I know the D40x lacks a AF Motor and requires different lenses - isthis an issue for a new SLR users who owns no lenses ? Is this thefuture ? .

The D40x lacks an upper LCD screen but sports 10MP instead of 6MPcompared to the last generation D70 - does this make a difference fora non-pro ? .

Picture Quality + Usability + Re-Sale value are my three toppriorities. If re-sale value is important, a newer model would bebetter I would assume..

I am using the camera for these purposes: Close up Macro Shots andGeneral purpose Portraits, and maybe once in a while - landscape. Nosports..

Which leads me to another question regarding lenses. I don't knowanything about them except that I am thinking of a 18-70mm F/2 orbetter? Still lots to learn here, but if it can serve Macro andGeneral Purpose shots with great clarity under normal/low lightconditions, I will be a happy man !.

Thank you so much !.

Ken.

Used, your budget range is going to probably land you square in the land of the D70, older Canon Rebel or Olympus E500, pretty much all used. So don't count on resale value..

Using KEH.com as the upper benchmark for used equipment prices (also a good place to buy), a used Rebel XT is in the $350 range, Nikon D70 in the $365 range and E-500 in the $300 range..

Any of those leaves you in the $150 to $200 range to buy a lens. There are way too many options to even try and go into that. And, you're asking a lot out of one lens macro, portraits and landscape..

Quite frankly, unless you got a better deal than that from someone you trust, it'd be silly to buy used..

For new gear, using B&H, bhphotovideo.com as an example, a new Rebel XT with an 18-55 kit lens goes for $470; a D40 with an 18-55 goes for $475 and and Olympus E-Volt 410 with a 14-42 goes for $480..

In theory all three kit lenses can be used for your above stated purposes..

Dp review has full reviews on those cameras here:.

Http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos350d/.

Http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40/.

Http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse410/.

Cruise the forums and see what people say. I obviously have a Nikon preference. But if you're starting from scratch, you may want to take a long look at the Olympus. It's the newest technology of the bunch..

Good luck and shop around carefully. Prices MAY dip a little bit more as inventories are cleared for new models..

'Nice pen, bet you write good stories with it.'..

Comment #5

Kenmasters wrote:.

I know the D40x lacks a AF Motor and requires different lenses - isthis an issue for a new SLR users who owns no lenses ? Is this thefuture ? .

Probably. But at present, the lens choice is somewhat limited. And if you are on a budget, you may want to consider some cheap fast aftermarket primes, which should function fairly well on a D70 but not provide autofocus on a D40..

The D40x lacks an upper LCD screen but sports 10MP instead of 6MPcompared to the last generation D70 - does this make a difference fora non-pro ? .

Yes and no. The only area I can think of where you would really need 10mp is multi-page magazine adspreads, and as a non-pro, you are not likely to do those. On the other hand, a 10mp photo offers more leeway in terms of cropping if you screw up the composition at the time of capture. Be aware though that the D70 has a weak anti-aliasing filter, and therefore captures more detail than other 6mp cameras so you might not gain much by going the 10mp route anyway..

Picture Quality + Usability + Re-Sale value are my three toppriorities. If re-sale value is important, a newer model would bebetter I would assume..

Umm, you had best forget about re-sale value for d-SLR bodies. Lenses often maintain their price but bodies do not..

I am using the camera for these purposes: Close up Macro Shots andGeneral purpose Portraits, and maybe once in a while - landscape. Nosports..

Which leads me to another question regarding lenses. I don't knowanything about them except that I am thinking of a 18-70mm F/2 orbetter?.

Nikon does not have an f/2 zoom. Neither does any SLR manufacturer except Olympus. They already have a 35-100mm f/2 and will shortly release a 14-35mm f/2, but they are pricey and might be overkill..

Still lots to learn here, but if it can serve Macro andGeneral Purpose shots with great clarity under normal/low lightconditions, I will be a happy man !.

The Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8D AF is a good macro lens that doubles as a portrait lens on a Nikon body with a DX sized sensor, if you decide to stick with Nikon. Autofocus won't work on a D40 or D40X so get a D70 or perhaps a D50. Or buy the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR that should be usable on the D40 and D40X too, though be aware that it is double the price of the other lens...

Comment #6

Thank you all for your suggestions. I will continue looking and it'll probably come down to cost, the cheaper the body the more money I can put into a lens...

Comment #7

The D70s beats the D70, and the difference matters..

I think a Canon XT beats a Nikon D70s; that's sort of why why I bought the Canon instread of the Nikon. The other reasons was to share euqipment with a partner..

6MP vs 10MP. Simplifyingthings, the more megapixels the bigger the print, but 6MP will give you excellent 11 x 14 prints. As far as computer screen images go, you'll never notice a difference between 6 and 10..

New vs used; Digital cameras are sensitive electronic devices, and, like televisions, the get better and cost less. So unless there'sa big saving, buy new..

BAK..

Comment #8

Konica Minolta 5D..

6mp amazing low light performanceStablized sensor so budget lenses get stablizationFeatures that Canon and Nikon sometimes leave off the lower end cameras..

Built in wireless flash controlAuto bracketingSport metering.

I have had one for two years.. will be selling mine soon now that I have upgraded.. but it has taken some wonderful images in the last two years.Get a MACK user camera warranty as insurance on any used camera and have fun.Ken - Happy A700 Ownerhttp://www.cascadephotoworks.com..

Comment #9

Kenmasters wrote:.

Thank you all for your suggestions. I will continue looking andit'll probably come down to cost, the cheaper the body the more moneyi can put into a lens..

I am a newbie to DSLRs also and bought a used Canon Rebel XT 350D with 18-55 kit lens. The reason why I chose this over the Nikons is the AF motor built into the body and the wide range and better price of glass. Price was a factor for me also and I have placed orders for 50MM f/1.8 and 18-55MM IS. I also purchased a used 420EX flash. I plan to sell the original 18-55 kit lens (hope to get $40-60). I feel these 2 lenses will work for what I want to do (kids, family photos, portraits, vacations).

Good luck...

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